hopefully it will be consistent enough to make test cases for each then
run time from end to end. ========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> chris snow sent the following on 5/26/2010 3:19 AM: > That's why I am focusing on improving the help / documentation! > > On 26 May 2010 10:49, "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > ah the crux of the problem. > we have some but it really needs to be fleshed out. > here is a place to start > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/OFBiz+End+User+Docs+Home > > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Suppl... > chris snow sent the following on 5/26/2010 2:40 AM: > >> User manual would be a good basis, if it describes ui processes. Where can >> I find the user manu... > >> On 26 May 2010 10:30, "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> forgot >> should use User manu... >> Strategic Power Office with Suppli... > >> BJ Freeman sent the following on 5/26/2010 2:18 AM: >> >>> Chris there are many ways to test. >>> I see selenium more as business logic to data test using the ... > >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http:/... > >>> chris snow sent the following on 5/25/2010 9:12 PM: >>>> Hi BJ - i'd like to start adding selenium t... > >>>> we need button pusher and business that need to accomplish a task. >>>> one of the top level testin... > |
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Hi BJ:
If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in production. Regards, Ruth ---------------------------------------------------- Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" [hidden email] BJ Freeman wrote: > forgot > should use User manual as the test case. > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > BJ Freeman sent the following on 5/26/2010 2:18 AM: > >> Chris there are many ways to test. >> I see selenium more as business logic to data test using the available UI. >> It test real world interaction with the user of ofbiz. >> here is one scenario >> Place an order(ecoomerce or Orderentry) >> send product >> view the GL for expected results (through the UI). >> >> For PO >> Place an order(Orderentry) >> receive product >> pay supplier >> check GL for expected results(through the UI) >> Now this test all underlying code and if the user can use the results >> for business. >> >> you can break this down to component tests if you like but the end goal >> is totest user ability to have a functional system. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >> >> >> chris snow sent the following on 5/25/2010 9:12 PM: >> >>> Hi BJ - i'd like to start adding selenium tests, however, before adding >>> selenium tests, test cases need to be created. To create test cases, process >>> flows need to be understood/documented (I'm still at the understanding stage >>> hence my work on the help system). So in conclusion only those with >>> detailed knowledge of ofbiz processes can start adding selenium tests (only >>> a few people?). >>> >>> On 26 May 2010 03:18, "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> we need button pusher and business that need to accomplish a task. >>> one of the top level testing tools is selenium >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3511 >>> your welcome to add to the library. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < >>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> < >>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>> >>> >>> Matt Warnock sent the following on 5/25/2010 6:40 PM: >>> >>>> Based on encouraging comments from you and Jacopo and others, and seeing >>>> the rate at which new commits are added, I am thinking it may be best to >>>> get on the trunk, even for production. However I can't imagine running >>>> nightly builds on a production server. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking I'd build nightly on the development laptop, and update the >>>> production server every week or two, to a fairly recent, more-or-less >>>> "known good" revision level. I'm hoping this would provide the best of >>>> both worlds. And I'm hoping that this would avoid any mission-critical >>>> breakages until the fixes have been committed. Does that seem >>>> reasonable? >>>> >>>> I don't kid myself that I can submit much code yet, but hopefully I can >>>> help test and document bugs, even if I can't fix them yet. Hopefully >>>> that will come soon. >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > > |
Le 26/05/2010 16:27, Ruth Hoffman a écrit :
> Hi BJ: > If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some > test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case > scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. > I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in production. > Hi Ruth, you can just put your tests in the jira issue, and they will be converted to the latest OFBiz version. I'm sure there are some people willing to do this ! Cheers, -- Erwan de FERRIERES www.nereide.biz |
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Selenium IDE is in your browser and you can save your process.
you can create them on 9.04 and use to test them on the trunk. you can have a folder for 9.04 and one for 10.04 using demo-stable or trunk. but I would suggest you just start with 9.04 and label as such in the filehnames then put them in the repository. then we have a test against 10.04 and the trunk as to what has changed from a users point of view. I will put the port on my list of lists of lists to do. ========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 5/26/2010 7:27 AM: > Hi BJ: > If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some > test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case > scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. > I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in production. > > Regards, > Ruth > ---------------------------------------------------- > Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" > [hidden email] > > > BJ Freeman wrote: >> forgot >> should use User manual as the test case. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >> >> >> >> BJ Freeman sent the following on 5/26/2010 2:18 AM: >> >>> Chris there are many ways to test. >>> I see selenium more as business logic to data test using the >>> available UI. >>> It test real world interaction with the user of ofbiz. >>> here is one scenario >>> Place an order(ecoomerce or Orderentry) >>> send product >>> view the GL for expected results (through the UI). >>> >>> For PO >>> Place an order(Orderentry) >>> receive product >>> pay supplier >>> check GL for expected results(through the UI) >>> Now this test all underlying code and if the user can use the results >>> for business. >>> >>> you can break this down to component tests if you like but the end goal >>> is totest user ability to have a functional system. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>> >>> >>> >>> chris snow sent the following on 5/25/2010 9:12 PM: >>> >>>> Hi BJ - i'd like to start adding selenium tests, however, before adding >>>> selenium tests, test cases need to be created. To create test cases, >>>> process >>>> flows need to be understood/documented (I'm still at the >>>> understanding stage >>>> hence my work on the help system). So in conclusion only those with >>>> detailed knowledge of ofbiz processes can start adding selenium >>>> tests (only >>>> a few people?). >>>> >>>> On 26 May 2010 03:18, "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> we need button pusher and business that need to accomplish a task. >>>> one of the top level testing tools is selenium >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3511 >>>> your welcome to add to the library. >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> < >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Warnock sent the following on 5/25/2010 6:40 PM: >>>> >>>>> Based on encouraging comments from you and Jacopo and others, and >>>>> seeing >>>>> the rate at which new commits are added, I am thinking it may be >>>>> best to >>>>> get on the trunk, even for production. However I can't imagine >>>>> running >>>>> nightly builds on a production server. >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking I'd build nightly on the development laptop, and >>>>> update the >>>>> production server every week or two, to a fairly recent, more-or-less >>>>> "known good" revision level. I'm hoping this would provide the >>>>> best of >>>>> both worlds. And I'm hoping that this would avoid any >>>>> mission-critical >>>>> breakages until the fixes have been committed. Does that seem >>>>> reasonable? >>>>> >>>>> I don't kid myself that I can submit much code yet, but hopefully I >>>>> can >>>>> help test and document bugs, even if I can't fix them yet. Hopefully >>>>> that will come soon. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > |
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Hi Erwan:
True, but I prefer not to build them in a vacuum. I like to test everything I do before I put it out for public consumption. So, I couldn't build and test with a local version of OFBiz because the 9.04 Selenium integration is not complete. Regards, Ruth Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: > Le 26/05/2010 16:27, Ruth Hoffman a écrit : >> Hi BJ: >> If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some >> test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case >> scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. >> I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in >> production. >> > Hi Ruth, > > you can just put your tests in the jira issue, and they will be > converted to the latest OFBiz version. I'm sure there are some people > willing to do this ! > > Cheers, > |
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Hi BJ:
I'm most interested in using OFBiz exclusively to drive and manage the process of testing. While the IDE part works just fine, the back end OFBiz part doesn't work very well with 9.04. How to use the browser to generate tests is pretty well documented. I was hoping I could put together some documentation on how to use it w/9.04. The effort to get it to work was beyond the time I had allocated. So, it's on the back burner for me right now. If you have time to add it to 9.04, I think that would be a welcome enhancement to the code base. Regards, Ruth ---------------------------------------------------- Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" [hidden email] BJ Freeman wrote: > Selenium IDE is in your browser and you can save your process. > you can create them on 9.04 and use to test them on the trunk. > you can have a folder for 9.04 and one for 10.04 using demo-stable or > trunk. > but I would suggest you just start with 9.04 and label as such in the > filehnames then put them in the repository. > then we have a test against 10.04 and the trunk as to what has changed > from a users point of view. > > I will put the port on my list of lists of lists to do. > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 5/26/2010 7:27 AM: > >> Hi BJ: >> If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some >> test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case >> scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. >> I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in production. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" >> [hidden email] >> >> >> BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> forgot >>> should use User manual as the test case. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>> >>> >>> >>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 5/26/2010 2:18 AM: >>> >>> >>>> Chris there are many ways to test. >>>> I see selenium more as business logic to data test using the >>>> available UI. >>>> It test real world interaction with the user of ofbiz. >>>> here is one scenario >>>> Place an order(ecoomerce or Orderentry) >>>> send product >>>> view the GL for expected results (through the UI). >>>> >>>> For PO >>>> Place an order(Orderentry) >>>> receive product >>>> pay supplier >>>> check GL for expected results(through the UI) >>>> Now this test all underlying code and if the user can use the results >>>> for business. >>>> >>>> you can break this down to component tests if you like but the end goal >>>> is totest user ability to have a functional system. >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> chris snow sent the following on 5/25/2010 9:12 PM: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi BJ - i'd like to start adding selenium tests, however, before adding >>>>> selenium tests, test cases need to be created. To create test cases, >>>>> process >>>>> flows need to be understood/documented (I'm still at the >>>>> understanding stage >>>>> hence my work on the help system). So in conclusion only those with >>>>> detailed knowledge of ofbiz processes can start adding selenium >>>>> tests (only >>>>> a few people?). >>>>> >>>>> On 26 May 2010 03:18, "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> we need button pusher and business that need to accomplish a task. >>>>> one of the top level testing tools is selenium >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3511 >>>>> your welcome to add to the library. >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < >>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> < >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matt Warnock sent the following on 5/25/2010 6:40 PM: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Based on encouraging comments from you and Jacopo and others, and >>>>>> seeing >>>>>> the rate at which new commits are added, I am thinking it may be >>>>>> best to >>>>>> get on the trunk, even for production. However I can't imagine >>>>>> running >>>>>> nightly builds on a production server. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm thinking I'd build nightly on the development laptop, and >>>>>> update the >>>>>> production server every week or two, to a fairly recent, more-or-less >>>>>> "known good" revision level. I'm hoping this would provide the >>>>>> best of >>>>>> both worlds. And I'm hoping that this would avoid any >>>>>> mission-critical >>>>>> breakages until the fixes have been committed. Does that seem >>>>>> reasonable? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't kid myself that I can submit much code yet, but hopefully I >>>>>> can >>>>>> help test and document bugs, even if I can't fix them yet. Hopefully >>>>>> that will come soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > |
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Le 26/05/2010 18:55, Ruth Hoffman a écrit :
> Hi Erwan: > True, but I prefer not to build them in a vacuum. I like to test > everything I do before I put it out for public consumption. So, I > couldn't build and test with a local version of OFBiz because the 9.04 > Selenium integration is not complete. > > Regards, > Ruth > > Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: >> Le 26/05/2010 16:27, Ruth Hoffman a écrit : >>> Hi BJ: >>> If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some >>> test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case >>> scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. >>> I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in >>> production. >>> >> Hi Ruth, >> >> you can just put your tests in the jira issue, and they will be >> converted to the latest OFBiz version. I'm sure there are some people >> willing to do this ! >> >> Cheers, >> > just need selenium RC and launch tests from it. -- Erwan de FERRIERES www.nereide.biz |
Hi Erwan:
Thanks. Regards, Ruth Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: > Le 26/05/2010 18:55, Ruth Hoffman a écrit : >> Hi Erwan: >> True, but I prefer not to build them in a vacuum. I like to test >> everything I do before I put it out for public consumption. So, I >> couldn't build and test with a local version of OFBiz because the 9.04 >> Selenium integration is not complete. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> >> Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: >>> Le 26/05/2010 16:27, Ruth Hoffman a écrit : >>>> Hi BJ: >>>> If you back-port Selenium to 9.04, I'd be happy to come up with some >>>> test cases. I've already got an extensive list of business test case >>>> scenarios I used for various tasks involving OFBiz. >>>> I can't use 10.x or trunk because I'm still running Java 1.5 in >>>> production. >>>> >>> Hi Ruth, >>> >>> you can just put your tests in the jira issue, and they will be >>> converted to the latest OFBiz version. I'm sure there are some people >>> willing to do this ! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >> > Anyway, you can test without having selenium installed into OFBiz. you > just need selenium RC and launch tests from it. > |
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