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I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I was not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and publish it for all to use. Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements of it (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how this can be implemented with Ofbiz. I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail what the different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what the correct syntax is. If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we take it form there. Thanks, Wolfgang |
Hello Wolfgang,
This links [1][2] may help you. [1] http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/SEO-Optimizer-td4725734.html [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce - Best Regards, Swapnil M Mane, ofbiz.apache.org On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < [hidden email]> wrote: > Good day, > > I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I was > not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and publish > it for all to use. > Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements of it > (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how this > can be implemented with Ofbiz. > I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail what the > different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what the > correct syntax is. > If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we take > it form there. > > Thanks, Wolfgang > |
Hi Wolfgang,
As mentioned in my recent email on a separate thread, the link demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog should be demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog (A dot should be between, demo-trunk and ofbiz word) P.S. Please include user mailing list in reply, in this way the wider audience will be available to help you :-) Best Regards, Swapnil M Mane, ofbiz.apache.org On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:20 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < [hidden email]> wrote: > Thank you Swapnil. > > I went through the document 'Search Engine Optiomization, SEO in > ecommerce' and also through thread 'SEO Optimizer' > Most of the links from the Jabber thread don't work (e.g. > https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductContent?productId=GZ-2644 > ) > And the text from the Cookbook - Howto is very generic. > SEO is much more than keywords. > > Again, if there is somebody that is willing to explain on a field level > Ofbiz, I will write the manual. > I don't think the time required for this is much. > > Wolfgang > > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:19 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hello Wolfgang, >> >> This links [1][2] may help you. >> >> [1] http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/SEO-Optimizer-td4725734.html >> [2] >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce >> >> >> - Best Regards, >> Swapnil M Mane, >> ofbiz.apache.org >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Good day, >>> >>> I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I was >>> not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and publish >>> it for all to use. >>> Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements of >>> it >>> (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how >>> this >>> can be implemented with Ofbiz. >>> I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail what >>> the >>> different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what the >>> correct syntax is. >>> If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we >>> take >>> it form there. >>> >>> Thanks, Wolfgang >>> >> > > -- > > Wolfgang Rauchholz > > > > |
*Screen “Content”, tab in Product Maintenance*
Are the list of fields underneath metatags that get added to the HTML code of e-commerce page? - *Page Title: *Example: <title>Tiny Gizmo : OFBiz E-Commerce Store </title>” - *Description*:Example: <meta name="description" content="The smallest gizmo in town."/> * Description Long: *Example: <div id="long-description"> <div>This gizmo is very small and runs on solar power.</div> <div></div> - *Image Alt Text – Detail/Large/Medium/Small: *Example:<img src=” http://example.com/foto.jpg” alt=”Tiny-Gizmo” /> * Alternative URL*: what exactly is it and what is the correct syntax? I like to re-write ecomseo URLs, can I do this in standard? Example: Standard ofbiz creates the following URL: https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecomseo/product/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html How can I use the system to create the following URL? https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/<category name>/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html *Screen “Keywords”, tab in Product Maintenance* What are keywords being used for? What is the difference to Meta Keywords from Content Tab of the Part Number? - *Field: **Keyword Type Id: *what is the difference between “Tag” and “Keyword”? *Relevancy Weight*: what is this field being used for? *Questions:* - How can I create H1 – H6 meta tags? - How can I add image long description in Ofbiz? Example: <img src=”http://example.com/parque-cientifico-tecnologico-albacete.jpg” alt=”Longtext=”http://example.com/<text>.html” /> - Does ofbiz has capability to create sitemmap.xml/.html file? - How can I create canonical URLs in Ofbiz? Example: <link rel=”canonical” href=http://www.<text>.html/> - How can I define in Ofbiz featured HTML snippets to support better search by voice? Thanks,Wolfgang On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:52 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Wolfgang, > > As mentioned in my recent email on a separate thread, > the link demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog should be > demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog (A dot should be between, demo-trunk > and ofbiz word) > > P.S. Please include user mailing list in reply, in this way the wider > audience will be available to help you :-) > > > Best Regards, > Swapnil M Mane, > ofbiz.apache.org > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:20 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Thank you Swapnil. >> >> I went through the document 'Search Engine Optiomization, SEO in >> ecommerce' and also through thread 'SEO Optimizer' >> Most of the links from the Jabber thread don't work (e.g. >> https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductContent?productId=GZ-2644 >> ) >> And the text from the Cookbook - Howto is very generic. >> SEO is much more than keywords. >> >> Again, if there is somebody that is willing to explain on a field level >> Ofbiz, I will write the manual. >> I don't think the time required for this is much. >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:19 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Wolfgang, >>> >>> This links [1][2] may help you. >>> >>> [1] http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/SEO-Optimizer-td4725734.html >>> [2] >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce >>> >>> >>> - Best Regards, >>> Swapnil M Mane, >>> ofbiz.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Good day, >>>> >>>> I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I was >>>> not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and >>>> publish >>>> it for all to use. >>>> Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements >>>> of it >>>> (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how >>>> this >>>> can be implemented with Ofbiz. >>>> I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail what >>>> the >>>> different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what the >>>> correct syntax is. >>>> If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we >>>> take >>>> it form there. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Wolfgang >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Wolfgang Rauchholz >> >> >> >> -- Wolfgang Rauchholz |
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Did you check ecomseo? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce Jacques Le 17/07/2019 à 13:41, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz a écrit : > *Screen “Content”, tab in Product Maintenance* > > Are the list of fields underneath metatags that get added to the HTML code > of e-commerce page? > > > - *Page Title: *Example: <title>Tiny Gizmo : OFBiz E-Commerce Store > </title>” > - *Description*:Example: <meta name="description" content="The smallest > gizmo in town."/> > * Description Long: *Example: > <div id="long-description"> > <div>This gizmo is very small and runs on solar power.</div> > <div></div> > - *Image Alt Text – Detail/Large/Medium/Small: *Example:<img src=” > http://example.com/foto.jpg” alt=”Tiny-Gizmo” /> > * Alternative URL*: what exactly is it and what is the correct syntax? > I like to re-write ecomseo URLs, can I do this in standard? > Example: Standard ofbiz creates the following URL: > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecomseo/product/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html > How can I use the system to create the following URL? > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/<category > name>/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html > > *Screen “Keywords”, tab in Product Maintenance* > > What are keywords being used for? > > What is the difference to Meta Keywords from Content Tab of the Part Number? > > - *Field: **Keyword Type Id: *what is the difference between “Tag” and > “Keyword”? > *Relevancy Weight*: what is this field being used for? > > *Questions:* > > - How can I create H1 – H6 meta tags? > - How can I add image long description in Ofbiz? Example: > <img src=”http://example.com/parque-cientifico-tecnologico-albacete.jpg” > alt=”Longtext=”http://example.com/<text>.html” /> > - Does ofbiz has capability to create sitemmap.xml/.html file? > - How can I create canonical URLs in Ofbiz? Example: <link > rel=”canonical” href=http://www.<text>.html/> > - How can I define in Ofbiz featured HTML snippets to support better > search by voice? > > > Thanks,Wolfgang > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:52 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Wolfgang, >> >> As mentioned in my recent email on a separate thread, >> the link demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog should be >> demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog (A dot should be between, demo-trunk >> and ofbiz word) >> >> P.S. Please include user mailing list in reply, in this way the wider >> audience will be available to help you :-) >> >> >> Best Regards, >> Swapnil M Mane, >> ofbiz.apache.org >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:20 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Swapnil. >>> >>> I went through the document 'Search Engine Optiomization, SEO in >>> ecommerce' and also through thread 'SEO Optimizer' >>> Most of the links from the Jabber thread don't work (e.g. >>> https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductContent?productId=GZ-2644 >>> ) >>> And the text from the Cookbook - Howto is very generic. >>> SEO is much more than keywords. >>> >>> Again, if there is somebody that is willing to explain on a field level >>> Ofbiz, I will write the manual. >>> I don't think the time required for this is much. >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:19 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Wolfgang, >>>> >>>> This links [1][2] may help you. >>>> >>>> [1] http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/SEO-Optimizer-td4725734.html >>>> [2] >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce >>>> >>>> >>>> - Best Regards, >>>> Swapnil M Mane, >>>> ofbiz.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good day, >>>>> >>>>> I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I was >>>>> not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and >>>>> publish >>>>> it for all to use. >>>>> Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements >>>>> of it >>>>> (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how >>>>> this >>>>> can be implemented with Ofbiz. >>>>> I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail what >>>>> the >>>>> different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what the >>>>> correct syntax is. >>>>> If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we >>>>> take >>>>> it form there. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Wolfgang >>>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Wolfgang Rauchholz >>> >>> >>> >>> |
I checked this link. I gives me what I copy underneath. I migh be wrong,
but I do bot consider this a user manual. that explains some comcepts and then goes down onto field level to explain at least the most relevent ones one by one. Wolfgang If Search Engine Optimisation <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization> has no interest on the backend side, because the backend is most often used in an intranet, it's a main concern on the eCommerce side. In OFBiz, there are 2 ways to handle SEO on the eCommerce side of OFBiz, depending if you use the ecommerce webapp <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecommerce/control/main> or it's new SEO specialised clone ecomseo webapp <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecomseo> (since r1655803 <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1655803>) As you are probably aware, OFBiz has a pretty uncommon way of generating URLs. Most of this has to do with the fact that OFBiz uses a servlet (ControlServlet) to handle all requests. The servlet is mounted at /control, so that it won't interfere with other servlets. Though functionally valid, this has the side effect that all URLs are actually created on /control, which is neither pretty, nor good by any measures of SEO. It also means that a few 302 redirects are necessary to forward the user from / to /control/main. It also makes requests more complicated, since many forwards are necessary whenever somebody wants to move away from this implementation. If this is acceptable for the ERP backend it's less desirable for an eCommerce frontend. This is what you get with the ecommerce webapp <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecommerce/control/main>. On the other hand the SEO specialised ecomseo webapp <https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecomseo> offers you more: - Removal of /control out of all the urls - SEO-friendly URLS - Configurable product/category and other URLs - Frontpage mapping from /main to / So before implementing your eCommerce application be sure to compare this 2 ways of doing things... On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:48 PM Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Wolfgang, > > Did you check ecomseo? > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce > > Jacques > > Le 17/07/2019 à 13:41, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz a écrit : > > *Screen “Content”, tab in Product Maintenance* > > > > Are the list of fields underneath metatags that get added to the HTML > code > > of e-commerce page? > > > > > > - *Page Title: *Example: <title>Tiny Gizmo : OFBiz E-Commerce Store > > </title>” > > - *Description*:Example: <meta name="description" content="The > smallest > > gizmo in town."/> > > * Description Long: *Example: > > <div id="long-description"> > > <div>This gizmo is very small and runs on solar power.</div> > > <div></div> > > - *Image Alt Text – Detail/Large/Medium/Small: *Example:<img src=” > > http://example.com/foto.jpg” alt=”Tiny-Gizmo” /> > > * Alternative URL*: what exactly is it and what is the correct syntax? > > I like to re-write ecomseo URLs, can I do this in standard? > > Example: Standard ofbiz creates the following URL: > > > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecomseo/product/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html > > How can I use the system to create the following URL? > > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/<category > > name>/Tiny-Gizmo-GZ-1000.html > > > > *Screen “Keywords”, tab in Product Maintenance* > > > > What are keywords being used for? > > > > What is the difference to Meta Keywords from Content Tab of the Part > Number? > > > > - *Field: **Keyword Type Id: *what is the difference between “Tag” > and > > “Keyword”? > > *Relevancy Weight*: what is this field being used for? > > > > *Questions:* > > > > - How can I create H1 – H6 meta tags? > > - How can I add image long description in Ofbiz? Example: > > <img src=”http://example.com/parque-cientifico-tecnologico-albacete.jpg” > > alt=”Longtext=”http://example.com/<text>.html” /> > > - Does ofbiz has capability to create sitemmap.xml/.html file? > > - How can I create canonical URLs in Ofbiz? Example: <link > > rel=”canonical” href=http://www.<text>.html/> > > - How can I define in Ofbiz featured HTML snippets to support better > > search by voice? > > > > > > Thanks,Wolfgang > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:52 AM Swapnil M Mane <[hidden email] > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Wolfgang, > >> > >> As mentioned in my recent email on a separate thread, > >> the link demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog should be > >> demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog (A dot should be between, > demo-trunk > >> and ofbiz word) > >> > >> P.S. Please include user mailing list in reply, in this way the wider > >> audience will be available to help you :-) > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Swapnil M Mane, > >> ofbiz.apache.org > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:20 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < > >> [hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >>> Thank you Swapnil. > >>> > >>> I went through the document 'Search Engine Optiomization, SEO in > >>> ecommerce' and also through thread 'SEO Optimizer' > >>> Most of the links from the Jabber thread don't work (e.g. > >>> > https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductContent?productId=GZ-2644 > >>> ) > >>> And the text from the Cookbook - Howto is very generic. > >>> SEO is much more than keywords. > >>> > >>> Again, if there is somebody that is willing to explain on a field level > >>> Ofbiz, I will write the manual. > >>> I don't think the time required for this is much. > >>> > >>> Wolfgang > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:19 AM Swapnil M Mane < > [hidden email]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello Wolfgang, > >>>> > >>>> This links [1][2] may help you. > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/SEO-Optimizer-td4725734.html > >>>> [2] > >>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Search+Engine+Optimisation%2C+SEO+in+ecommerce > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> - Best Regards, > >>>> Swapnil M Mane, > >>>> ofbiz.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < > >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Good day, > >>>>> > >>>>> I was looking for a manual that explains how to do SEO with Ofbiz. I > was > >>>>> not able to find one and would like to create a manual myself and > >>>>> publish > >>>>> it for all to use. > >>>>> Manual would include a short introduction as to what SEO is, elements > >>>>> of it > >>>>> (meta descriptions, URLs, page speed, quality content, etc..) and how > >>>>> this > >>>>> can be implemented with Ofbiz. > >>>>> I will need a help with Ofbiz. I need to understand more in detail > what > >>>>> the > >>>>> different fields on catalogs, categories, parts etc, ... do and what > the > >>>>> correct syntax is. > >>>>> If there is a volunteer that can help, please send me an email and we > >>>>> take > >>>>> it form there. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, Wolfgang > >>>>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Wolfgang Rauchholz > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- Wolfgang Rauchholz |
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[hidden email]> wrote: Search Engine Optimisation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization> has no interest > on the backend side, because the backend is most often used in an > intranet, it's a main concern on the eCommerce side. > Hi all, We are compounding SEO, which is indeed much more important for public-facing ecommerce, and good URLs. I think good URLs matter for the backend too. - we should have better URLs *everywhere*. Good clear URLs are of benefit to everybody. Our users can bookmark a URL and understand what it means when they see it in the future. They can quickly navigate by modifying a URL in the address bar. Good URLs are an important part of a RESTful API ( https://restfulapi.net/resource-naming/). The word "control" in the middle of all our APIs is a technical implementation detail, and it's just noise for all our users all of the time. It's as bad as .jsp, .php3, .aspx on the end of URLs, which are, thank goodness, becoming much less common . "main" is not much better. Cheers Paul Foxworthy -- Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 2773 Cheltenham Vic 3192 Australia Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ Email: [hidden email] |
Paul, it is very important what you are saying; a user-friendly URL is
fundamental element to position better in google search and attract thus organic traffic to the site. URL has to be user-friendly, should contain key words (which not nesesarily is the product name), it should be aa far as possible to the left. Having the possibility to easily customiz/configure URL is important. Regards, Wolfgang On Sun, 2019-07-28 at 11:21 +1000, Paul Foxworthy wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 21:58, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > Search Engine Optimisation > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization> has no > > interest > > on the backend side, because the backend is most often used in an > > intranet, it's a main concern on the eCommerce side. > > > > Hi all, > > We are compounding SEO, which is indeed much more important for > public-facing ecommerce, and good URLs. I think good URLs matter for > the > backend too. - we should have better URLs *everywhere*. > > Good clear URLs are of benefit to everybody. Our users can bookmark a > URL > and understand what it means when they see it in the future. They can > quickly navigate by modifying a URL in the address bar. > > Good URLs are an important part of a RESTful API ( > https://restfulapi.net/resource-naming/). > > The word "control" in the middle of all our APIs is a technical > implementation detail, and it's just noise for all our users all of > the > time. It's as bad as .jsp, .php3, .aspx on the end of URLs, which > are, > thank goodness, becoming much less common . "main" is not much > better. > > Cheers > > Paul Foxworthy > |
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Should we not consider Paul's message and use "Good clear URLs" everywhere? Thanks Jacques Le 28/07/2019 à 03:21, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : > On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 21:58, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > Search Engine Optimisation >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization> has no interest >> on the backend side, because the backend is most often used in an >> intranet, it's a main concern on the eCommerce side. >> > Hi all, > > We are compounding SEO, which is indeed much more important for > public-facing ecommerce, and good URLs. I think good URLs matter for the > backend too. - we should have better URLs *everywhere*. > > Good clear URLs are of benefit to everybody. Our users can bookmark a URL > and understand what it means when they see it in the future. They can > quickly navigate by modifying a URL in the address bar. > > Good URLs are an important part of a RESTful API ( > https://restfulapi.net/resource-naming/). > > The word "control" in the middle of all our APIs is a technical > implementation detail, and it's just noise for all our users all of the > time. It's as bad as .jsp, .php3, .aspx on the end of URLs, which are, > thank goodness, becoming much less common . "main" is not much better. > > Cheers > > Paul Foxworthy > |
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