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Si Chen-2
Hi everybody.

Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for
OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good.  We wrote a little tutorial on
how to use BIRT:
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf

Please let us know what you think.

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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

Jacques Le Roux
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From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]>


> Hi everybody.
>
> Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for
> OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good.  We wrote a little tutorial on
> how to use BIRT:
> http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf
>
> Please let us know what you think.

I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time
yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very
interesting !

Jacques


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Users - Image Manipulation

Andrew Sykes
Hi,

Is there currently anything implemented for manipulating product images?

I'm looking for things like, creating thumbnails from larger images and
overlaying watermarks and logos on an existing image.
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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

Brett
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Si,

How does BIRT compare to Jasper for reporting?


Brett

On 2/23/06, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]>
>
>
> > Hi everybody.
> >
> > Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for
> > OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good.  We wrote a little tutorial on
> > how to use BIRT:
> > http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf
> >
> > Please let us know what you think.
>
> I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time
> yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very
> interesting !
>
> Jacques
>
>
> > Si
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Re: Users - Image Manipulation

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> Is there currently anything implemented for manipulating product images?

> I'm looking for things like, creating thumbnails from larger images and
> overlaying watermarks and logos on an existing image.

If you add something external, I think GraphicsMagick has a Java
interface, and I know that it's a very powerful system.

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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

Si Chen-2
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Not knowing too much about JasperReports, it's hard to say on technicals
alone.  However, two things stand out in BIRT's favor:

1.  I think the Eclipse license is compatible with the Apache license,
while Jasper's LGPL is not.  (Can someone confirm?)

2.  I like the fact that it's an Eclipse plugin, rather than some other
Jasper designer tool.

Si

Brett Palmer wrote:

>Si,
>
>How does BIRT compare to Jasper for reporting?
>
>
>Brett
>
>On 2/23/06, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>
>>From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi everybody.
>>>
>>>Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for
>>>OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good.  We wrote a little tutorial on
>>>how to use BIRT:
>>>http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf
>>>
>>>Please let us know what you think.
>>>      
>>>
>>I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time
>>yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very
>>interesting !
>>
>>Jacques
>>
>>
>>    
>>
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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

J Aaron Farr

On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Si Chen wrote:

> Not knowing too much about JasperReports, it's hard to say on  
> technicals
> alone.  However, two things stand out in BIRT's favor:
>
> 1.  I think the Eclipse license is compatible with the Apache license,
> while Jasper's LGPL is not.  (Can someone confirm?)

Without getting into too many details, yes.


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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

John Liston
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Hi all,

I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in on this.

If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License.

I have no personal preference.

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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

Si Chen-2

The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which
means we can't embed it into OFBiz.  That doesn't prevent you from using
the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal implications.

More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your
opinion?  I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know
anything about the product.

Si

John Liston wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in on this.
>
>If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License.
>
>I have no personal preference.
>
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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

David E. Jones

Si,

If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache  
projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for  
it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works  
that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered  
code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun).

Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere  
let me know... I could be wrong.

-David


On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote:

>
> The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which
> means we can't embed it into OFBiz.  That doesn't prevent you from  
> using
> the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal  
> implications.
>
> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your
> opinion?  I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know
> anything about the product.
>
> Si
>
> John Liston wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in  
>> on this.
>>
>> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and  
>> has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the  
>> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public  
>> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License.
>>
>> I have no personal preference.
>>
>> John Liston
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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Re: Users - [OFBiz] MPL and Apache License? (WAS: Users - creating reports with BIRT)

Si Chen-2
I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the main
OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache.  Is that true?

Si

David E. Jones wrote:

>
> Si,
>
> If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache  
> projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for  
> it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works  
> that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered  
> code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun).
>
> Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere  
> let me know... I could be wrong.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote:
>
>>
>> The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which
>> means we can't embed it into OFBiz.  That doesn't prevent you from  
>> using
>> the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal  
>> implications.
>>
>> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your
>> opinion?  I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know
>> anything about the product.
>>
>> Si
>>
>> John Liston wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in  
>>> on this.
>>>
>>> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and  has
>>> BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the  
>>> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public  
>>> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License.
>>>
>>> I have no personal preference.
>>>
>>> John Liston
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Users mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Users - [OFBiz] MPL and Apache License? (WAS: Users - creating reports with BIRT)

J Aaron Farr-2


On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Si Chen wrote:

> I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the  
> main
> OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache.  Is that true?
>
> Si

You can include unmodified MPL binaries in the Apache SVN.  There are  
policies (that are still being worked out) about how you properly  
notify users about these extra licenses.

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Re: Users - [OFBiz] MPL and Apache License? (WAS: Users - creating reports with BIRT)

David E. Jones
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There are quite a few licenses out there that pose problems, but I  
think these are okay.

The main ones to watch out for are the GPL and LGPL. For GPL we can't  
even include code that depends on the libraries, and for LGPL we can  
include the code, but not the libraries themselves. For MPL/SPL we  
can include libraries.

There is a brief summary about this on the license review page in the  
Wiki:

http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?page=LibrariesIncludedInOFBiz

-David


On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Si Chen wrote:

> I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the  
> main
> OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache.  Is that true?
>
> Si
>
> David E. Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Si,
>>
>> If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache
>> projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for
>> it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works
>> that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered
>> code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun).
>>
>> Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere
>> let me know... I could be wrong.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which
>>> means we can't embed it into OFBiz.  That doesn't prevent you from
>>> using
>>> the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal
>>> implications.
>>>
>>> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in  
>>> your
>>> opinion?  I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't  
>>> know
>>> anything about the product.
>>>
>>> Si
>>>
>>> John Liston wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in
>>>> on this.
>>>>
>>>> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and  
>>>> has
>>>> BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the
>>>> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public
>>>> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License.
>>>>
>>>> I have no personal preference.
>>>>
>>>> John Liston
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Users mailing list
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>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

John Liston
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> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your opinion?

BIRT seems tied to Eclipse and SWT. Pentaho isn't. BIRT is the open source subset of what Actuate offers. All of Pentaho is fully open source. BIRT appears more mature and has more current market acceptance. Pentaho is a work in progress but aims to release an enterprise-class BI platform into open source.

I'm no expert. I've never used either one. I got this stuff from Googling "BIRT vs Pentaho". This article was very informative: http://crm.ittoolbox.com/blogs/featuredentry.asp?i=6982

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Re: Users - creating reports with BIRT

Si Chen-2
Hmm.... how interesting.  I'll read the blog later.  In the meantime,
please take a look at our tutorial and, if you have some personal
experience experimenting with both, that would be great to hear.

My hope is long term to have a BI tool embedded into OFBiz, so reports
can be designed with a designer/tool, then uploaded to the server and
rendered.  It would have to be compatible with the  OFBiz Apache
License, which David tells me the MPL is not a problem.

Please let us know if you find out more.

Si

John Liston wrote:

>>More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your opinion?
>>    
>>
>
>BIRT seems tied to Eclipse and SWT. Pentaho isn't. BIRT is the open source subset of what Actuate offers. All of Pentaho is fully open source. BIRT appears more mature and has more current market acceptance. Pentaho is a work in progress but aims to release an enterprise-class BI platform into open source.
>
>I'm no expert. I've never used either one. I got this stuff from Googling "BIRT vs Pentaho". This article was very informative: http://crm.ittoolbox.com/blogs/featuredentry.asp?i=6982
>
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