We're Hiring: Software Developers and Project Manager

[Si Chen-2]

Hi everybody,

We (Open Source Strategies) are looking to hire for at least two
additional full-time positions:

1.  Software developer: we're looking for someone with significant Java
web applications development experience to help with Web 2.0 user
interfaces and business intelligence for opentaps.
2.  Project manager: someone with ERP and CRM implementation project
management experience who will be involved with both implementing
opentaps and charting a direction for it.  For the project manager
position, we need some who would be based out of Los Angeles and be able
to travel to client sites.

If you are interested, please e-mail me directly at sichen AT
opensourcestrategies DOT com

Thanks.

Si

[Jacopo Cappellato]

It seems to me that this message is off topic for the OFBiz lists (both
user and dev) because there isn't anything in it about OFBiz... we
should all try (especially the committers or, in general, the persons
more involved in the project) to avoid to add further confusion in this
project about the differences duality of Opentaps and OFBiz.

Si, from recent discussions in the Opentaps forums you have clearly
expressed the following concept (that is opinable, but I respect it):
Opentaps is totally different from OFBiz and just uses some parts of
OFBiz in the same way it uses other open source projects... so now I am
a bit confused... why are you interested in hiring people from the OFBiz
community?

Jacopo


Si Chen wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> We (Open Source Strategies) are looking to hire for at least two
> additional full-time positions:
>
> 1.  Software developer: we're looking for someone with significant Java
> web applications development experience to help with Web 2.0 user
> interfaces and business intelligence for opentaps. 2.  Project manager:
> someone with ERP and CRM implementation project management experience
> who will be involved with both implementing opentaps and charting a
> direction for it.  For the project manager position, we need some who
> would be based out of Los Angeles and be able to travel to client sites.
>
> If you are interested, please e-mail me directly at sichen AT
> opensourcestrategies DOT com
>
> Thanks.
>
> Si

[Scott Gray]

Hi Jacopo

You might do well to cc Si in on your email just in case he isn't subscribed
to either of the lists, it would be strange for a committer to not be, but
there is always the possibility.

Regards
Scott

On 22/02/2008, Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> It seems to me that this message is off topic for the OFBiz lists (both
> user and dev) because there isn't anything in it about OFBiz... we
> should all try (especially the committers or, in general, the persons
> more involved in the project) to avoid to add further confusion in this
> project about the differences duality of Opentaps and OFBiz.
>
> Si, from recent discussions in the Opentaps forums you have clearly
> expressed the following concept (that is opinable, but I respect it):
> Opentaps is totally different from OFBiz and just uses some parts of
> OFBiz in the same way it uses other open source projects... so now I am
> a bit confused... why are you interested in hiring people from the OFBiz
> community?
>
>
> Jacopo
>
>
>
> Si Chen wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > We (Open Source Strategies) are looking to hire for at least two
> > additional full-time positions:
> >
> > 1.  Software developer: we're looking for someone with significant Java
> > web applications development experience to help with Web 2.0 user
> > interfaces and business intelligence for opentaps. 2.  Project manager:
> > someone with ERP and CRM implementation project management experience
> > who will be involved with both implementing opentaps and charting a
> > direction for it.  For the project manager position, we need some who
> > would be based out of Los Angeles and be able to travel to client sites.
> >
> > If you are interested, please e-mail me directly at sichen AT
> > opensourcestrategies DOT com
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Si
>
>

[David E Jones]

You might be right Scott, as in this email Si requested people contact  
him at "sichen AT opensourcestrategies DOT com".

I'd actually be interested in seeing something good/helpful come out  
of this thread... who "else" in the OFBiz community is hiring or has  
recently, and how are you going about it?

To get the ball rolling: at Hotwax Media we've been hiring and  
training quite a few people and getting ourselves organized in order  
to work more effectively with growth in demand and resources. I could  
write quite a bit about that how we're organizing and running things  
to leverage a wide range of skill sets and experience with those skill  
sets, and it's been really interesting and we like where we're going  
now in our second iteration (ie initial organization and one phase of  
refinement), but that's not really the point of this thread at the  
minute.

Anyway, our "crew" is now made up by about 42 employees and 4 outside  
consultants working mostly full-time (but spread around the world and  
hence the logistics of employment are difficult... to put it mildly).  
We're hiring by looking around the in community and approaching people  
directly, as well as by hiring and training. We're finding good  
success hiring junior developers, training them for a few weeks and  
then doing "practice" development for a few months, and then we get  
them on billing projects. In order to do this we have separate  
analysis and review groups that keep planning on course and results  
checked on frequently (and QA'ed preemptively). Anyone who has looked  
at names and other information about Hotwax has probably noticed we  
have people in the US and Europe, and quite a few people in India.  
This sort of dual model is working well so far, and I'm pleased with  
how this training process and other things are allowing us to  
contribute to OFBiz and collaborate to pursue new objectives.

On a side note, I was kind of looking for a reason to explain this to  
others involved in OFBiz because I feel bad about not contributing as  
much or being as involved as I used to... or at least not directly. I  
remember walking with Hans Bakker in Phuket, Thailand in 2004 and him  
expressing how strongly he felt about how usually it is more valuable  
to get someone else to do something than to do it on your own. Since  
then I've been trying to figure out how and when to do that, and along  
with the other people investing in the Hotwax organization this is  
really happening.

We're hiring fairly regularly now as we take on new contracts and  
pursue new opportunities and investments. I'm personally hesitant to  
solicit too much within the OFBiz community because I'd really like to  
see lots of really strong service providers collaborating. Still, if  
someone has an idea or opportunity that they would like to collaborate  
on, we should talk. Community-driven open source projects are great  
for collaboration on a software and design level, but also open up  
opportunities to work together to all grow and improve our  
organizations and there are probably lots of ways we could collaborate  
economically for the benefit of all, and of course OFBiz itself too  
along the way.

-David


On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

> Hi Jacopo
>
> You might do well to cc Si in on your email just in case he isn't  
> subscribed
> to either of the lists, it would be strange for a committer to not  
> be, but
> there is always the possibility.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 22/02/2008, Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> It seems to me that this message is off topic for the OFBiz lists  
>> (both
>> user and dev) because there isn't anything in it about OFBiz... we
>> should all try (especially the committers or, in general, the persons
>> more involved in the project) to avoid to add further confusion in  
>> this
>> project about the differences duality of Opentaps and OFBiz.
>>
>> Si, from recent discussions in the Opentaps forums you have clearly
>> expressed the following concept (that is opinable, but I respect it):
>> Opentaps is totally different from OFBiz and just uses some parts of
>> OFBiz in the same way it uses other open source projects... so now  
>> I am
>> a bit confused... why are you interested in hiring people from the  
>> OFBiz
>> community?
>>
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>>
>> Si Chen wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> We (Open Source Strategies) are looking to hire for at least two
>>> additional full-time positions:
>>>
>>> 1.  Software developer: we're looking for someone with significant  
>>> Java
>>> web applications development experience to help with Web 2.0 user
>>> interfaces and business intelligence for opentaps. 2.  Project  
>>> manager:
>>> someone with ERP and CRM implementation project management  
>>> experience
>>> who will be involved with both implementing opentaps and charting a
>>> direction for it.  For the project manager position, we need some  
>>> who
>>> would be based out of Los Angeles and be able to travel to client  
>>> sites.
>>>
>>> If you are interested, please e-mail me directly at sichen AT
>>> opensourcestrategies DOT com
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Si
>>
>>

[Adrian Crum-2]

David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote: On a side note, I was kind of looking for a reason to explain this to  
others involved in OFBiz because I feel bad about not contributing as  
much or being as involved as I used to... or at least not directly. I  
remember walking with Hans Bakker in Phuket, Thailand in 2004 and him  
expressing how strongly he felt about how usually it is more valuable  
to get someone else to do something than to do it on your own. Since  
then I've been trying to figure out how and when to do that, and along  
with the other people investing in the Hotwax organization this is  
really happening.

I agree with Hans - there is only so much one person can do. There has to be a time when you train others to do what you do and spread the work around.

It's not like your current participation has dropped off. Instead, you have planned for it by helping to get more committers on board, and like you said - your trainees are contributing work that you would normally do yourself. So, your participation is still just as strong, only now it's more indirect.

I've found your comments and suggestions very helpful. Your participation (even when limited) continues to keep the rest of us "on track."

-Adrian


       
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