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Jacques Le Roux

Time in header

Administrator

I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make sense to have this here ?
Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this information in some taskbar anyway.

Jacques

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

+1 to remove it

2009/2/1 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make sense to
> have this here ?
> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
> information in some taskbar anyway.
>
> Jacques

Bilgin Ibryam

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

+ 1

Bilgin

On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
> sense to have this here ?
> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
> information in some taskbar anyway.
>
> Jacques

Ashish Vijaywargiya-5

Re: Time in header

+1 to remove it.

--
Ashish

----- "Bilgin Ibryam" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> + 1
>
> Bilgin
>
> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
> > I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
> > sense to have this here ?
> > Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
>
> > information in some taskbar anyway.
> >
> > Jacques

Bilgin Ibryam

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by Bilgin Ibryam

In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it

On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:

> + 1
>
> Bilgin
>
> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>> sense to have this here ?
>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>> this information in some taskbar anyway.
>>
>> Jacques
>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the server's
time?
If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
-Bruno

2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>

> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>
> + 1
>>
>> Bilgin
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make sense to
>>> have this here ?
>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>
>>
>

Jacques Le Roux

Re: Time in header

Administrator

If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I can't see why an end user would be interested by server time,
but I may be wrong...

Jacques

From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>

> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the server's
> time?
> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
> -Bruno
>
> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>
>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>
>> + 1
>>>
>>> Bilgin
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make sense to
>>>> have this here ?
>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

David E Jones-3

Re: Time in header

Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in
case their time zone setting is off or something?

Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
better personally for less critical/useful info like that.

-David

On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I
> may be wrong...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>> server's
>> time?
>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>
>>> + 1
>>>>
>>>> Bilgin
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>> sense to
>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>> this
>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Jacques Le Roux

Re: Time in header

Administrator

+1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even greater ;o)

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>

>
> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in
> case their time zone setting is off or something?
>
> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I
>> may be wrong...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>> server's
>>> time?
>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> + 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>> sense to
>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Adrian Crum

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by David E Jones-3

I agree with David. The user needs to know what time zone and locale are
being used.

-Adrian

David E Jones wrote:

>
> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in case
> their time zone setting is off or something?
>
> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I
>> may be wrong...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>> server's
>>> time?
>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> + 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>> sense to
>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

OK, I will move to the footer.

BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included here? *
OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
*
With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info command and
the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info generated
string available in a portlet.
WDYT?

-Bruno
**
2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even
> greater ;o)
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in case
>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>
>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I may be
>>> wrong...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>>> server's
>>>> time?
>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>>> -Bruno
>>>>
>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> + 1
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make sense
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides this
>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

A patch is available in
*OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
*
-Bruno*
*
2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>

> OK, I will move to the footer.
>
> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included here? *
> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
> *
> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info command and
> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info generated
> string available in a portlet.
> WDYT?
>
> -Bruno
> **
> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even
>> greater ;o)
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in case
>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>>
>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I may be
>>>> wrong...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>>>> server's
>>>>> time?
>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>>>> sense to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Jacques Le Roux

Re: Time in header

Administrator

Thanks Bruno,

Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148#action_12586148
are already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer here) ?
They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested (merged easily) it works well.
Some points though, bsh -> groovy,
Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy, should we ?

Jacques

From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>

>A patch is available in
> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
> *
> -Bruno*
> *
> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
>
>> OK, I will move to the footer.
>>
>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included here? *
>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
>> *
>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info command and
>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info generated
>> string available in a portlet.
>> WDYT?
>>
>> -Bruno
>> **
>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>
>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even
>>> greater ;o)
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in case
>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I may be
>>>>> wrong...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>>>>> server's
>>>>>> time?
>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>>>>> sense to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

Better looking into this I am trying to implement a much simpler solution:
I have changed the ant svninfo task to create a svninfo.xml file with all
SVN info. It looks like this:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<info>
<entry
kind="dir"
path="."
revision="740301">
<url>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/trunk</url>
<repository>
<root>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf</root>
<uuid>13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68</uuid>
</repository>
<wc-info>
<schedule>normal</schedule>
</wc-info>
<commit
revision="740301">
<author>buscob</author>
<date>2009-02-03T13:26:11.171854Z</date>
</commit>
</entry>
</info>
--------------------------------------------------------------------

I need now the ant task to extract the entry revision (and may be the url)
attributes from this file and append it into a simple text file that is
included in the footer.ftl

Does somebody know how to have an ant task read a tag attribute and then
write it to a textfile?
Many thanks,
Bruno

2009/2/3 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>

> Thanks Bruno,
>
> Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
> Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148#action_12586148are already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer
> here) ? They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested (merged easily)
> it works well.
> Some points though, bsh -> groovy, Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
> One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy, should we ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>
>> A patch is available in
>> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
>> *
>> -Bruno*
>> *
>> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
>>
>> OK, I will move to the footer.
>>>
>>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included here? *
>>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
>>>
>>> *
>>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info command
>>> and
>>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
>>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info
>>> generated
>>> string available in a portlet.
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>> **
>>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even
>>>
>>>> greater ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
>>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in
>>>>> case
>>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
>>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>>>>>
>>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I
>>>>>> may be
>>>>>> wrong...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>>>>>> server's
>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove it.
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>>>>>> sense to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>

Tim Ruppert

Re: Time in header

Just wondering - what happens when you've done an export instead of a co?

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

----- "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Better looking into this I am trying to implement a much simpler
> solution:
> I have changed the ant svninfo task to create a svninfo.xml file with
> all
> SVN info. It looks like this:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <info>
> <entry
> kind="dir"
> path="."
> revision="740301">
> <url>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/trunk</url>
> <repository>
> <root>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf</root>
> <uuid>13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68</uuid>
> </repository>
> <wc-info>
> <schedule>normal</schedule>
> </wc-info>
> <commit
> revision="740301">
> <author>buscob</author>
> <date>2009-02-03T13:26:11.171854Z</date>
> </commit>
> </entry>
> </info>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I need now the ant task to extract the entry revision (and may be the
> url)
> attributes from this file and append it into a simple text file that
> is
> included in the footer.ftl
>
> Does somebody know how to have an ant task read a tag attribute and
> then
> write it to a textfile?
> Many thanks,
> Bruno
>
>
> 2009/2/3 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
> > Thanks Bruno,
> >
> > Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
> > Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148#action_12586148are
> already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer
> > here) ? They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested (merged
> easily)
> > it works well.
> > Some points though, bsh -> groovy, Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
> > One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy,
> should we ?
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
> >
> >> A patch is available in
> >> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
> >> *
> >> -Bruno*
> >> *
> >> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
> >>
> >> OK, I will move to the footer.
> >>>
> >>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included
> here? *
> >>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info
> command
> >>> and
> >>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
> >>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info
> >>> generated
> >>> string available in a portlet.
> >>> WDYT?
> >>>
> >>> -Bruno
> >>> **
> >>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> >>>
> >>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be
> even
> >>>
> >>>> greater ;o)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user,
> and
> >>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just
> in
> >>>>> case
> >>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the
> footer
> >>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in
> webtools. I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time,
> but I
> >>>>>> may be
> >>>>>> wrong...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know
> the
> >>>>>>> server's
> >>>>>>> time?
> >>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can
> remove it.
> >>>>>>> -Bruno
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> + 1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bilgin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it
> make
> >>>>>>>>> sense to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> have this here ?
> >>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS
> provides
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

Simply doesn't work!
The svn info command will complin it is not a working directory.
-Bruno

2009/2/3 Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>

> Just wondering - what happens when you've done an export instead of a co?
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Better looking into this I am trying to implement a much simpler
> > solution:
> > I have changed the ant svninfo task to create a svninfo.xml file with
> > all
> > SVN info. It looks like this:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > <info>
> > <entry
> > kind="dir"
> > path="."
> > revision="740301">
> > <url>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/trunk</url>
> > <repository>
> > <root>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf</root>
> > <uuid>13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68</uuid>
> > </repository>
> > <wc-info>
> > <schedule>normal</schedule>
> > </wc-info>
> > <commit
> > revision="740301">
> > <author>buscob</author>
> > <date>2009-02-03T13:26:11.171854Z</date>
> > </commit>
> > </entry>
> > </info>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I need now the ant task to extract the entry revision (and may be the
> > url)
> > attributes from this file and append it into a simple text file that
> > is
> > included in the footer.ftl
> >
> > Does somebody know how to have an ant task read a tag attribute and
> > then
> > write it to a textfile?
> > Many thanks,
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > 2009/2/3 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> >
> > > Thanks Bruno,
> > >
> > > Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
> > > Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148#action_12586148are
> > already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer
> > > here) ? They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested (merged
> > easily)
> > > it works well.
> > > Some points though, bsh -> groovy, Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
> > > One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy,
> > should we ?
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > >> A patch is available in
> > >> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
> > >> *
> > >> -Bruno*
> > >> *
> > >> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
> > >>
> > >> OK, I will move to the footer.
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included
> > here? *
> > >>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
> > >>>
> > >>> *
> > >>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info
> > command
> > >>> and
> > >>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
> > >>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info
> > >>> generated
> > >>> string available in a portlet.
> > >>> WDYT?
> > >>>
> > >>> -Bruno
> > >>> **
> > >>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be
> > even
> > >>>
> > >>>> greater ;o)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jacques
> > >>>>
> > >>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user,
> > and
> > >>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just
> > in
> > >>>>> case
> > >>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the
> > footer
> > >>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in
> > webtools. I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time,
> > but I
> > >>>>>> may be
> > >>>>>> wrong...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know
> > the
> > >>>>>>> server's
> > >>>>>>> time?
> > >>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can
> > remove it.
> > >>>>>>> -Bruno
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> + 1
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Bilgin
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it
> > make
> > >>>>>>>>> sense to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> have this here ?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS
> > provides
> > >>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by Bruno Busco

OK, I have done, don't worry.
I used the <xmlproperty> ant task.

-Bruno

2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>

> Better looking into this I am trying to implement a much simpler solution:
> I have changed the ant svninfo task to create a svninfo.xml file with all
> SVN info. It looks like this:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <info>
> <entry
> kind="dir"
> path="."
> revision="740301">
> <url>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/trunk</url>
> <repository>
> <root>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf</root>
> <uuid>13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68</uuid>
> </repository>
> <wc-info>
> <schedule>normal</schedule>
> </wc-info>
> <commit
> revision="740301">
> <author>buscob</author>
> <date>2009-02-03T13:26:11.171854Z</date>
> </commit>
> </entry>
> </info>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I need now the ant task to extract the entry revision (and may be the url)
> attributes from this file and append it into a simple text file that is
> included in the footer.ftl
>
> Does somebody know how to have an ant task read a tag attribute and then
> write it to a textfile?
> Many thanks,
> Bruno
>
>
> 2009/2/3 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>
> Thanks Bruno,
>>
>> Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
>> Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148#action_12586148are already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer
>> here) ? They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested (merged easily)
>> it works well.
>> Some points though, bsh -> groovy, Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
>> One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy, should we ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> A patch is available in
>>> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
>>> *
>>> -Bruno*
>>> *
>>> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> OK, I will move to the footer.
>>>>
>>>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included here? *
>>>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info command
>>>> and
>>>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
>>>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info
>>>> generated
>>>> string available in a portlet.
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> -Bruno
>>>> **
>>>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would be even
>>>>
>>>>> greater ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user, and
>>>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just in
>>>>>> case
>>>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the footer
>>>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in webtools. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time, but I
>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>> wrong...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know the
>>>>>>>> server's
>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can remove
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it make
>>>>>>>>>> sense to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS provides
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Bruno Busco

Re: Time in header

In reply to this post by Tim Ruppert

Tim,
if you do an export instead a checkout you could change the script you use
to write the revision number in the svninfo.ftl file as it were written by
the ant svninfo task.

In this way we will have both the svn copy of ofbiz and the hotwaxmedia demo
exactly the same (no footer.ftl hacking).

Thank you,
-Bruno

2009/2/3 Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>

Jacopo Cappellato-4

Re: Time in header

Bruno,

I like the approach you are taking (an ant target that writes the rev
id into a text file that is then included into the footer).
However, it would be great if you would address the following
scenarios/:

1) svn is not available: the build process should proceed without errors
2) the ant svn plugin is not available (I think it is an optional
lib): the build process should proceed without errors
3) internate connection is not available when the ant target is
invoked: the build process should proceed without errors
4) evaluate possible license issues (if any) with the ant svn plugin
5) (as Tim mentioned) the trunk was exported instead of checked out

Ideally, in all these situations the footer should show an empty rev id.

Also, where should we place the text file with the rev number in it?
I'd suggest in the runtime folder (so that we don't write files inside
the framework).

Just my 2 cents,

Jacopo

On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:

> Tim,
> if you do an export instead a checkout you could change the script
> you use
> to write the revision number in the svninfo.ftl file as it were
> written by
> the ant svninfo task.
>
> In this way we will have both the svn copy of ofbiz and the
> hotwaxmedia demo
> exactly the same (no footer.ftl hacking).
>
> Thank you,
> -Bruno
>
> 2009/2/3 Tim Ruppert <[hidden email]>
>
>> Just wondering - what happens when you've done an export instead of
>> a co?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> ----- "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Better looking into this I am trying to implement a much simpler
>>> solution:
>>> I have changed the ant svninfo task to create a svninfo.xml file
>>> with
>>> all
>>> SVN info. It looks like this:
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>>> <info>
>>> <entry
>>> kind="dir"
>>> path="."
>>> revision="740301">
>>> <url>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/trunk</url>
>>> <repository>
>>> <root>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf</root>
>>> <uuid>13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68</uuid>
>>> </repository>
>>> <wc-info>
>>> <schedule>normal</schedule>
>>> </wc-info>
>>> <commit
>>> revision="740301">
>>> <author>buscob</author>
>>> <date>2009-02-03T13:26:11.171854Z</date>
>>> </commit>
>>> </entry>
>>> </info>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I need now the ant task to extract the entry revision (and may be
>>> the
>>> url)
>>> attributes from this file and append it into a simple text file that
>>> is
>>> included in the footer.ftl
>>>
>>> Does somebody know how to have an ant task read a tag attribute and
>>> then
>>> write it to a textfile?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/2/3 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Bruno,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, like you I think we should consider more seriously this issue.
>>>> Maybe your requirements (Subversion) in
>>>>
>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700?focusedCommentId=12586148
>> #action_12586148are
>>> already satisfied on the main demo server (please someone can answer
>>>> here) ? They are on my alternate dermo server. I just tested
>>>> (merged
>>> easily)
>>>> it works well.
>>>> Some points though, bsh -> groovy, Some i18n needed in svninfo.txt
>>>> One question : I don't think we should put this in hot-deploy,
>>> should we ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> A patch is available in
>>>>> *OFBIZ-2164<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2164>
>>>>> *
>>>>> -Bruno*
>>>>> *
>>>>> 2009/2/3 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I will move to the footer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW for the SVN info, could we think to use the patch included
>>> here? *
>>>>>> OFBIZ-1700 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> With this change a new ant target was added to run the svn info
>>> command
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the results were available to be shown in an "about" application.
>>>>>> May be now a better implementation could be to have the svn info
>>>>>> generated
>>>>>> string available in a portlet.
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> 2009/2/2 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for footer (and if we could have the release number it would
>>>>>> be
>>> even
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> greater ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shouldn't that be the time the server thinks it is for the user,
>>> and
>>>>>>>> therefore something that we might want visible to the user just
>>> in
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> their time zone setting is off or something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, it doesn't need to be in the header... I like the
>>> footer
>>>>>>>> better personally for less critical/useful info like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we need information on the server there is the log in
>>> webtools. I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can't see why an end user would be interested by server time,
>>> but I
>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>> wrong...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a second thought... are we sure this is not usefull to know
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> server's
>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>> If this is not the case and there are not objections I can
>>> remove it.
>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/1 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In case my vote was not very clear: + 1 to remove it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> + 1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just realise that we have a date/time in header. Does it
>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> have this here ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time (and even date) is not updated and each modern OS
>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information in some taskbar anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>

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