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did this get added if so where.
once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man |
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Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, Language, and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme.
(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, but I have included a screenshot for reference)  On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
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User settings are in the footer.
-Adrian Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: > did this get added if so where. > once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > |
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on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without
scrolling. if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the header. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: > Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, Language, > and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. > > /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, but I have > included a screenshot for reference)/ > / > / > // > > *Ryan L. Foster* > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> > ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> did this get added if so where. >> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> > |
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The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on navigation.
Ryan L. Foster 801.671.0769 [hidden email] ryanlfoster.com On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without scrolling. > if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the header. > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, Language, >> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >> >> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, but I have >> included a screenshot for reference)/ >> / >> / >> // >> >> *Ryan L. Foster* >> 801.671.0769 >> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >> >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> did this get added if so where. >>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >> > |
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Agreed. I started using the original flat grey theme and never changed it.
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Foster <[hidden email]> wrote: > The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once.  A typical user will set their personal preferences and may never change it again.  Since this is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on navigation. > > Ryan L. Foster > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email] > ryanlfoster.com > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without scrolling. >> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the header. >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, Language, >>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>> >>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, but I have >>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>> / >>> / >>> // >>> >>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> did this get added if so where. >>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>> >> > > |
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Btw, the old Flat Grey theme is available in the Theme Gallery. It's
called Old School. https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBIZ/visual-themes-gallery.html -Adrian Quoting Mike <[hidden email]>: > Agreed. I started using the original flat grey theme and never changed it. > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Foster > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once.  A typical user will set >> their personal preferences and may never change it again.  Since >> this is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the >> footer, freeing up more screen space for the more important >> day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the header to put the >> focus on navigation. >> >> Ryan L. Foster >> 801.671.0769 >> [hidden email] >> ryanlfoster.com >> >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>> scrolling. >>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows >>> the header. >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>> Zone, Language, >>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>> >>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>> list, but I have >>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>> / >>>> / >>>> // >>>> >>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > |
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Thanks Adrian. I downloaded, installed, tested and comitted it to by
local trunk repository. I feel more at home with the backend interface now. Thanks. Let me know when you add "oldschool" back in [grin]. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:00 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > Btw, the old Flat Grey theme is available in the Theme Gallery. It's called > Old School. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBIZ/visual-themes-gallery.html > > -Adrian > > Quoting Mike <[hidden email]>: > >> Agreed.  I started using the original flat grey theme and never changed >> it. >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Foster <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> >>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time Zone, >>> Language, and Preferred Theme once.  A typical user will set their personal >>> preferences and may never change it again.  Since this is information is of >>> a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, freeing up more screen >>> space for the more important day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the >>> header to put the focus on navigation. >>> >>> Ryan L. Foster >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email] >>> ryanlfoster.com >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>> scrolling. >>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>> header. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>  <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>> >>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, >>>>> Language, >>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>> >>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, >>>>> but I have >>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>> / >>>>> / >>>>> // >>>>> >>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > |
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renamed the new flatgrey to newrtllayout
kept the orginal flatgrey as that name. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man [hidden email] sent the following on 1/31/2011 2:00 PM: > Btw, the old Flat Grey theme is available in the Theme Gallery. It's > called Old School. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBIZ/visual-themes-gallery.html > > -Adrian > > Quoting Mike <[hidden email]>: > >> Agreed. I started using the original flat grey theme and never changed >> it. >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Foster >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>> navigation. >>> >>> Ryan L. Foster >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email] >>> ryanlfoster.com >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>> scrolling. >>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>> header. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>> >>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>> list, but I have >>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>> / >>>>> / >>>>> // >>>>> >>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > |
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just a note:
under freeing up screen space add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real estate also. on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less screen space. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: > The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on navigation. > > Ryan L. Foster > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email] > ryanlfoster.com > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without scrolling. >> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the header. >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time Zone, Language, >>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>> >>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing list, but I have >>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>> / >>> / >>> // >>> >>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> did this get added if so where. >>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>> >> > > |
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One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old
Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was made as small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a bit, but at the cost of less work area space. -Adrian Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: > just a note: > under freeing up screen space > add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real estate also. > on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. > when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less > screen space. > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since >> this is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the >> footer, freeing up more screen space for the more important >> day-to-day information, and de-cluttering the header to put the >> focus on navigation. >> >> Ryan L. Foster >> 801.671.0769 >> [hidden email] >> ryanlfoster.com >> >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>> scrolling. >>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows >>> the header. >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>> Zone, Language, >>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>> >>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>> list, but I have >>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>> / >>>> / >>>> // >>>> >>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > |
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ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for the
oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real estate. just my 2 cnets ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 12:08 PM: > One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old > Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was made as > small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a bit, > but at the cost of less work area space. > > -Adrian > > Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: > >> just a note: >> under freeing up screen space >> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >> estate also. >> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >> screen space. >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>> navigation. >>> >>> Ryan L. Foster >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email] >>> ryanlfoster.com >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>> scrolling. >>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>> header. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>> >>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>> list, but I have >>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>> / >>>>> / >>>>> // >>>>> >>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > |
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Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the fold on the old vs. new.
I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did not have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. Ryan L. Foster 801.671.0769 [hidden email] ryanlfoster.com On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. > however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real estate. > > just my 2 cnets > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 12:08 PM: >> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was made as >> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a bit, >> but at the cost of less work area space. >> >> -Adrian >> >> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >> >>> just a note: >>> under freeing up screen space >>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>> estate also. >>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>> screen space. >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>> navigation. >>>> >>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> [hidden email] >>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>> scrolling. >>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>> header. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>> >>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>> / >>>>>> / >>>>>> // >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > |
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+1 for collapsing headers at large
Jacques Ryan Foster wrote: > Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old > School" (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat Grey), I believe there is actually more total > workspace area in the new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the fold on the old vs. new. > > I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. > That way, if you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period > of time and did not have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could collapse it out of the way and free up even > more screen space. > > Ryan L. Foster > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email] > ryanlfoster.com > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy >> to me. however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, >> and the real estate. >> >> just my 2 cnets >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 12:08 PM: >>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was made as >>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a bit, >>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> just a note: >>>> under freeing up screen space >>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>> estate also. >>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>> screen space. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>> navigation. >>>>> >>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>>> header. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>> / >>>>>>> / >>>>>>> // >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man |
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Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a
column. Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space. I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet. -Adrian Quoting Ryan Foster <[hidden email]>: > Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and > compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" > (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat > Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the > new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to > the fold on the old vs. new. > > I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in > to the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That > way, if you are working in a particular application such as the > Catalog Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time > and did not have an immediate need for the main application nav, you > could collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. > > Ryan L. Foster > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email] > ryanlfoster.com > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility >> for the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. >> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the >> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real >> estate. >> >> just my 2 cnets >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 12:08 PM: >>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was made as >>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a bit, >>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> just a note: >>>> under freeing up screen space >>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>> estate also. >>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>> screen space. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>> navigation. >>>>> >>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>>> header. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>> / >>>>>>> / >>>>>>> // >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest and greatest.
most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with. and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600 should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability to use the newer stuff? ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man [hidden email] sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:09 AM: > Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a column. > Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space. > > I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet. > > -Adrian > > Quoting Ryan Foster <[hidden email]>: > >> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and >> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" >> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat >> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the >> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the >> fold on the old vs. new. >> >> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to >> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if >> you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog >> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did not >> have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could >> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. >> >> Ryan L. Foster >> 801.671.0769 >> [hidden email] >> ryanlfoster.com >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for >>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. >>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the >>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real >>> estate. >>> >>> just my 2 cnets >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 >>> 12:08 PM: >>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was >>>> made as >>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a >>>> bit, >>>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>>> >>>> -Adrian >>>> >>>> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>>> just a note: >>>>> under freeing up screen space >>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>>> estate also. >>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>>> screen space. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>>> navigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>>>> header. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>> // >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > > > |
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We did design to the minimum. Flat Grey was tested down to IE7 on Windows XP at 800x600. Here is a screen shot.  On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:26 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
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<<W3Schools.com is for people with an interest for web technologies. This fact indicates that the figures below might not be 100% true for the average internet users. The average user might have a lower screen resolution.>> I think this is even most true when you speak about internal material. Despite that, I believe the trend is significant... Jacques BJ Freeman wrote: > how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest and greatest. > most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with. > and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600 > should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability to use > the newer stuff? > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > [hidden email] sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:09 AM: >> Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a column. >> Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space. >> >> I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet. >> >> -Adrian >> >> Quoting Ryan Foster <[hidden email]>: >> >>> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and >>> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" >>> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat >>> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the >>> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the >>> fold on the old vs. new. >>> >>> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to >>> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if >>> you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog >>> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did not >>> have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could >>> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. >>> >>> Ryan L. Foster >>> 801.671.0769 >>> [hidden email] >>> ryanlfoster.com >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for >>>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. >>>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the >>>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real >>>> estate. >>>> >>>> just my 2 cnets >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 >>>> 12:08 PM: >>>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >>>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was >>>>> made as >>>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a >>>>> bit, >>>>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>>>> >>>>> -Adrian >>>>> >>>>> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>>> just a note: >>>>>> under freeing up screen space >>>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>>>> estate also. >>>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>>>> screen space. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>>>> navigation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>>>>> header. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>> // >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man |
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along with that I have data collected from my five domain with awstats.
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:56 AM: > Trend: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp > <<W3Schools.com is for people with an interest for web technologies. > This fact indicates that the figures below might not be 100% true for > the average internet users. The average user might have a lower screen > resolution.>> > I think this is even most true when you speak about internal material. > Despite that, I believe the trend is significant... > > Jacques > > BJ Freeman wrote: >> how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest and >> greatest. >> most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with. >> and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600 >> should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability to use >> the newer stuff? >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/3/2011 >> 10:09 AM: >>> Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a column. >>> Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space. >>> >>> I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Quoting Ryan Foster <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and >>>> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" >>>> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat >>>> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the >>>> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the >>>> fold on the old vs. new. >>>> >>>> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to >>>> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if >>>> you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog >>>> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did not >>>> have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could >>>> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. >>>> >>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> [hidden email] >>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for >>>>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. >>>>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the >>>>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real >>>>> estate. >>>>> >>>>> just my 2 cnets >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [hidden email] sent the following on 2/2/2011 >>>>> 12:08 PM: >>>>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the >>>>>> old >>>>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was >>>>>> made as >>>>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a >>>>>> bit, >>>>>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> just a note: >>>>>>> under freeing up screen space >>>>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>>>>> estate also. >>>>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>>>>> screen space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the >>>>>>>> footer, >>>>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>>>>> navigation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser >>>>>>>>> shows the >>>>>>>>> header. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>> // >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > |
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here is the oldschool 800x600
========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Ryan Foster sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:43 AM: > We did design to the minimum. Flat Grey was tested down to IE7 on Windows XP at > 800x600. Here is a screen shot. > > > *Ryan L. Foster* > 801.671.0769 > [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> > ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:26 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: > >> how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest and greatest. >> most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with. >> and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600 >> should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability to use the >> newer stuff? >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >> sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:09 AM: >>> Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a column. >>> Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space. >>> >>> I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Quoting Ryan Foster<[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>: >>> >>>> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and >>>> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School" >>>> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat >>>> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the >>>> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to the >>>> fold on the old vs. new. >>>> >>>> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in to >>>> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if >>>> you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog >>>> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did not >>>> have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could >>>> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space. >>>> >>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>> 801.671.0769 >>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility for >>>>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me. >>>>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the >>>>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real >>>>> estate. >>>>> >>>>> just my 2 cnets >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> <mailto:[hidden email]> sent the following on 2/2/2011 >>>>> 12:08 PM: >>>>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of the old >>>>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was >>>>>> made as >>>>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things a >>>>>> bit, >>>>>> but at the cost of less work area space. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting BJ Freeman<[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> just a note: >>>>>>> under freeing up screen space >>>>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real >>>>>>> estate also. >>>>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space. >>>>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have less >>>>>>> screen space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM: >>>>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their Time >>>>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will set >>>>>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since this >>>>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the footer, >>>>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day >>>>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on >>>>>>>> navigation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster >>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom, without >>>>>>>>> scrolling. >>>>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser shows the >>>>>>>>> header. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>>>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM: >>>>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including Time >>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language, >>>>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the mailing >>>>>>>>>> list, but I have >>>>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/ >>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>> // >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster* >>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> did this get added if so where. >>>>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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