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Nicolas Malin (Jira)
Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
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                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
             Project: OFBiz
          Issue Type: Improvement
          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
            Reporter: Bruno Busco
             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3


The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.

Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.

What do you think?

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Hans Bakker commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Hi Bruno,
my first aim is to delete the mypage component when the myportal has the same functionality. I expect that next week. We will also add a registration function with a captha (from the Apache library), to myportal.

then we will enhance the myportal component, in general, the way you suggest.

point 4 I agree, but at the moment there was no other way....would be nice to have that with a widget menu....

so it looks like we are in agreement?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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+ 1 for captcha and the rest ! Sorry, no ideas for point 4.

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Hans,
all this looks really great!
It's nice to hear about the captcha feature!
For point 4 could we think about dynamic menu widgets?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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On #2, mounting the MyPortal application as a root application might interfere with existing installations that have another application mounted at /. Maybe mount it as /home.


> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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/home seems indeed a good idea (consistent)

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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On #2 I really like the idea of something foundational in the framework with plugins from app components (I guess I've written that before). However, I'm not sure I like the name "home"... it's too generic and seeing it I wouldn't know what it was. The "portal" is thrown about enough these days and a "my" prefix implies personalization, which is what it's all about... so I actually like the name "MyPortal".

For #3 the entities used have to be somewhere, and that is usually the best place for what is built on them. Communications would generally be in party (if it is just plain CommunicationEvent) or marketing (if it uses ContactLists too).



> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Vince Clark commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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"Dashboard" is another commonly used term for this type of functionality. So we could mount on /dashboard.

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Dashboard is interesting... but I think I still like the original name that Hans put together, it is more literal (perhaps cliche, and I don't like that, but easy to understand).

When I think about a "dashboard" I think about something that is mostly view-only, like a reporting or BI type of thing. Am I off-base there?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/mypage
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Could we close this issue?
The MyPortal is now complete and the MyPage has been removed from the toolbar.

According to some past discussions it seems that we should only:
- Delete the MyPage application from the trunk
- Have the MyPortal as "home" application mounted to "/"

What do you think?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Yes, should we not close this issue ?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Hans Bakker commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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myportal still has a number of issues...i expect to have them resolved end of march....then we can delete mypage....

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.3
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Hi Hans,

Should we not close now ?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Hans Bakker commented on OFBIZ-2129:
------------------------------------

David wants to move the myportal into the framework and make it the root application. I do not know yet how we show this component alone with the framewok  or with the complete ERP ofbiz application. Perhaps David has an idea?

> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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My ideal ofbiz framework-only installation, from a user point of view, is as follows:

1 - admin can create users and let them log in
2 - admin can assign to each user a set of permissions
3 - users can login, access the home application and customize their default portal page
4 - users can select a different theme among what admin has installed
5 - users can change their details as name email etc.
6 - users can ask for a forgotten passord and receive by email
7 - users (if given the permission) are able to send communications to othe users
8 - users can receive and read communications

All other features should be activated installing the application.
Having this approach I think that OFBiz will be used by many users that (like me) are not strictly interested in a businness system based on selling products but simply in a framework to build powerfull enterprise level automated web applications.

Should we better focus on having the framework isolated?
The home application and the portal system should let us do this more easily.
Any time I start studying how to definitively remove the applications from the installation I stop on the party component.
My idea is that the party component should be reviewed in order to split the framework from the whole. It seems to me that it is too much linked to applications but also implementing base functionality that should be available in the framework-only.

Any idea on how to proceed on this?

Thank you,
Bruno


> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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May be the list should be added with:
9 - users can access the online help system


> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-2129) Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home

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Hi Bruno:
Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering, is there a functional
specification or requirements document covering the myportal design? I'm
trying to follow the JIRA comments and am getting very confused as to
the original requirements that drove the development of this code.

TIA
Ruth

Bruno Busco (JIRA) wrote:

>     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12767111#action_12767111 ]
>
> Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
> ------------------------------------
>
> My ideal ofbiz framework-only installation, from a user point of view, is as follows:
>
> 1 - admin can create users and let them log in
> 2 - admin can assign to each user a set of permissions
> 3 - users can login, access the home application and customize their default portal page
> 4 - users can select a different theme among what admin has installed
> 5 - users can change their details as name email etc.
> 6 - users can ask for a forgotten passord and receive by email
> 7 - users (if given the permission) are able to send communications to othe users
> 8 - users can receive and read communications
>
> All other features should be activated installing the application.
> Having this approach I think that OFBiz will be used by many users that (like me) are not strictly interested in a businness system based on selling products but simply in a framework to build powerfull enterprise level automated web applications.
>
> Should we better focus on having the framework isolated?
> The home application and the portal system should let us do this more easily.
> Any time I start studying how to definitively remove the applications from the installation I stop on the party component.
> My idea is that the party component should be reviewed in order to split the framework from the whole. It seems to me that it is too much linked to applications but also implementing base functionality that should be available in the framework-only.
>
> Any idea on how to proceed on this?
>
> Thank you,
> Bruno
>
>
>  
>> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>>             Project: OFBiz
>>          Issue Type: Improvement
>>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>>
>>
>> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
>> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
>> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
>> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
>> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
>> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
>> What do you think?
>>    
>
>  
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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-2129) Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home

Bruno Busco
Hi Ruth,
please give a look here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1999

HTH, Bruno

2009/10/18 Ruth Hoffman <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Bruno:
> Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering, is there a functional
> specification or requirements document covering the myportal design? I'm
> trying to follow the JIRA comments and am getting very confused as to the
> original requirements that drove the development of this code.
>
> TIA
> Ruth
>
> Bruno Busco (JIRA) wrote:
>>
>>    [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12767111#action_12767111
>> ]
>> Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> My ideal ofbiz framework-only installation, from a user point of view, is
>> as follows:
>>
>> 1 - admin can create users and let them log in
>> 2 - admin can assign to each user a set of permissions
>> 3 - users can login, access the home application and customize their
>> default portal page
>> 4 - users can select a different theme among what admin has installed
>> 5 - users can change their details as name email etc.
>> 6 - users can ask for a forgotten passord and receive by email
>> 7 - users (if given the permission) are able to send communications to
>> othe users
>> 8 - users can receive and read communications
>>
>> All other features should be activated installing the application.
>> Having this approach I think that OFBiz will be used by many users that
>> (like me) are not strictly interested in a businness system based on selling
>> products but simply in a framework to build powerfull enterprise level
>> automated web applications.
>>
>> Should we better focus on having the framework isolated?
>> The home application and the portal system should let us do this more
>> easily.
>> Any time I start studying how to definitively remove the applications from
>> the installation I stop on the party component.
>> My idea is that the party component should be reviewed in order to split
>> the framework from the whole. It seems to me that it is too much linked to
>> applications but also implementing base functionality that should be
>> available in the framework-only.
>>
>> Any idea on how to proceed on this?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Bruno
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>                Key: OFBIZ-2129
>>>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>>>            Project: OFBiz
>>>         Issue Type: Improvement
>>>         Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>>>   Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>>           Reporter: Bruno Busco
>>>            Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>>>
>>>
>>> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been
>>> moved to MyPortal.
>>> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
>>> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly
>>> related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective
>>> applications.
>>> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and
>>> (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the
>>> applications are left
>>> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in
>>> MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
>>> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is
>>> not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example
>>> application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for
>>> this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to
>>> the Widget version of the AppBar.
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-2129) Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home

Ruth Hoffman-2
Hi Bruno:
Thanks much.
Ruth

Bruno Busco wrote:

> Hi Ruth,
> please give a look here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1999
>
> HTH, Bruno
>
> 2009/10/18 Ruth Hoffman <[hidden email]>:
>  
>> Hi Bruno:
>> Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering, is there a functional
>> specification or requirements document covering the myportal design? I'm
>> trying to follow the JIRA comments and am getting very confused as to the
>> original requirements that drove the development of this code.
>>
>> TIA
>> Ruth
>>
>> Bruno Busco (JIRA) wrote:
>>    
>>>    [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12767111#action_12767111
>>> ]
>>> Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-2129:
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> My ideal ofbiz framework-only installation, from a user point of view, is
>>> as follows:
>>>
>>> 1 - admin can create users and let them log in
>>> 2 - admin can assign to each user a set of permissions
>>> 3 - users can login, access the home application and customize their
>>> default portal page
>>> 4 - users can select a different theme among what admin has installed
>>> 5 - users can change their details as name email etc.
>>> 6 - users can ask for a forgotten passord and receive by email
>>> 7 - users (if given the permission) are able to send communications to
>>> othe users
>>> 8 - users can receive and read communications
>>>
>>> All other features should be activated installing the application.
>>> Having this approach I think that OFBiz will be used by many users that
>>> (like me) are not strictly interested in a businness system based on selling
>>> products but simply in a framework to build powerfull enterprise level
>>> automated web applications.
>>>
>>> Should we better focus on having the framework isolated?
>>> The home application and the portal system should let us do this more
>>> easily.
>>> Any time I start studying how to definitively remove the applications from
>>> the installation I stop on the party component.
>>> My idea is that the party component should be reviewed in order to split
>>> the framework from the whole. It seems to me that it is too much linked to
>>> applications but also implementing base functionality that should be
>>> available in the framework-only.
>>>
>>> Any idea on how to proceed on this?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>                Key: OFBIZ-2129
>>>>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>>>>            Project: OFBiz
>>>>         Issue Type: Improvement
>>>>         Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>>>>   Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>>>           Reporter: Bruno Busco
>>>>            Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been
>>>> moved to MyPortal.
>>>> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
>>>> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly
>>>> related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective
>>>> applications.
>>>> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and
>>>> (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the
>>>> applications are left
>>>> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in
>>>> MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
>>>> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is
>>>> not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example
>>>> application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for
>>>> this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to
>>>> the Widget version of the AppBar.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>      
>
>  
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Ruth Hoffman commented on OFBIZ-2129:
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Bruno's "ideal framework-only" installation mirror many of my own thoughts. I haven't really spec'd out what I'd like to see in detail - so I reserve the right to comment at a later date - but one more thing comes to mind right now. Maybe this is implied but:  A framework-only install should be compatible with a full OFBiz instance at the same version level. In other words, the admin should be able to install and remove additional components without breaking the framework instance.




> Moving definitively from MyPage to MyPortal / Home
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-2129
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2129
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: specialpurpose/myportal
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: Bruno Busco
>             Fix For: Release Branch 9.04
>
>
> The MyPage application should be deleted if all functionality have been moved to MyPortal.
> Moreover I would suggest to do the following:
> 1) Move all screenlets that are now defined in MyPortal but are strictly related to other applications (i.e. projectmgr) to their respective applications.
> 2) Rename the MyPortal to Home application, have it mounted on "/" and (may be later) move it to the framework when no dependency to the applications are left
> 3) For the new functionalities that have been developed in MyPage/MyPortal (i.e. communications) we should think where to place them
> 4) The actual way of integrate the new portalPages into the AppBarMenu is not compatible with the Widget version of the AppBarMenu (in the Example application the AppBarMenu has been reverted to the .FTL version just for this reason). I think we should find a way to integrate the PortalPages to the Widget version of the AppBar.
> What do you think?

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