Use of Open Standards in Open For Business

[David E Jones-3]

NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements  
and designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more  
messages along these lines.

In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page  
with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we could/
should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will likely  
need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but already  
has some information that I hope will be useful for people interested  
in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of  
implementations of open standards. Here is the page:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz

There are a few ways these might be useful:

1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to  
implement them

2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what  
would be good to implement

3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not  
do it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way  
you (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and  
one that may already have some existing code to support it, or others  
in the community you can collaborate with to build it

If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see  
represented there, please do write!

-David

[BJ Freeman]

My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
1) lowering Key strokes
2) lowering Learning Curve.
3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)


David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:

>
> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements and
> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more messages
> along these lines.
>
> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>
> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>
> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
> implement them
>
> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what would
> be good to implement
>
> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not do
> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others in the
> community you can collaborate with to build it
>
> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
> represented there, please do write!
>
> -David
>
>
>

[David E Jones-3]

This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried  
searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it  
found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first  
result.

Do you have a URL or something?

-David


On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
> 1) lowering Key strokes
> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>
>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some  
>> requirements and
>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more  
>> messages
>> along these lines.
>>
>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>
>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>
>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>> implement them
>>
>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what  
>> would
>> be good to implement
>>
>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why  
>> not do
>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way  
>> you
>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others  
>> in the
>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>
>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>> represented there, please do write!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>

[BJ Freeman]

Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I have
found that it is what most programming efforts miss.

David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:

>
> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
> result.
>
> Do you have a URL or something?
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>
>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements and
>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more messages
>>> along these lines.
>>>
>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>
>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>
>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>> implement them
>>>
>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what would
>>> be good to implement
>>>
>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not do
>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others in the
>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

[David E Jones-3]

We already have some UI guidelines for the project that could be  
extended to include these things. Adrian put quite a bit of work into  
that and there are documents in the admin space on docs.ofbiz.org.

Creating a new standard... hmmmm... I think here at OFBiz we're more  
into "de-facto" standards driven by what exists in the project. We're  
really not setup to be a "standards body" or anything like it.

-David


On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:30 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
> as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I  
> have
> found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
>>
>> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
>> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
>> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
>> result.
>>
>> Do you have a URL or something?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>>
>>>
>>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some  
>>>> requirements and
>>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more  
>>>> messages
>>>> along these lines.
>>>>
>>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a  
>>>> page
>>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>>
>>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>>
>>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>>> implement them
>>>>
>>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what  
>>>> would
>>>> be good to implement
>>>>
>>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why  
>>>> not do
>>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this  
>>>> way you
>>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and  
>>>> one
>>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others  
>>>> in the
>>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to  
>>>> see
>>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>

[BJ Freeman]

I am pliable, Not wanting to Start anything (tongue in cheek)
User Interface Layout Best Practices works for Me.

The impression I have gotten up to this point is
"We are not into friendly layout, but a basic place to start from"

As Ofbiz is going to be marketed, it should then be focus on the UI to
be intuitive and friendly.

since I use those words a lot that my be a place to start. defining what
those words mean.

others can then modify and expand on those definitions.

David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 7:43 PM:

>
> We already have some UI guidelines for the project that could be
> extended to include these things. Adrian put quite a bit of work into
> that and there are documents in the admin space on docs.ofbiz.org.
>
> Creating a new standard... hmmmm... I think here at OFBiz we're more
> into "de-facto" standards driven by what exists in the project. We're
> really not setup to be a "standards body" or anything like it.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:30 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
>> as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I have
>> found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
>>>
>>> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
>>> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
>>> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
>>> result.
>>>
>>> Do you have a URL or something?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>>>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>>>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>>>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>>>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some
>>>>> requirements and
>>>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more
>>>>> messages
>>>>> along these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>>>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>>>> implement them
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what
>>>>> would
>>>>> be good to implement
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why
>>>>> not do
>>>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
>>>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>>>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others
>>>>> in the
>>>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>>>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

[Laclough]

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