Users - looks like we know what the buzzwords of 2006 are going to e
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"Thank you for your interest in _____'s AJAX-ready, SOA-compliant Technology" _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
Re: Users - looks like we know what the buzzwords of 2006 are going to e
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This reminds me of an old buzzword and acronym life cycle article I saw a while back. AJAX and SOA are both _excellent_ buzzword acronyms because they are both nearly meaningless, or at least because they have been used out of proper context so much their meaning is watered down to the point of being mostly water. Sorry, no getting really pissed on either of these... What's also funny is that both of these kind of started out being used in an adulterated context. AJAX is about my favorite as it commonly refers to a UI technology (ie that's emphasis) where it is really a client/server communication technology. Also, what is so asynchronous about AJAX? It happens in the background of a "web page", but it the communication isn't really asynchronous is it? Isn't it just a request/response, and not a message-based mechanism? And SOA: totally silly. How does wrapping an object oriented application with web services make it a service oriented architecture? Also, what the heck does "SOA-compliant" mean? I don't think I've had the pleasure of reading the SOA 1.0 specification... You can tell marketing has entered into technology in a major way when the labels have little to do with what they describe... It looks like the score on this one is 1 for FUD fodder and 0 for real progress. Then again, perhaps not. After all, somebody has to get excited enough about this stuff to invest in development of it and I must admit I'm truly impressed with any marketing effort that can get someone to hand over a good percentage of their fortune for a TLA. ;) -David Si Chen wrote: > Real subject of an email I just got: > > "Thank you for your interest in _____'s AJAX-ready, SOA-compliant > Technology" > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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This company is the master of hype. I was at one of their seminars, and
they actually introduced their Chairman by saying "When the history of the world is written, ____ _____ will be remembered as the father of enterprise software." Wow.... David E. Jones wrote: >This reminds me of an old buzzword and acronym life cycle article I saw a while back. AJAX and SOA are both _excellent_ buzzword acronyms because they are both nearly meaningless, or at least because they have been used out of proper context so much their meaning is watered down to the point of being mostly water. Sorry, no getting really pissed on either of these... > >What's also funny is that both of these kind of started out being used in an adulterated context. > >AJAX is about my favorite as it commonly refers to a UI technology (ie that's emphasis) where it is really a client/server communication technology. Also, what is so asynchronous about AJAX? It happens in the background of a "web page", but it the communication isn't really asynchronous is it? Isn't it just a request/response, and not a message-based mechanism? > >And SOA: totally silly. How does wrapping an object oriented application with web services make it a service oriented architecture? Also, what the heck does "SOA-compliant" mean? I don't think I've had the pleasure of reading the SOA 1.0 specification... > >You can tell marketing has entered into technology in a major way when the labels have little to do with what they describe... It looks like the score on this one is 1 for FUD fodder and 0 for real progress. Then again, perhaps not. After all, somebody has to get excited enough about this stuff to invest in development of it and I must admit I'm truly impressed with any marketing effort that can get someone to hand over a good percentage of their fortune for a TLA. ;) > >-David > > >Si Chen wrote: > > >>Real subject of an email I just got: >> >>"Thank you for your interest in _____'s AJAX-ready, SOA-compliant >>Technology" >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Users mailing list >>[hidden email] >>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
Re: Users - looks like we know what the buzzwords of 2006 are going to e
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Yeah, wow is right... on the other hand perhaps that barely begins to cover it. With that opening you know you're in for a special treat. -David Si Chen wrote: > This company is the master of hype. I was at one of their seminars, and > they actually introduced their Chairman by saying "When the history of > the world is written, ____ _____ will be remembered as the father of > enterprise software." > > Wow.... > > David E. Jones wrote: > >> This reminds me of an old buzzword and acronym life cycle article I saw a while back. AJAX and SOA are both _excellent_ buzzword acronyms because they are both nearly meaningless, or at least because they have been used out of proper context so much their meaning is watered down to the point of being mostly water. Sorry, no getting really pissed on either of these... >> >> What's also funny is that both of these kind of started out being used in an adulterated context. >> >> AJAX is about my favorite as it commonly refers to a UI technology (ie that's emphasis) where it is really a client/server communication technology. Also, what is so asynchronous about AJAX? It happens in the background of a "web page", but it the communication isn't really asynchronous is it? Isn't it just a request/response, and not a message-based mechanism? >> >> And SOA: totally silly. How does wrapping an object oriented application with web services make it a service oriented architecture? Also, what the heck does "SOA-compliant" mean? I don't think I've had the pleasure of reading the SOA 1.0 specification... >> >> You can tell marketing has entered into technology in a major way when the labels have little to do with what they describe... It looks like the score on this one is 1 for FUD fodder and 0 for real progress. Then again, perhaps not. After all, somebody has to get excited enough about this stuff to invest in development of it and I must admit I'm truly impressed with any marketing effort that can get someone to hand over a good percentage of their fortune for a TLA. ;) >> >> -David >> >> >> Si Chen wrote: >> >> >>> Real subject of an email I just got: >>> >>> "Thank you for your interest in _____'s AJAX-ready, SOA-compliant >>> Technology" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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Sad to say, that was not the case... The breakfast offerings were
particularly paltry :( David E. Jones wrote: >Yeah, wow is right... on the other hand perhaps that barely begins to cover it. With that opening you know you're in for a special treat. > >-David > > >Si Chen wrote: > > >>This company is the master of hype. I was at one of their seminars, and >>they actually introduced their Chairman by saying "When the history of >>the world is written, ____ _____ will be remembered as the father of >>enterprise software." >> >>Wow.... >> >>David E. Jones wrote: >> >> >> >>>This reminds me of an old buzzword and acronym life cycle article I saw a while back. AJAX and SOA are both _excellent_ buzzword acronyms because they are both nearly meaningless, or at least because they have been used out of proper context so much their meaning is watered down to the point of being mostly water. Sorry, no getting really pissed on either of these... >>> >>>What's also funny is that both of these kind of started out being used in an adulterated context. >>> >>>AJAX is about my favorite as it commonly refers to a UI technology (ie that's emphasis) where it is really a client/server communication technology. Also, what is so asynchronous about AJAX? It happens in the background of a "web page", but it the communication isn't really asynchronous is it? Isn't it just a request/response, and not a message-based mechanism? >>> >>>And SOA: totally silly. How does wrapping an object oriented application with web services make it a service oriented architecture? Also, what the heck does "SOA-compliant" mean? I don't think I've had the pleasure of reading the SOA 1.0 specification... >>> >>>You can tell marketing has entered into technology in a major way when the labels have little to do with what they describe... It looks like the score on this one is 1 for FUD fodder and 0 for real progress. Then again, perhaps not. After all, somebody has to get excited enough about this stuff to invest in development of it and I must admit I'm truly impressed with any marketing effort that can get someone to hand over a good percentage of their fortune for a TLA. ;) >>> >>>-David >>> >>> >>>Si Chen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Real subject of an email I just got: >>>> >>>>"Thank you for your interest in _____'s AJAX-ready, SOA-compliant >>>>Technology" >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Users mailing list >>>>[hidden email] >>>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Users mailing list >>>[hidden email] >>>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Users mailing list >>[hidden email] >>http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >[hidden email] >http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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