demo store look and feel

[Chris Snow-3]

The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)

Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?

Many thanks,

Chris

[BJ Freeman]

sure just create a theme.
or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.


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Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:

> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>
> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

you can use
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3490
to create a new theme by copying then go in and make changes so it works
 with the ecommerce side


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BJ Freeman sent the following on 3/25/2010 5:00 PM:

> sure just create a theme.
> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Linkedin
> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>
>
> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>
>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Wow, that was easy  ;-)
Regards,
Ruth

BJ Freeman wrote:

> you can use
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3490
> to create a new theme by copying then go in and make changes so it works
>  with the ecommerce side
>
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Linkedin
> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 3/25/2010 5:00 PM:
>  
>> sure just create a theme.
>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>    
>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>
>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>
>>    
>
>
>
>  

[BJ Freeman]

if I figured he was a end user would have approached it from a different
angle. :D

as my dad use to say it is something any 5yr can do with 20 yrs experience.

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Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 3/25/2010 5:17 PM:

> Wow, that was easy  ;-)
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> you can use
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3490
>> to create a new theme by copying then go in and make changes so it works
>>  with the ecommerce side
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 3/25/2010 5:00 PM:
>>  
>>> sure just create a theme.
>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Linkedin
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>    
>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as
>>>> magento
>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>

[Chris Snow-3]

My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look
and feel be accepted into trunk?'

BJ Freeman wrote:

> sure just create a theme.
> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Linkedin
> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>
>
> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>  
>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>
>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>  

[Bruno Busco]

We already have an alternative theme for the ecommerce application in the
trunk.
It is called multiflex.
May be we could spend some time to improve it and make it the default
ecommerce theme.

-Bruno

2010/3/26 Christopher Snow <[hidden email]>

> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and
> feel be accepted into trunk?'
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> sure just create a theme.
>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>> >
>>
>>
>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>
>>
>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>
>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Chris Snow-3]

Hi Bruno,

How do I configure the ecommerce store to try this?

Many thanks,

Chris

Bruno Busco wrote:

> We already have an alternative theme for the ecommerce application in the
> trunk.
> It is called multiflex.
> May be we could spend some time to improve it and make it the default
> ecommerce theme.
>
> -Bruno
>
> 2010/3/26 Christopher Snow <[hidden email]>
>
>  
>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and
>> feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>    
>>> sure just create a theme.
>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Linkedin
>>> <
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>      
>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>    
>
>  

[Chris Snow-3]

I've found how to do it.  Yes, that look and feel is **much** nicer!

Christopher Snow wrote:

> Hi Bruno,
>
> How do I configure the ecommerce store to try this?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> Bruno Busco wrote:
>> We already have an alternative theme for the ecommerce application in
>> the
>> trunk.
>> It is called multiflex.
>> May be we could spend some time to improve it and make it the default
>> ecommerce theme.
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2010/3/26 Christopher Snow <[hidden email]>
>>
>>  
>>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento
>>> look and
>>> feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>> sure just create a theme.
>>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>> Linkedin
>>>> <
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro 
>>>>
>>>>       Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as
>>>>> magento
>>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>    
>>
>>  
>

[Bruno Busco]

Ah,
you beated me! I was going to tell you how...

Yes, it is something I introduced a while ago.
It needs to be fixed in several parts but could be a better presentation for
the OFBiz ecommerce feature.

Erik,
could we think to work a little bit on it?

-Bruno

2010/3/26 Christopher Snow <[hidden email]>

> I've found how to do it.  Yes, that look and feel is **much** nicer!
>
>
> Christopher Snow wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruno,
>>
>> How do I configure the ecommerce store to try this?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Bruno Busco wrote:
>>
>>> We already have an alternative theme for the ecommerce application in the
>>> trunk.
>>> It is called multiflex.
>>> May be we could spend some time to improve it and make it the default
>>> ecommerce theme.
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2010/3/26 Christopher Snow <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look
>>>> and
>>>> feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> sure just create a theme.
>>>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>> Linkedin
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>      Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as
>>>>>> magento
>>>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[Scott Gray-2]

I don't think there is a problem with copying the visual aspects of another application but you absolutely couldn't copy (or really even look at) any of their code because of the license.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 25/03/2010, at 10:37 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:

> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and feel be accepted into trunk?'
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> sure just create a theme.
>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>  
>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>
>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>
>>  
>

[BJ Freeman]

from past case law, with zerox, microsoft, apple.
look and feel can be copyrighted.


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Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 5:39 PM:

> I don't think there is a problem with copying the visual aspects of another application but you absolutely couldn't copy (or really even look at) any of their code because of the license.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 25/03/2010, at 10:37 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
>
>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> sure just create a theme.
>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Linkedin
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>  
>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>>  
>

[Scott Gray-2]

Reference?

On 26/03/2010, at 7:04 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> from past case law, with zerox, microsoft, apple.
> look and feel can be copyrighted.
>
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Linkedin
> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>
>
> Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 5:39 PM:
>> I don't think there is a problem with copying the visual aspects of another application but you absolutely couldn't copy (or really even look at) any of their code because of the license.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> On 25/03/2010, at 10:37 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
>>
>>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> sure just create a theme.
>>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>> Linkedin
>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

google case law look and feel


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/int-prop/software-copyright.html
http://www.law.berkeley.edu/journals/btlj/articles/vol4/Wrenn/HTML/text.html


This was a complex decision in which the copyright infringement claims
for the various elements of the desktop were thrown out on a variety of
grounds. One important basis for the ruling was the court's finding that
the appropriate standard to apply was whether the two GUI presentations
were "virtually identical," whereas Apple had argued that the
appropriate standard was "substantial similarity."

Computer programs manifest themselves in any number of ways. 10
Similarly, the term "look and feel," also known as "total concept and
feel," has been used by copyright law in a number of contexts. 11
Applied to computer software, it has been used in reference to the look
and feel of written program instructions 12 as well as the look and feel
of a program's audiovisual displays. 13 This comment is concerned only
with the latter. This section will describe the technology at issue and
consider it within its market context.


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Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 7:55 PM:

> Reference?
>
> On 26/03/2010, at 7:04 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> from past case law, with zerox, microsoft, apple.
>> look and feel can be copyrighted.
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>> Linkedin
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 5:39 PM:
>>> I don't think there is a problem with copying the visual aspects of another application but you absolutely couldn't copy (or really even look at) any of their code because of the license.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> On 25/03/2010, at 10:37 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
>>>
>>>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and feel be accepted into trunk?'
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>> sure just create a theme.
>>>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =========================
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>
>>>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>> Linkedin
>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>

[Ryan Foster]

Legal or not, in my opinion copying the look and feel of a direct competitor such as Magento is ethically gray at best, downright shady at worst.  I definitely agree with Christopher that the demo store looks tired compared to Magento's but simply copying their default theme doesn't speak much to our project's credibility.  The OFBiz community has more than enough talent to analyze what the the Magento front-end does well and duplicate that without copying their look and feel screen for screen.

Ryan Foster
HotWax Media
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On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:50 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> google case law look and feel
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation
> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/int-prop/software-copyright.html
> http://www.law.berkeley.edu/journals/btlj/articles/vol4/Wrenn/HTML/text.html
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> This was a complex decision in which the copyright infringement claims
> for the various elements of the desktop were thrown out on a variety of
> grounds. One important basis for the ruling was the court's finding that
> the appropriate standard to apply was whether the two GUI presentations
> were "virtually identical," whereas Apple had argued that the
> appropriate standard was "substantial similarity."
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> Computer programs manifest themselves in any number of ways. 10
> Similarly, the term "look and feel," also known as "total concept and
> feel," has been used by copyright law in a number of contexts. 11
> Applied to computer software, it has been used in reference to the look
> and feel of written program instructions 12 as well as the look and feel
> of a program's audiovisual displays. 13 This comment is concerned only
> with the latter. This section will describe the technology at issue and
> consider it within its market context.
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> Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 7:55 PM:
>> Reference?
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>> On 26/03/2010, at 7:04 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
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>>> from past case law, with zerox, microsoft, apple.
>>> look and feel can be copyrighted.
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>>> BJ Freeman
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>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 3/26/2010 5:39 PM:
>>>> I don't think there is a problem with copying the visual aspects of another application but you absolutely couldn't copy (or really even look at) any of their code because of the license.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
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>>>> On 25/03/2010, at 10:37 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
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>>>>> My question was more along the lines of: 'Would a "rip" of magento look and feel be accepted into trunk?'
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>>>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>> sure just create a theme.
>>>>>> or take a couple from the backend and make them for ecommerce.
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>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
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>>>>>> Christopher Snow sent the following on 3/25/2010 4:42 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ofbiz demo store looks very tired compared to stores such as magento
>>>>>>> commerce demo (http://demo.magentocommerce.com/)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone considered "copying" magento's look and feel for ofbiz?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
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