"Work in Progress" as product type

[brijesh m]

Hi friends,
I have given the status of "work in progress"(WIP)  to the product in the intermediate stage of my manufacturing process. But after completion of its corresponding producing task this product(WIP) was not incremented in inventory. Is there any way out ?


Thanks
Brijesh M.  

       

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

This is the expected behavior: WIP products are not stocked in  
inventory, when a production run for a WIP product is completed, it  
just enables a dependent production run to start.
So you should never create a production run for a WIP alone.

Jacopo


On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:01 PM, brijesh m wrote:

> Hi friends,
> I have given the status of "work in progress"(WIP)  to the product  
> in the intermediate stage of my manufacturing process. But after  
> completion of its corresponding producing task this product(WIP) was  
> not incremented in inventory. Is there any way out ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Brijesh M.
>

[brijesh m]

thanks Jacopo for your reply. But the thing is that how can I can get the inventory added for my intermediate product which is very necessary. Also why "WIP" is present in the drop-down in the "Product-type" while searching for inventory at :
https://localhost:8443/facility/control/ViewFacilityInventoryByProduct
as you have told that it was just used to create a production run.


Thanks
Brijesh M

Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote: This is the expected behavior: WIP products are not stocked in  
inventory, when a production run for a WIP product is completed, it  
just enables a dependent production run to start.
So you should never create a production run for a WIP alone.

Jacopo


On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:01 PM, brijesh m wrote:

> Hi friends,
> I have given the status of "work in progress"(WIP)  to the product  
> in the intermediate stage of my manufacturing process. But after  
> completion of its corresponding producing task this product(WIP) was  
> not incremented in inventory. Is there any way out ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Brijesh M.
>

       

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

On Jul 27, 2008, at 5:54 PM, brijesh m wrote:

> thanks Jacopo for your reply. But the thing is that how can I can  
> get the inventory added for my intermediate product which is very  
> necessary.

If you want to put it on stock, then you should not use the WIP type.

> Also why "WIP" is present in the drop-down in the "Product-type"  
> while searching for inventory at :
> https://localhost:8443/facility/control/ViewFacilityInventoryByProduct
> as you have told that it was just used to create a production run.

We should remove that type from the dropdown.

Jacopo

>
>
>
> Thanks
> Brijesh M
>
> Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote: This is the  
> expected behavior: WIP products are not stocked in
> inventory, when a production run for a WIP product is completed, it
> just enables a dependent production run to start.
> So you should never create a production run for a WIP alone.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:01 PM, brijesh m wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>> I have given the status of "work in progress"(WIP)  to the product
>> in the intermediate stage of my manufacturing process. But after
>> completion of its corresponding producing task this product(WIP) was
>> not incremented in inventory. Is there any way out ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brijesh M.
>>
>
>
>

[brijesh m]

Hi Jacopo,
But if I will not use WIP then it is not possible for me to constitute the "mandatory-dependent" association for production runs as it is only done if I take WIP as product type (I have tested this). Please suggest the way out.

Thanks
Brijesh M.

Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Jul 27, 2008, at 5:54 PM, brijesh m wrote:

> thanks Jacopo for your reply. But the thing is that how can I can  
> get the inventory added for my intermediate product which is very  
> necessary.

If you want to put it on stock, then you should not use the WIP type.

> Also why "WIP" is present in the drop-down in the "Product-type"  
> while searching for inventory at :
> https://localhost:8443/facility/control/ViewFacilityInventoryByProduct
> as you have told that it was just used to create a production run.

We should remove that type from the dropdown.

Jacopo

>
>
>
> Thanks
> Brijesh M
>
> Jacopo Cappellato  wrote: This is the  
> expected behavior: WIP products are not stocked in
> inventory, when a production run for a WIP product is completed, it
> just enables a dependent production run to start.
> So you should never create a production run for a WIP alone.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:01 PM, brijesh m wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>> I have given the status of "work in progress"(WIP)  to the product
>> in the intermediate stage of my manufacturing process. But after
>> completion of its corresponding producing task this product(WIP) was
>> not incremented in inventory. Is there any way out ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brijesh M.
>>
>
>
>

       

[Valentina Sirkova]

Hi Brijesh,

I think there is a way to constitute mandatory production runs without
making the product WIP.

If for example production run number1 has BOM consisting of
products(types finished good for example) B and C and on the other hand
production run number2 produces B as its end product then these to
production runs become dependent on one another.
This is because product B of the first production is waiting to get
produced by the second production so it could be finally used in the
first one.This results in mandatory production runs and inventory gets
increased.
Valentina

On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:12 -0700, brijesh m wrote:
> if I will not use WIP then it is not possible for me to constitute the
> "mandatory-dependent" association for production runs as it is only
> done if I take WIP as product type (I have tested this). Please
> suggest the way out.

[brijesh m]

Hi Valentina,
I have tried the way you have suggested but if you don't give product type as WIP then mandatory production run does not result into. Other than this if I create two seperate production runs then it is of no use because what if an organisation have 10-15 intermediate stages in manufacturing process then it has to run all the processes one by one which I think is not feasible. My aim is to create only one production run coresponding to the finished product and all the intermediate processes invokes automatically.  If you have done this sort of process then please share.

Thanks
Brijesh M.

Valentina Sirkova <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Brijesh,

I think there is a way to constitute mandatory production runs without
making the product WIP.

If for example production run number1 has BOM consisting of
products(types finished good for example) B and C and on the other hand
production run number2 produces B as its end product then these to
production runs become dependent on one another.
This is because product B of the first production is waiting to get
produced by the second production so it could be finally used in the
first one.This results in mandatory production runs and inventory gets
increased.
Valentina

On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:12 -0700, brijesh m wrote:
> if I will not use WIP then it is not possible for me to constitute the
> "mandatory-dependent" association for production runs as it is only
> done if I take WIP as product type (I have tested this). Please
> suggest the way out.





       

[BJ Freeman]

should take a look at the datamodel book Vol II
on Manufacturing.


brijesh m sent the following on 7/28/2008 6:57 AM:

> Hi Valentina,
> I have tried the way you have suggested but if you don't give product type as WIP then mandatory production run does not result into. Other than this if I create two seperate production runs then it is of no use because what if an organisation have 10-15 intermediate stages in manufacturing process then it has to run all the processes one by one which I think is not feasible. My aim is to create only one production run coresponding to the finished product and all the intermediate processes invokes automatically.  If you have done this sort of process then please share.
>
> Thanks
> Brijesh M.
>
> Valentina Sirkova <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Brijesh,
>
> I think there is a way to constitute mandatory production runs without
> making the product WIP.
>
> If for example production run number1 has BOM consisting of
> products(types finished good for example) B and C and on the other hand
> production run number2 produces B as its end product then these to
> production runs become dependent on one another.
> This is because product B of the first production is waiting to get
> produced by the second production so it could be finally used in the
> first one.This results in mandatory production runs and inventory gets
> increased.
> Valentina
>
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:12 -0700, brijesh m wrote:
>> if I will not use WIP then it is not possible for me to constitute the
>> "mandatory-dependent" association for production runs as it is only
>> done if I take WIP as product type (I have tested this). Please
>> suggest the way out.
>
>
>
>
>
>        

[BJ Freeman]

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release4.0/applications/manufacturing/src/org/ofbiz/manufacturing/mrp/ProposedOrder.java
here is code on how wip is handled.

From the book Part is part of a Product. Yet Part has been left out of
ofbiz. so It looks like Product is also used as part.
Also finishedGood parentnt is Good which is the way the book shows it.
However instead of rawmaterials and subassembly have a parent of Part.
they have Good as the parent.
Still working on how this all relates. but with a major deviation It may
take some time.
I would like to see the part entity applied to ofbiz. I think it will
make the manufacturing process clearer.


BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/28/2008 9:44 AM:

> should take a look at the datamodel book Vol II
> on Manufacturing.
>
>
> brijesh m sent the following on 7/28/2008 6:57 AM:
>> Hi Valentina,
>> I have tried the way you have suggested but if you don't give product type as WIP then mandatory production run does not result into. Other than this if I create two seperate production runs then it is of no use because what if an organisation have 10-15 intermediate stages in manufacturing process then it has to run all the processes one by one which I think is not feasible. My aim is to create only one production run coresponding to the finished product and all the intermediate processes invokes automatically.  If you have done this sort of process then please share.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brijesh M.
>>
>> Valentina Sirkova <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Brijesh,
>>
>> I think there is a way to constitute mandatory production runs without
>> making the product WIP.
>>
>> If for example production run number1 has BOM consisting of
>> products(types finished good for example) B and C and on the other hand
>> production run number2 produces B as its end product then these to
>> production runs become dependent on one another.
>> This is because product B of the first production is waiting to get
>> produced by the second production so it could be finally used in the
>> first one.This results in mandatory production runs and inventory gets
>> increased.
>> Valentina
>>
>> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:12 -0700, brijesh m wrote:
>>> if I will not use WIP then it is not possible for me to constitute the
>>> "mandatory-dependent" association for production runs as it is only
>>> done if I take WIP as product type (I have tested this). Please
>>> suggest the way out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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