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Jacques Le Roux
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Hi Guys,

We have 3 problems with the tests

1. (At least) One of these 3 changes https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes- introduced a test issue in trunk
https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the data (INVOICE types)

2. Related with a framework recent change we no longer feed the HTML results https://ci.apache.org/projects/ofbiz/logs/trunk/
So it's harder to check which test/s was/were impacted by the data change (only?). The error which prevents the HTML results creation, in log is

      [java] Exception in thread "main" org.ofbiz.base.start.StartupException: Cannot start() org.ofbiz.testtools.TestRunContainer (Test run was
unsuccessful)
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:239)
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.base.start.StartupControlPanel.startStartupLoaders(StartupControlPanel.java:270)
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.base.start.StartupControlPanel.start(StartupControlPanel.java:107)
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:84)
      [java] Caused by: org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerException: Test run was unsuccessful
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.testtools.TestRunContainer.start(TestRunContainer.java:193)
      [java]     at org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:237)
      [java]     ... 3 more

Fortunately, we can get more information from https://ci.apache.org/projects/ofbiz/logs/14.12/html/ were we see which tests were impacted

3. Unfortunately I just noticed we have also an issue with tests HTML results in R15.12, this is wrong (there are currently failures/errors) and was
not updated since 2016-02-11 04:10:58.

I'll now try to confirm my assertion for the point 1. And hopefully will give you a clue about the point 2. This last issue (3) could a Buildbot issue
only. I will check that...

Jacques

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Re: Tests issues

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes- introduced a test issue in trunk
> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the data (INVOICE types)

I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)

Jacques

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Re: Tests issues

Arun Patidar-2
Hi Jacques,

I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and will
commit accordingly.

Thanks & Regards
---
Arun Patidar
Manager, Enterprise Software Development
HotWax Systems
www.hotwaxsystems.com

On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes- 
>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459
>> the culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with
>> the data (INVOICE types)
>
> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>
> Jacques
>
>

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Re: Tests issues

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Hi Arun,

As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk

But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully he will find the cause

Thanks

Jacques


Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :

> Hi Jacques,
>
> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and will
> commit accordingly.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> ---
> Arun Patidar
> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> HotWax Systems
> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>
> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes- introduced a test issue in trunk
>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the data (INVOICE types)
>>
>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Tests issues

taher
Hi Jacques,

Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will first
try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be that
far back.

Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the start
component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.

Regards,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Arun,
>
> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>
> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully he
> will find the cause
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and will
>> commit accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> ---
>> Arun Patidar
>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>> HotWax Systems
>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>
>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>
>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the
>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the
>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Tests issues

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
I agree, I have to revert things, it's the ultimate solution

BTW I got sidetracked and did not get a chance to look at the problem today

Cheers

Jacques


Le 02/06/2016 à 20:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> Hi Jacques,
>
> Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will first
> try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
> difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be that
> far back.
>
> Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
> whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the start
> component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arun,
>>
>> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>>
>> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully he
>> will find the cause
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>
>>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and will
>>> commit accordingly.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> ---
>>> Arun Patidar
>>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>>> HotWax Systems
>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the
>>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the
>>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>>
>>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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Re: Tests issues

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Oops, I mean I hate to revert things :)

Jacques


Le 02/06/2016 à 20:30, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> I agree, I have to revert things, it's the ultimate solution
>
> BTW I got sidetracked and did not get a chance to look at the problem today
>
> Cheers
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will first
>> try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
>> difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be that
>> far back.
>>
>> Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
>> whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the start
>> component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arun,
>>>
>>> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>>>
>>> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully he
>>> will find the cause
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and will
>>>> commit accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>> ---
>>>> Arun Patidar
>>>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>>>> HotWax Systems
>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459 the
>>>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with the
>>>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>>>
>>>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>

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Re: Tests issues

taher
Hi Jacques,

Ok, my investigation so far reveals the following:
- the issue definitely happens AFTER r1745351
- the issue definitely happens BEFORE r1746236 as it also crashes with the
same error on 1746228

So, I think it is not likely to have anything to do with my work on
OFBIZ-6783. At least this narrows it down to one of the commits in between.

Regards,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Oops, I mean I hate to revert things :)
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:30, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> I agree, I have to revert things, it's the ultimate solution
>>
>> BTW I got sidetracked and did not get a chance to look at the problem
>> today
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>
>>> Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will first
>>> try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
>>> difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be that
>>> far back.
>>>
>>> Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
>>> whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the start
>>> component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arun,
>>>>
>>>> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>>>>
>>>> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully
>>>> he
>>>> will find the cause
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and
>>>>> will
>>>>> commit accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Arun Patidar
>>>>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>>>>> HotWax Systems
>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Tests issues

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Hi Taher,

Took me a while to put it clearly in place, please see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7167

I will also continue to work on it, but would not be offended if you beat me on it ;)

Cheers

Jacques

Le 03/06/2016 à 09:25, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> Hi Jacques,
>
> Ok, my investigation so far reveals the following:
> - the issue definitely happens AFTER r1745351
> - the issue definitely happens BEFORE r1746236 as it also crashes with the
> same error on 1746228
>
> So, I think it is not likely to have anything to do with my work on
> OFBIZ-6783. At least this narrows it down to one of the commits in between.
>
> Regards,
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Oops, I mean I hate to revert things :)
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:30, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>>> I agree, I have to revert things, it's the ultimate solution
>>>
>>> BTW I got sidetracked and did not get a chance to look at the problem
>>> today
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will first
>>>> try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
>>>> difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be that
>>>> far back.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
>>>> whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the start
>>>> component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Arun,
>>>>> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>>>>>
>>>>> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so hopefully
>>>>> he
>>>>> will find the cause
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on ticket
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> commit accordingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Arun Patidar
>>>>>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>>>>>> HotWax Systems
>>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>>>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>>>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>>>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>

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taher
Hi Jacques,

Nice work! so it's just the issue of HTML not rendering on failed tests.
Ok, I'll jump in and try to see what's up.

Cheers

Taher Alkhateeb

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> Took me a while to put it clearly in place, please see
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7167
>
> I will also continue to work on it, but would not be offended if you beat
> me on it ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 03/06/2016 à 09:25, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> Ok, my investigation so far reveals the following:
>> - the issue definitely happens AFTER r1745351
>> - the issue definitely happens BEFORE r1746236 as it also crashes with the
>> same error on 1746228
>>
>> So, I think it is not likely to have anything to do with my work on
>> OFBIZ-6783. At least this narrows it down to one of the commits in
>> between.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Oops, I mean I hate to revert things :)
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:30, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>
>>> I agree, I have to revert things, it's the ultimate solution
>>>>
>>>> BTW I got sidetracked and did not get a chance to look at the problem
>>>> today
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 20:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> Given your feedback I'm jumping into the test on this issue. I will
>>>>> first
>>>>> try to run the tests pre r1746228 and compare that with after. If no
>>>>> difference then I will go to pre r1744107 but hopefully it won't be
>>>>> that
>>>>> far back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, I recommend we don't revert anything and instead dig out
>>>>> whatever the culprit is. There is too much work that went into the
>>>>> start
>>>>> component. I'll go full force in this direction for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Arun,
>>>>>
>>>>>> As you check by yourself this did not fix the issue
>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I see that Anurag wants now to continue to work on it, so
>>>>>> hopefully
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> will find the cause
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 07:03, Arun Patidar a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am looking into it. This should fix with the patch attached on
>>>>>>> ticket
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7124. I am testing and
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> commit accordingly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Arun Patidar
>>>>>>> Manager, Enterprise Software Development
>>>>>>> HotWax Systems
>>>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2016 10:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 01/06/2016 à 18:20, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. (At least) One of these 3 changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/759#changes-
>>>>>>>>> introduced a test issue in trunk
>>>>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk.
>>>>>>>>> Fortunately R15.12 helps use to discern it's most probably r1746459
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> culprit https://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch15.
>>>>>>>>> It could be though that it's more a test to fix than an issue with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> data (INVOICE types)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I confirm it's r1746459 (and backport related)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>