Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'

[Ted Byers]

Well, following stripped down instructions provided by Jason Gilmore on
searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com a little over a year ago,  I downloaded
OFBiz (from trunk using svn) and installed it on two virtual machines
running Suse Linux (v 12.1): one using KDE and one using Gnome, if that
matters.

The build process went smoothly, and took over half an hour on Suse+KDE, but
only 17 minutes on Suse+Gnome (I can't explain why and both VMs are running
on the same machine).

But on each, I started it, after the build, using "./startofbiz.sh', and the
program seems to never end (at least it never terminates and gets me back to
the command prompt).  Is it supposed to do that (i.e. go into a do-forever
loop), or did something go awry without generating any error messages.  I
would have thought that it would have started OFBiz much like the sh scripts
for Apache's httpd server just start the server and terminate; but that's
not what happened.  This holds for both virtual machines.

If I open a browser and go to
'http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main', I do get the demo store, and
that seems to work OK, although I have barely begun to explore it.

Thanks

Ted

[Adrian Crum-3]

It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.

-Adrian

On 7/29/2012 4:41 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> Well, following stripped down instructions provided by Jason Gilmore on
> searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com a little over a year ago,  I downloaded
> OFBiz (from trunk using svn) and installed it on two virtual machines
> running Suse Linux (v 12.1): one using KDE and one using Gnome, if that
> matters.
>
> The build process went smoothly, and took over half an hour on Suse+KDE, but
> only 17 minutes on Suse+Gnome (I can't explain why and both VMs are running
> on the same machine).
>
> But on each, I started it, after the build, using "./startofbiz.sh', and the
> program seems to never end (at least it never terminates and gets me back to
> the command prompt).  Is it supposed to do that (i.e. go into a do-forever
> loop), or did something go awry without generating any error messages.  I
> would have thought that it would have started OFBiz much like the sh scripts
> for Apache's httpd server just start the server and terminate; but that's
> not what happened.  This holds for both virtual machines.
>
> If I open a browser and go to
> 'http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main', I do get the demo store, and
> that seems to work OK, although I have barely begun to explore it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

[Ted Byers]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>
> It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
>
> -Adrian
>

Thanks Adrian.

So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?

Thanks

Ted

[Gil Portenseigne]

Hi,

Just do :

sh startofbiz.sh  &

Then you can exit the terminal.

To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.

Gil


Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
> >
> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
> >
> > -Adrian
> >
>
> Thanks Adrian.
>
> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

--
Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

[Ted Byers]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Portenseigne [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: July-30-12 8:28 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>
> Hi,
>
> Just do :
>
> sh startofbiz.sh  &
>
> Then you can exit the terminal.
>
> To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
>

Thanks  Gil

Cheers

Ted

[Jacques Le Roux]

rather
./sh startofbiz.sh  &
though

You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk and R12.04, else in root folder)

Jacques

From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>

> Hi,
>
> Just do :
>
> sh startofbiz.sh  &
>
> Then you can exit the terminal.
>
> To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
>
> Gil
>
>
> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>> >
>> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
>> >
>> > -Adrian
>> >
>>
>> Thanks Adrian.
>>
>> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
>> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
>> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted
>>
>
>
> --
> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>

[Ted Byers]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: July-30-12 9:18 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>
> rather
> ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
> though
>
> You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk and R12.04,
> else in root folder)
>
> Jacques
>

Thanks Jacques

I will.

Cheers

Ted

[Gil Portenseigne]

Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> rather
> ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
> though

Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
thing...  :-)

gil

>
> You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk and R12.04, else in root folder)
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just do :
> >
> > sh startofbiz.sh  &
> >
> > Then you can exit the terminal.
> >
> > To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
> >
> > Gil
> >
> >
> > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> >> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
> >> >
> >> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
> >> >
> >> > -Adrian
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thanks Adrian.
> >>
> >> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
> >> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
> >> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ted
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> >

--
Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> rather
>> ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
>> though
>
> Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
> thing...  :-)

Right Gil, I meant of course:
sh ./startofbiz.sh  &
Sorry for the typo ;o)

But anyway using rc.ofbiz* files in this case seems a better way to me (if you want automatic restart, which is a moot point)

Jacques

> gil
>
>
>>
>> You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk and R12.04, else in root folder)
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Just do :
>> >
>> > sh startofbiz.sh  &
>> >
>> > Then you can exit the terminal.
>> >
>> > To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
>> >
>> > Gil
>> >
>> >
>> > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
>> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> >> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
>> >> > To: [hidden email]
>> >> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>> >> >
>> >> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Adrian
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Adrian.
>> >>
>> >> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
>> >> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
>> >> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>> >
>
>
> --
> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>

[c.schinzer-2]

Gil,

go get some Linux basics for Server operations.

./sh will invoke a separate shell (runtime environment) for your ofbiz
instance
& will send it to background processing

Make sure, you have your logfiles under control before you start hiding
things from a console.
Basically you should keep
+ a running logfile that rolls over every day (or every x MBs), keep a
series of them --> see the log4.xml configuration for this one
+ a "session" logfile, typically this is available at
{OFBIZ_HOME}/runtim/logs/console.log

In order to read and follow these while your ofbiz instance runs, you will
need to familiarize with one of vi, cat, tail.

@Jacques: Looks like these are some "Run OFBiz in *ix environments Faq" do
we not have a basic cheat sheet in the wiki?

Regards


Carsten


2012/7/30 Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
> > rather
> > ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > though
>
> Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
> thing...  :-)
>
> gil
>
>
> >
> > You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk
> and R12.04, else in root folder)
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just do :
> > >
> > > sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > >
> > > Then you can exit the terminal.
> > >
> > > To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
> > >
> > > Gil
> > >
> > >
> > > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
> > >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > >> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > >> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about
> 'startofbiz.sh'
> > >> >
> > >> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
> > >> >
> > >> > -Adrian
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Adrian.
> > >>
> > >> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way
> to start
> > >> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and
> leaving
> > >> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Ted
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> > >
>
>
> --
> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>

[Gil Portenseigne]

Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 16:41 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

>
> But anyway using rc.ofbiz* files in this case seems a better way to me
> (if you want automatic restart, which is a moot point)
>
> Jacques


Yeah totally agree with that !

gil
--
Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

[Gil Portenseigne]

Hi

Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 16:46 +0200, Carsten Schinzer a écrit :

> Gil,
>
> go get some Linux basics for Server operations.
>
> ./sh will invoke a separate shell (runtime environment) for your ofbiz
> instance

I do not agree with that, it will try to launch a script called "sh" in
current directory...

> & will send it to background processing

agree, that was my advice ;)

>
> Make sure, you have your logfiles under control before you start hiding
> things from a console.

+1, for that uncomment/comment the last lines of startofbiz.sh (or bat
under windows) scripts...

> Basically you should keep
> + a running logfile that rolls over every day (or every x MBs), keep a
> series of them --> see the log4.xml configuration for this one
> + a "session" logfile, typically this is available at
> {OFBIZ_HOME}/runtim/logs/console.log
>
> In order to read and follow these while your ofbiz instance runs, you will
> need to familiarize with one of vi, cat, tail.
>

I'm fully familiarized with all of these tools ;) !

Regards

Gil

> @Jacques: Looks like these are some "Run OFBiz in *ix environments Faq" do
> we not have a basic cheat sheet in the wiki?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Carsten
>
>
> 2012/7/30 Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>
> > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> >
> > > rather
> > > ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > > though
> >
> > Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
> > thing...  :-)
> >
> > gil
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk
> > and R12.04, else in root folder)
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Just do :
> > > >
> > > > sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > > >
> > > > Then you can exit the terminal.
> > > >
> > > > To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
> > > >
> > > > Gil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > >> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> > > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > > >> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about
> > 'startofbiz.sh'
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Adrian
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks Adrian.
> > > >>
> > > >> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way
> > to start
> > > >> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and
> > leaving
> > > >> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Ted
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> >

--
Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Carsten Schinzer wrote:

> Gil,
>
> go get some Linux basics for Server operations.
>
> ./sh will invoke a separate shell (runtime environment) for your ofbiz
> instance
> & will send it to background processing
>
> Make sure, you have your logfiles under control before you start hiding
> things from a console.
> Basically you should keep
> + a running logfile that rolls over every day (or every x MBs), keep a
> series of them --> see the log4.xml configuration for this one
> + a "session" logfile, typically this is available at
> {OFBIZ_HOME}/runtim/logs/console.log
>
> In order to read and follow these while your ofbiz instance runs, you will
> need to familiarize with one of vi, cat, tail.
>
> @Jacques: Looks like these are some "Run OFBiz in *ix environments Faq" do
> we not have a basic cheat sheet in the wiki?

I guess you think about https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service

Jacques

> Regards
>
>
> Carsten
>
>
> 2012/7/30 Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>
>> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>>> rather
>>> ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
>>> though
>>
>> Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
>> thing...  :-)
>>
>> gil
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for trunk
>> and R12.04, else in root folder)
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just do :
>>>>
>>>> sh startofbiz.sh  &
>>>>
>>>> Then you can exit the terminal.
>>>>
>>>> To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
>>>>
>>>> Gil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>>> Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about 'startofbiz.sh'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Adrian.
>>>>>
>>>>> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a way to start
>>>>> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and leaving
>>>>> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

[c.schinzer-2]

Apologies for this one.
You are of course right with ./sh
And my mail was damn arrogant.
Blame on me.

I will check the link Jacques sent over.

2012/7/30 Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>

> Hi
>
> Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 16:46 +0200, Carsten Schinzer a écrit :
>
> > Gil,
> >
> > go get some Linux basics for Server operations.
> >
> > ./sh will invoke a separate shell (runtime environment) for your ofbiz
> > instance
>
> I do not agree with that, it will try to launch a script called "sh" in
> current directory...
>
> > & will send it to background processing
>
> agree, that was my advice ;)
>
> >
> > Make sure, you have your logfiles under control before you start hiding
> > things from a console.
>
> +1, for that uncomment/comment the last lines of startofbiz.sh (or bat
> under windows) scripts...
>
> > Basically you should keep
> > + a running logfile that rolls over every day (or every x MBs), keep a
> > series of them --> see the log4.xml configuration for this one
> > + a "session" logfile, typically this is available at
> > {OFBIZ_HOME}/runtim/logs/console.log
> >
> > In order to read and follow these while your ofbiz instance runs, you
> will
> > need to familiarize with one of vi, cat, tail.
> >
>
> I'm fully familiarized with all of these tools ;) !
>
> Regards
>
> Gil
>
>
> > @Jacques: Looks like these are some "Run OFBiz in *ix environments Faq"
> do
> > we not have a basic cheat sheet in the wiki?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Carsten
> >
> >
> > 2012/7/30 Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> >
> > > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 15:18 +0200, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > >
> > > > rather
> > > > ./sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > > > though
> > >
> > > Did you mean ./startofbiz.sh ? I do not understand the ./sh
> > > thing...  :-)
> > >
> > > gil
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You  may also have a look at rc.ofbiz* files (in tools folder for
> trunk
> > > and R12.04, else in root folder)
> > > >
> > > > Jacques
> > > >
> > > > From: "Gil Portenseigne" <[hidden email]>
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just do :
> > > > >
> > > > > sh startofbiz.sh  &
> > > > >
> > > > > Then you can exit the terminal.
> > > > >
> > > > > To stop, use the stopofbiz.sh script.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le lundi 30 juillet 2012 à 08:15 -0400, Ted Byers a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > From: Adrian Crum [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > > >> > Sent: July-29-12 9:06 PM
> > > > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Still getting started but question about
> > > 'startofbiz.sh'
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It sounds to me like you have everything working properly.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -Adrian
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks Adrian.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So this 'startofbiz.sh' is supposed to run forever?  Is there a
> way
> > > to start
> > > > >> ofbiz like a server, instead of creating a bash shell session and
> > > leaving
> > > > >> that terminal open all the time ofbiz is to run?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ted
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> > >
>
>
> --
> Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>