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Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
 
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Hi Michael,
It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could open the access to all Wiki contributors. Jacques Le 27/04/2017 à 10:28, Michael Brohl a écrit : > Hi Jacques, > > as I have already mentioned > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to get > out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, if > we have a plan. > > Regards, > > Michael > > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >> >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >> >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >> Policy page. ") >> >> So? >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> What are others opinions? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>> >>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - >>>>>> our own) >>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of >>>>>> our project. >>>>>> >>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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I don't feel that implementing and maintaining a rather unknown solution
(with all sub-components/dependencies it requires) is in the best interest of the project. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > as I have already mentioned > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common > understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to > get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If > there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to > Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, > if we have a plan. > > Regards, > > Michael > > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > > OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >> >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >> >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a >> link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >> Policy page. ") >> >> So? >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> What are others opinions? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>> >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>> >>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>>> sufficient - >>>>>> our own) >>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>>> policies). >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>>> browser >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest >>>>>> of >>>>>> our project. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count >>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to >>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>>>>>>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and >>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the >>>>>>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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Rather unknown? Might be that you don't know it although it's hard to
miss :-) PIWIK is one of the leading Open Source web analysis platforms and a good alternative to Google Analytics. Several of our customers and our company use it for their business to keep the data on their own infrastructure and access. PIWIK does have very few and common requirements (Webserver, mysSQL, PHP) so that should be no problem. But it's my personal opinion and I won't object against Google Analytics if this is what the community wants to use. I think it cannot do harm to mention alternatives. My main concern is the missing plan as mentioned in my citation. Regards, Michael Am 27.04.17 um 14:18 schrieb Pierre Smits: > I don't feel that implementing and maintaining a rather unknown solution > (with all sub-components/dependencies it requires) is in the best interest > of the project. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Jacques, >> >> as I have already mentioned >> >> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >> get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >> >> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >> >> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, >> if we have a plan. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael >> >> >> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >> >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>> >>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a >>> link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>> Policy page. ") >>> >>> So? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>>> What are others opinions? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> >>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>>>> sufficient - >>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>>>> policies). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>>>> browser >>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we >>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count >>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do >>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>>>>>>>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and >>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> |
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Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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No, given the abundance of SEO and other visit tracking solutions (even
OFBiz has on - sort of) it is easy to miss. So you use it, and you implement it as an alternative - to other solutions - for your customers. Great! That means there in a (direct) source of knowledge this project could tap into. However, that is no guarantee for (timely) success. However, as said earlier, I don't feel it is in the best interest of this project to ask OFBiz volunteers to spend their effort on the upkeep of a system (web server, rdbms and application code), nor ask the ASF spend money on providing services around it. Even when there are other solutions readily and (somewhat) freely available as a service. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> wrote: > Rather unknown? Might be that you don't know it although it's hard to miss > :-) > > PIWIK is one of the leading Open Source web analysis platforms and a good > alternative to Google Analytics. Several of our customers and our company > use it for their business to keep the data on their own infrastructure and > access. > > PIWIK does have very few and common requirements (Webserver, mysSQL, PHP) > so that should be no problem. > > But it's my personal opinion and I won't object against Google Analytics > if this is what the community wants to use. I think it cannot do harm to > mention alternatives. > > My main concern is the missing plan as mentioned in my citation. > > Regards, > > Michael > > > Am 27.04.17 um 14:18 schrieb Pierre Smits: > >> I don't feel that implementing and maintaining a rather unknown solution >> (with all sub-components/dependencies it requires) is in the best interest >> of the project. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >> OFBiz based solutions & services >> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email] >> > >> wrote: >> >> Hi Jacques, >>> >>> as I have already mentioned >>> >>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want >>> to >>> get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>> >>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>> >>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for >>> tracking, >>> if we have a plan. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>> >>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>> >>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>> >>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a >>>> link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>> Policy page. ") >>>> >>>> So? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> >>>> What are others opinions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>>>>> sufficient - >>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>>>>> policies). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>>>>> browser >>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >>>>>>>> interest >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >>>>>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input >>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >>>>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count >>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to >>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > > |
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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Hi Michael,
My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and arrange these links into a âTour / Getting Startedâ page. This allow new visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content in âTour / Getting Startedâ every x number of months. Also track and improve the conversion rate from âTour / Getting Startedâ to the download page. 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what users search for. I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics admin account when done. Hi Jacques, We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed for Wiki contribution. Regards, James Yong On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... > > I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could open the access to all Wiki contributors. > > Jacques > > > Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : > > Hi Jacques, > > > > as I have already mentioned > > > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to get > > out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > > > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > > > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, if > > we have a plan. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael > > > > > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > >> > >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > >> > >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy > >> Policy page. ") > >> > >> So? > >> > >> Jacques > >> > >> > >> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>> What are others opinions? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>> > >>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. > >>>> > >>>> Pierre Smits > >>>> > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>> > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>>> > >>>>>> It seems we need to: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - > >>>>>> our own) > >>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of > >>>>>> our project. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Just a feeling, or? > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Pierre Smits > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it's OK, > >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks James, > >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira > >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. > >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- > >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of > >>>>>>>>> Service at > >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a > >>>>>>>>> Privacy > >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect > >>>>>>>>> anonymous data. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>>>>>>> add-on" at > >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to > >>>>>>>>> participate > >>>>>>>>> or be tracked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> taher wrote > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information > >>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need > >>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from > >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our > >>>>>>>>>> objective > >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per > >>>>>>>>>> page? > >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we > >>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the > >>>>>>>>>> trouble > >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection > >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < > >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics > >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss > >>>>>>>>>>> this here before > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" > >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only > >>>>>>>>>>>> there. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather > >>>>>>>>>>>>> info > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> give > >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
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Hi James,
First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on it. What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get more landings on our relevant pages. I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus on it. For example you specify information like: - what is the statistical data to track? - what actions to take based on this data? - what structural changes need to happen in our pages - what content changes need to happen in our pages? - How will this information be shared with the community? - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to fine-tune our pages? - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? Cheers, Taher Alkhateeb On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Michael, My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download page. 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what users search for. I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics admin account when done. Hi Jacques, We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed for Wiki contribution. Regards, James Yong On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... > > I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could open the access to all Wiki contributors. > > Jacques > > > Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : > > Hi Jacques, > > > > as I have already mentioned > > > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common get > > out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > > > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > > > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, if > > we have a plan. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael > > > > > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > >> > >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > >> > >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by > >> Policy page. ") > >> > >> So? > >> > >> Jacques > >> > >> > >> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>> What are others opinions? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>> > >>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. > >>>> > >>>> Pierre Smits > >>>> > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>> > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>>> > >>>>>> It seems we need to: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not > >>>>>> our own) > >>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of > >>>>>> our project. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Just a feeling, or? > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Pierre Smits > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it's OK, > >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks James, > >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira > >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. > >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- > >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms > >>>>>>>>> Service at > >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a > >>>>>>>>> Privacy > >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect > >>>>>>>>> anonymous data. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>>>>>>> add-on" at > >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to > >>>>>>>>> participate > >>>>>>>>> or be tracked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> taher wrote > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user > >>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need > >>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from > >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our > >>>>>>>>>> objective > >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per > >>>>>>>>>> page? > >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we > >>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the > >>>>>>>>>> trouble > >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection > >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < > >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the > >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss > >>>>>>>>>>> this here before > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no > >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only > >>>>>>>>>>>> there. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather > >>>>>>>>>>>>> info > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> give > >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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Hi Taher,
Ok, I will also put them in wiki. Thank you for the review. Regards, James Yong On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi James, > > First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on > it. > > What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of > statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get > more landings on our relevant pages. > > I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus > on it. For example you specify information like: > - what is the statistical data to track? > - what actions to take based on this data? > - what structural changes need to happen in our pages > - what content changes need to happen in our pages? > - How will this information be shared with the community? > - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to > fine-tune our pages? > - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? > > Cheers, > > Taher Alkhateeb > > On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the > development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: > > 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and > arrange these links into a âTour / Getting Startedâ page. This allow new > visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content > in âTour / Getting Startedâ every x number of months. Also track and > improve the conversion rate from âTour / Getting Startedâ to the download > page. > 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better > roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what > users search for. > > I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics > admin account when done. > > Hi Jacques, > > We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed > for Wiki contribution. > > Regards, > James Yong > > On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... > > > > I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could > open the access to all Wiki contributors. > > > > Jacques > > > > > > Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : > > > Hi Jacques, > > > > > > as I have already mentioned > > > > > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common > understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to > get > > > out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If > there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > > > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > > > > > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > > > > > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to > Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, > if > > > we have a plan. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > > >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > > >> > > >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > > >> > > >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by > a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy > > >> Policy page. ") > > >> > > >> So? > > >> > > >> Jacques > > >> > > >> > > >> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > > >>> What are others opinions? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks > > >>> > > >>> Jacques > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : > > >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. > > >>>> > > >>>> Pierre Smits > > >>>> > > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > > >>>> > > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > > >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> It seems we need to: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not > sufficient - > > >>>>>> our own) > > >>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie > policies). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out > browser > > >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best > interest of > > >>>>>> our project. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> Just a feeling, or? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Jacques > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Best regards, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Pierre Smits > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it's OK, > > >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best > way? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Jacques > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks James, > > >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira > > >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. > > >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- > > >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Jacques > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms > of > > >>>>>>>>> Service at > > >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post > a > > >>>>>>>>> Privacy > > >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to > collect > > >>>>>>>>> anonymous data. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out > browser > > >>>>>>>>> add-on" at > > >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to > > >>>>>>>>> participate > > >>>>>>>>> or be tracked. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>>>> James Yong > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> taher wrote > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user > information > > >>>>>>>>>> like > > >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do > we need > > >>>>>>>>>> any > > >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need > input from > > >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is > our > > >>>>>>>>>> objective > > >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit > count per > > >>>>>>>>>> page? > > >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? > Do we > > >>>>>>>>>> create > > >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want > to do > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> how > > >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going > to the > > >>>>>>>>>> trouble > > >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection > > >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < > > >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the > analytics > > >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we > need to > > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss > > >>>>>>>>>>> this here before > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no > spam" > > >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages > and only > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest > the use of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee > to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> info > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed > wiki pages > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> give > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited > manpower. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > > >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Looking forward Jacques Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit : > Hi Taher, > > Ok, I will also put them in wiki. > Thank you for the review. > > Regards, > James Yong > > On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi James, >> >> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on >> it. >> >> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of >> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get >> more landings on our relevant pages. >> >> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus >> on it. For example you specify information like: >> - what is the statistical data to track? >> - what actions to take based on this data? >> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages >> - what content changes need to happen in our pages? >> - How will this information be shared with the community? >> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to >> fine-tune our pages? >> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Taher Alkhateeb >> >> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the >> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: >> >> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and >> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new >> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content >> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and >> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download >> page. >> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better >> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what >> users search for. >> >> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics >> admin account when done. >> >> Hi Jacques, >> >> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed >> for Wiki contribution. >> >> Regards, >> James Yong >> >> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... >>> >>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could >> open the access to all Wiki contributors. >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : >>>> Hi Jacques, >>>> >>>> as I have already mentioned >>>> >>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >> get >>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>>> >>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>>> >>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, >> if >>>> we have a plan. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>>>> >>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>>> >>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by >> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>>> Policy page. ") >>>>> >>>>> So? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>> What are others opinions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >> sufficient - >>>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >> policies). >>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >> browser >>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >> interest of >>>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best >> way? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms >> of >>>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >> a >>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >> collect >>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out >> browser >>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >> information >>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >> we need >>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need >> input from >>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >> our >>>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit >> count per >>>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? >> Do we >>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want >> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going >> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we >> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages >> and only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest >> the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed >> wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> |
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What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ? Thanks Jacques Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit : > Hi Taher, > > Ok, I will also put them in wiki. > Thank you for the review. > > Regards, > James Yong > > On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi James, >> >> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on >> it. >> >> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of >> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get >> more landings on our relevant pages. >> >> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus >> on it. For example you specify information like: >> - what is the statistical data to track? >> - what actions to take based on this data? >> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages >> - what content changes need to happen in our pages? >> - How will this information be shared with the community? >> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to >> fine-tune our pages? >> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Taher Alkhateeb >> >> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the >> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: >> >> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and >> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new >> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content >> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and >> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download >> page. >> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better >> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what >> users search for. >> >> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics >> admin account when done. >> >> Hi Jacques, >> >> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed >> for Wiki contribution. >> >> Regards, >> James Yong >> >> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... >>> >>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could >> open the access to all Wiki contributors. >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : >>>> Hi Jacques, >>>> >>>> as I have already mentioned >>>> >>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >> get >>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>>> >>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>>> >>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, >> if >>>> we have a plan. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>>>> >>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>>> >>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by >> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>>> Policy page. ") >>>>> >>>>> So? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>> What are others opinions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >> sufficient - >>>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >> policies). >>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >> browser >>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >> interest of >>>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best >> way? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms >> of >>>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >> a >>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >> collect >>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out >> browser >>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >> information >>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >> we need >>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need >> input from >>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >> our >>>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit >> count per >>>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? >> Do we >>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want >> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going >> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we >> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages >> and only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest >> the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed >> wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> |
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Jacques Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Hi James, All, > > What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ? > > Thanks > > Jacques > > > Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit : >> Hi Taher, >> >> Ok, I will also put them in wiki. >> Thank you for the review. >> >> Regards, >> James Yong >> >> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi James, >>> >>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on >>> it. >>> >>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of >>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get >>> more landings on our relevant pages. >>> >>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus >>> on it. For example you specify information like: >>> - what is the statistical data to track? >>> - what actions to take based on this data? >>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages >>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages? >>> - How will this information be shared with the community? >>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to >>> fine-tune our pages? >>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Taher Alkhateeb >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the >>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: >>> >>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and >>> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new >>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content >>> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and >>> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download >>> page. >>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better >>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what >>> users search for. >>> >>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics >>> admin account when done. >>> >>> Hi Jacques, >>> >>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed >>> for Wiki contribution. >>> >>> Regards, >>> James Yong >>> >>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... >>>> >>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could >>> open the access to all Wiki contributors. >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : >>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>> >>>>> as I have already mentioned >>>>> >>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >>> get >>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>>>> >>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, >>> if >>>>> we have a plan. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>>>>> >>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>>>> >>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by >>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>>>> Policy page. ") >>>>>> >>>>>> So? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>> What are others opinions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>> sufficient - >>>>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>> policies). >>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>> browser >>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >>> interest of >>>>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best >>> way? >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms >>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >>> collect >>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out >>> browser >>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>> information >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >>> we need >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need >>> input from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit >>> count per >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? >>> Do we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want >>> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going >>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we >>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages >>> and only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest >>> the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed >>> wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > > |
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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Hi Jacques,
Sorry for my late reply. Thanks for closing the infra issue. I was side-tracked by other work and not able to work on it yet. As there were discussion on an alternative like PIWIK, we can take some time to look into it? Regards, James On 2017-06-28 21:56 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > Closed > > Jacques > > > Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > > Hi James, All, > > > > What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jacques > > > > > > Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit : > >> Hi Taher, > >> > >> Ok, I will also put them in wiki. > >> Thank you for the review. > >> > >> Regards, > >> James Yong > >> > >> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> Hi James, > >>> > >>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on > >>> it. > >>> > >>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of > >>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get > >>> more landings on our relevant pages. > >>> > >>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus > >>> on it. For example you specify information like: > >>> - what is the statistical data to track? > >>> - what actions to take based on this data? > >>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages > >>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages? > >>> - How will this information be shared with the community? > >>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to > >>> fine-tune our pages? > >>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Taher Alkhateeb > >>> > >>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Michael, > >>> > >>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the > >>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: > >>> > >>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and > >>> arrange these links into a ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ page. This allow new > >>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content > >>> in ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ every x number of months. Also track and > >>> improve the conversion rate from ââ¬ËTour / Getting Startedââ¬â¢ to the download > >>> page. > >>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better > >>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what > >>> users search for. > >>> > >>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics > >>> admin account when done. > >>> > >>> Hi Jacques, > >>> > >>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed > >>> for Wiki contribution. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> James Yong > >>> > >>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Hi Michael, > >>>> > >>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... > >>>> > >>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could > >>> open the access to all Wiki contributors. > >>>> Jacques > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : > >>>>> Hi Jacques, > >>>>> > >>>>> as I have already mentioned > >>>>> > >>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common > >>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to > >>> get > >>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If > >>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > >>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] > >>>>> > >>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? > >>>>> > >>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to > >>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, > >>> if > >>>>> we have a plan. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Michael > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > >>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by > >>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy > >>>>>> Policy page. ") > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>> What are others opinions? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not > >>> sufficient - > >>>>>>>>>> our own) > >>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie > >>> policies). > >>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out > >>> browser > >>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best > >>> interest of > >>>>>>>>>> our project. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So it's OK, > >>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best > >>> way? > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James, > >>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira > >>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. > >>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- > >>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms > >>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post > >>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to > >>> collect > >>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out > >>> browser > >>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> participate > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user > >>> information > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do > >>> we need > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need > >>> input from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is > >>> our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit > >>> count per > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? > >>> Do we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want > >>> to do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going > >>> to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the > >>> analytics > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we > >>> need to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no > >>> spam" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages > >>> and only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest > >>> the use of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed > >>> wiki pages > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited > >>> manpower. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at > >>> Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > > > > > > |
Re: Using Google Analytics in Confluence
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Hi James,
Yes sure, nothing presses. Jacques Le 28/06/2017 à 16:24, James Yong a écrit : > Hi Jacques, > > Sorry for my late reply. > Thanks for closing the infra issue. > I was side-tracked by other work and not able to work on it yet. > As there were discussion on an alternative like PIWIK, > we can take some time to look into it? > > Regards, > James > > On 2017-06-28 21:56 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Closed >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 18/06/2017 à 17:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> Hi James, All, >>> >>> What is the status here, I think I can at least close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701, right ? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 28/04/2017 à 10:20, James Yong a écrit : >>>> Hi Taher, >>>> >>>> Ok, I will also put them in wiki. >>>> Thank you for the review. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> James Yong >>>> >>>> On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> Hi James, >>>>> >>>>> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of >>>>> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get >>>>> more landings on our relevant pages. >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus >>>>> on it. For example you specify information like: >>>>> - what is the statistical data to track? >>>>> - what actions to take based on this data? >>>>> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages >>>>> - what content changes need to happen in our pages? >>>>> - How will this information be shared with the community? >>>>> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to >>>>> fine-tune our pages? >>>>> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Taher Alkhateeb >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>> >>>>> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the >>>>> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and >>>>> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new >>>>> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info. Can update the content >>>>> in ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and >>>>> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download >>>>> page. >>>>> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better >>>>> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what >>>>> users search for. >>>>> >>>>> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics >>>>> admin account when done. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>> >>>>> We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed >>>>> for Wiki contribution. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> James Yong >>>>> >>>>> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes... >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could >>>>> open the access to all Wiki contributors. >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit : >>>>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as I have already mentioned >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >>>>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >>>>> get >>>>>>> out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >>>>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>>>>>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >>>>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, >>>>> if >>>>>>> we have a plan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>>>>>>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by >>>>> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>>>>>> Policy page. ") >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>> What are others opinions? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>> sufficient - >>>>>>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>> policies). >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>> browser >>>>>>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >>>>> interest of >>>>>>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best >>>>> way? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms >>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out >>>>> browser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >>>>> we need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need >>>>> input from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit >>>>> count per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? >>>>> Do we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want >>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going >>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we >>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages >>>>> and only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest >>>>> the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed >>>>> wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at >>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> |
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