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Sharan-F
Hi

I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored here.

http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and eventually bring them across to the Wiki?

Thanks
Sharan
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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Adrian Crum-3
Those documents are extremely old and consequently most of the
information in them is wrong. It is nice to have them as a reference (so
the good bits of information can be copied to current docs), but they
should not be displayed or referenced in any new documentation.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 8/25/2014 12:29 PM, Sharan-F wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored
> here.
>
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs <http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs>
>
> They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH
> Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and
> consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and
> eventually bring them across to the Wiki?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/http-ofbiz-apache-org-docs-tp4654229.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Sharan-F
Thanks for the clarification Adrian.
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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Ron Wheeler
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What would be your suggestion about existing documentation that refers
to them?
- Should we remove the reference?
- Somehow flag the reference as potentially misleading and out of date?
- Create new descriptions that only deal with the part of te reference
that pertains to the subject in the referencing document?

Can someone who knows OfBiz, give an assessment of each of the docs
about what are the problems with the HTML docs and what would it take to
fix or replace them with updated content?

Which ones are worth copying to the wiki?

config_deploy_maint.html
control.html
core.html
coreconfig.html
datafile.html
entity.html
entityconfig.html
minilang.html
regions.html
serviceconfig.html
services.html
taglib.html
wf_cal_spec_chart.html
workflow.html


Ron


On 25/08/2014 7:36 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> Those documents are extremely old and consequently most of the
> information in them is wrong. It is nice to have them as a reference
> (so the good bits of information can be copied to current docs), but
> they should not be displayed or referenced in any new documentation.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 8/25/2014 12:29 PM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored
>> here.
>>
>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs <http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs>
>>
>> They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH
>> Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and
>> consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and
>> eventually bring them across to the Wiki?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/http-ofbiz-apache-org-docs-tp4654229.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>


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Artifact Software Inc
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skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
I will have a look, hopefully "soon"...

Jacques

Le 25/08/2014 16:26, Ron Wheeler a écrit :

> What would be your suggestion about existing documentation that refers to them?
> - Should we remove the reference?
> - Somehow flag the reference as potentially misleading and out of date?
> - Create new descriptions that only deal with the part of te reference that pertains to the subject in the referencing document?
>
> Can someone who knows OfBiz, give an assessment of each of the docs about what are the problems with the HTML docs and what would it take to fix or
> replace them with updated content?
>
> Which ones are worth copying to the wiki?
>
> config_deploy_maint.html
> control.html
> core.html
> coreconfig.html
> datafile.html
> entity.html
> entityconfig.html
> minilang.html
> regions.html
> serviceconfig.html
> services.html
> taglib.html
> wf_cal_spec_chart.html
> workflow.html
>
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 25/08/2014 7:36 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> Those documents are extremely old and consequently most of the information in them is wrong. It is nice to have them as a reference (so the good
>> bits of information can be copied to current docs), but they should not be displayed or referenced in any new documentation.
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 8/25/2014 12:29 PM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored
>>> here.
>>>
>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs <http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs>
>>>
>>> They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH
>>> Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and
>>> consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and
>>> eventually bring them across to the Wiki?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/http-ofbiz-apache-org-docs-tp4654229.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Sharan, as a committer, you have write access to these documents, they are at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site/docs, the whole site is at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site
Because of the possible importance of these documents (even if old), I began to review them in detail by section. They should be marked as Obsolete in
most case I guess, I will confirm below...

Here is my 1st attempt:
config_deploy_maint.html, this document is based on OFBiz 3.0!
     Introduction
     Building Blocks
         Nothing, important can be discarded
     Setting Up a Database
         Obsolete, can be discarded
     Downloading and Installing Java - java.sun.com
         Obsolete, can be discarded
     OFBiz
      Getting OFBiz
         Obsolete, we have better documents, can be discarded
      Deploying & Configuring OFBiz
         jndiservers.xml
             Obsolete, we have better documents, can be discarded
         entityengine.xml
             Check the content, maybe not all is covered elsewhere (setup doc)
         Servlet & JSP Container
             Obsolete, can be discarded
         Transaction Manager
             Obsolete, can be discarded
         Connection Pool
             Obsolete, can be discarded
         JMS Configuration
             N/A, discard
         URL Settings
             We have better documents, can be discarded (content to be compared to tech setup maybe)
         Cache Settings & Analysis
             We have better documents, can be discarded (content to be compared to tech setup maybe)
      Keeping Up With OFBiz
The rest is empty => discard!
     Restarting versus Run-time Changable
     The OFBiz WebTools
     Performance & Reliability
     eCommerce Specific

As you can see, we can neglect this document, I will do a review of others the same way, but w/o as much comments, see below...

Le 04/09/2014 11:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> I will have a look, hopefully "soon"...
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 25/08/2014 16:26, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>> What would be your suggestion about existing documentation that refers to them?
>> - Should we remove the reference?
Yes I agree with Arian, better no documentation than a misleading one. People should now that information there are Obsolete.
>> - Somehow flag the reference as potentially misleading and out of date?
>> - Create new descriptions that only deal with the part of te reference that pertains to the subject in the referencing document?
>>
>> Can someone who knows OfBiz, give an assessment of each of the docs about what are the problems with the HTML docs and what would it take to fix or
>> replace them with updated content?
>>
>> Which ones are worth copying to the wiki?
>>
>> config_deploy_maint.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> control.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> core.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> coreconfig.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> datafile.html
Not sure we have better information elsewhere in wiki...
>> entity.html
I will review later
>> entityconfig.html
I will review later
>> minilang.html
To me barked as Obsolete, we have up to date documentation in wiki
>> regions.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> serviceconfig.html
I will review later
>> services.html
I will review later
>> taglib.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> wf_cal_spec_chart.html
To me barked as Obsolete
>> workflow.html
To me barked as Obsolete

Jacques

>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> On 25/08/2014 7:36 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> Those documents are extremely old and consequently most of the information in them is wrong. It is nice to have them as a reference (so the good
>>> bits of information can be copied to current docs), but they should not be displayed or referenced in any new documentation.
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum
>>> Sandglass Software
>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>
>>> On 8/25/2014 12:29 PM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs <http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs>
>>>>
>>>> They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH
>>>> Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and
>>>> consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and
>>>> eventually bring them across to the Wiki?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sharan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/http-ofbiz-apache-org-docs-tp4654229.html
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator

Le 04/09/2014 20:09, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Sharan, as a committer, you have write access to these documents, they are at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site/docs, the whole site is at
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site
> Because of the possible importance of these documents (even if old), I began to review them in detail by section. They should be marked as Obsolete
> in most case I guess, I will confirm below...
>
> Here is my 1st attempt:
> config_deploy_maint.html, this document is based on OFBiz 3.0!
>     Introduction
>     Building Blocks
>         Nothing, important can be discarded
>     Setting Up a Database
>         Obsolete, can be discarded
>     Downloading and Installing Java - java.sun.com
>         Obsolete, can be discarded
>     OFBiz
>      Getting OFBiz
>         Obsolete, we have better documents, can be discarded
>      Deploying & Configuring OFBiz
>         jndiservers.xml
>             Obsolete, we have better documents, can be discarded
>         entityengine.xml
>             Check the content, maybe not all is covered elsewhere (setup doc)
>         Servlet & JSP Container
>             Obsolete, can be discarded
>         Transaction Manager
>             Obsolete, can be discarded
>         Connection Pool
>             Obsolete, can be discarded
>         JMS Configuration
>             N/A, discard
>         URL Settings
>             We have better documents, can be discarded (content to be compared to tech setup maybe)
>         Cache Settings & Analysis
>             We have better documents, can be discarded (content to be compared to tech setup maybe)
>      Keeping Up With OFBiz
> The rest is empty => discard!
>     Restarting versus Run-time Changable
>     The OFBiz WebTools
>     Performance & Reliability
>     eCommerce Specific
>
> As you can see, we can neglect this document, I will do a review of others the same way, but w/o as much comments, see below...
>
> Le 04/09/2014 11:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> I will have a look, hopefully "soon"...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 25/08/2014 16:26, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>>> What would be your suggestion about existing documentation that refers to them?
>>> - Should we remove the reference?
> Yes I agree with Arian, better no documentation than a misleading one. People should now that information there are Obsolete.
>>> - Somehow flag the reference as potentially misleading and out of date?
>>> - Create new descriptions that only deal with the part of te reference that pertains to the subject in the referencing document?
>>>
>>> Can someone who knows OfBiz, give an assessment of each of the docs about what are the problems with the HTML docs and what would it take to fix
>>> or replace them with updated content?
>>>
>>> Which ones are worth copying to the wiki?
>>>
>>> config_deploy_maint.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> control.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> core.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> coreconfig.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
I was wrong on this one, there are still useful information there though it should be reviewed and updated
It's notably used in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide which I have referenced from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44994703 (build link)

Jacques

>>> datafile.html
> Not sure we have better information elsewhere in wiki...
>>> entity.html
> I will review later
>>> entityconfig.html
> I will review later
>>> minilang.html
> To me barked as Obsolete, we have up to date documentation in wiki
>>> regions.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> serviceconfig.html
> I will review later
>>> services.html
> I will review later
>>> taglib.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> wf_cal_spec_chart.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>>> workflow.html
> To me barked as Obsolete
>
> Jacques
>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/08/2014 7:36 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> Those documents are extremely old and consequently most of the information in them is wrong. It is nice to have them as a reference (so the good
>>>> bits of information can be copied to current docs), but they should not be displayed or referenced in any new documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2014 12:29 PM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just come across some OFBiz Technical documentation that is stored
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs <http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs>
>>>>>
>>>>> They are referenced by some of the documents and guides in the OFBTECH
>>>>> Technical documentation. As part of the documentation review and
>>>>> consolidation effort - do we need to look at reviewing these too and
>>>>> eventually bring them across to the Wiki?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/http-ofbiz-apache-org-docs-tp4654229.html
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>