Hi everybody.
Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good. We wrote a little tutorial on how to use BIRT: http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf Please let us know what you think. Si _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]> > Hi everybody. > > Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for > OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good. We wrote a little tutorial on > how to use BIRT: > http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf > > Please let us know what you think. I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very interesting ! Jacques > Si > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
Hi,
Is there currently anything implemented for manipulating product images? I'm looking for things like, creating thumbnails from larger images and overlaying watermarks and logos on an existing image. -- Kind Regards Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]> Sykes Development Ltd http://www.sykesdevelopment.com _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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Si,
How does BIRT compare to Jasper for reporting? Brett On 2/23/06, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]> > > > > Hi everybody. > > > > Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for > > OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good. We wrote a little tutorial on > > how to use BIRT: > > http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf > > > > Please let us know what you think. > > I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time > yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very > interesting ! > > Jacques > > > > Si > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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> Is there currently anything implemented for manipulating product images?
> I'm looking for things like, creating thumbnails from larger images and > overlaying watermarks and logos on an existing image. If you add something external, I think GraphicsMagick has a Java interface, and I know that it's a very powerful system. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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Not knowing too much about JasperReports, it's hard to say on technicals
alone. However, two things stand out in BIRT's favor: 1. I think the Eclipse license is compatible with the Apache license, while Jasper's LGPL is not. (Can someone confirm?) 2. I like the fact that it's an Eclipse plugin, rather than some other Jasper designer tool. Si Brett Palmer wrote: >Si, > >How does BIRT compare to Jasper for reporting? > > >Brett > >On 2/23/06, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >>From: "Si Chen" <[hidden email]> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi everybody. >>> >>>Leon and I spent some time looking at BIRT as a reporting solution for >>>OFBiz, and we found it to be pretty good. We wrote a little tutorial on >>>how to use BIRT: >>>http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/ofbiz-birt.pdf >>> >>>Please let us know what you think. >>> >>> >>I was wanting to take a look at Birt one day or another. I have not enough time >>yet, I will first read your doc, thanks Si. At first glance seems very >>interesting ! >> >>Jacques >> >> >> >> >>>Si >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Users mailing list >>>[hidden email] >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Users mailing list >>[hidden email] >>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Si Chen wrote: > Not knowing too much about JasperReports, it's hard to say on > technicals > alone. However, two things stand out in BIRT's favor: > > 1. I think the Eclipse license is compatible with the Apache license, > while Jasper's LGPL is not. (Can someone confirm?) Without getting into too many details, yes. jaaron _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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Hi all,
I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in on this. If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License. I have no personal preference. John Liston _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which means we can't embed it into OFBiz. That doesn't prevent you from using the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal implications. More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your opinion? I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know anything about the product. Si John Liston wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in on this. > >If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License. > >I have no personal preference. > >John Liston > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
Si, If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun). Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere let me know... I could be wrong. -David On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote: > > The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which > means we can't embed it into OFBiz. That doesn't prevent you from > using > the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal > implications. > > More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your > opinion? I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know > anything about the product. > > Si > > John Liston wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in >> on this. >> >> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and >> has BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the >> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public >> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License. >> >> I have no personal preference. >> >> John Liston >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the main
OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache. Is that true? Si David E. Jones wrote: > > Si, > > If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache > projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for > it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works > that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered > code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun). > > Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere > let me know... I could be wrong. > > -David > > > On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote: > >> >> The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which >> means we can't embed it into OFBiz. That doesn't prevent you from >> using >> the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal >> implications. >> >> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your >> opinion? I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't know >> anything about the product. >> >> Si >> >> John Liston wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in >>> on this. >>> >>> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and has >>> BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the >>> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public >>> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License. >>> >>> I have no personal preference. >>> >>> John Liston >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Si Chen wrote: > I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the > main > OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache. Is that true? > > Si You can include unmodified MPL binaries in the Apache SVN. There are policies (that are still being worked out) about how you properly notify users about these extra licenses. ---- jaaron _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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There are quite a few licenses out there that pose problems, but I think these are okay. The main ones to watch out for are the GPL and LGPL. For GPL we can't even include code that depends on the libraries, and for LGPL we can include the code, but not the libraries themselves. For MPL/SPL we can include libraries. There is a brief summary about this on the license review page in the Wiki: http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?page=LibrariesIncludedInOFBiz -David On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Si Chen wrote: > I had just guessed that one would not be able to include it in the > main > OFBiz repository if the main OFBiz is under Apache. Is that true? > > Si > > David E. Jones wrote: > >> >> Si, >> >> If I understand it right MPL libraries can be used in Apache >> projects, but only if unmodified. The MPL license is like GPL for >> it's own code, but is more like Apache or BSD/MIT for larger works >> that include it, ie it makes an explicit distinction between "covered >> code" and "larger works". The same is true for the SPL (Sun). >> >> Of course, if you've found something specific about this somewhere >> let me know... I could be wrong. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Si Chen wrote: >> >>> >>> The MPL is not compatible with the Apache license, by the way, which >>> means we can't embed it into OFBiz. That doesn't prevent you from >>> using >>> the two together, though, as long as you understand the legal >>> implications. >>> >>> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in >>> your >>> opinion? I've heard of Pentaho (I love their website!) but don't >>> know >>> anything about the product. >>> >>> Si >>> >>> John Liston wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm considering OFBiz for a large project and thought I'd nose in >>>> on this. >>>> >>>> If OFBiz is considering cozying up to a reporting solution, and >>>> has >>>> BIRT in mind, I wanted to make sure you're also aware of the >>>> Pentaho BI Project (http://www.pentaho.org/). The Pentaho Public >>>> License is a variant of the Mozilla Public License. >>>> >>>> I have no personal preference. >>>> >>>> John Liston >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users smime.p7s (3K) Download Attachment |
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> More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your opinion?
BIRT seems tied to Eclipse and SWT. Pentaho isn't. BIRT is the open source subset of what Actuate offers. All of Pentaho is fully open source. BIRT appears more mature and has more current market acceptance. Pentaho is a work in progress but aims to release an enterprise-class BI platform into open source. I'm no expert. I've never used either one. I got this stuff from Googling "BIRT vs Pentaho". This article was very informative: http://crm.ittoolbox.com/blogs/featuredentry.asp?i=6982 John Liston _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
Hmm.... how interesting. I'll read the blog later. In the meantime,
please take a look at our tutorial and, if you have some personal experience experimenting with both, that would be great to hear. My hope is long term to have a BI tool embedded into OFBiz, so reports can be designed with a designer/tool, then uploaded to the server and rendered. It would have to be compatible with the OFBiz Apache License, which David tells me the MPL is not a problem. Please let us know if you find out more. Si John Liston wrote: >>More to the point: What's the advantage of Pentaho over BIRT, in your opinion? >> >> > >BIRT seems tied to Eclipse and SWT. Pentaho isn't. BIRT is the open source subset of what Actuate offers. All of Pentaho is fully open source. BIRT appears more mature and has more current market acceptance. Pentaho is a work in progress but aims to release an enterprise-class BI platform into open source. > >I'm no expert. I've never used either one. I got this stuff from Googling "BIRT vs Pentaho". This article was very informative: http://crm.ittoolbox.com/blogs/featuredentry.asp?i=6982 > >John Liston > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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