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[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

Nicolas Malin (Jira)
ProdCatalog missing field title help
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                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
             Project: OFBiz
          Issue Type: Sub-task
          Components: product
    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
            Reporter: chris snow
            Priority: Trivial
             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk


Patch provided.

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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

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chris snow updated OFBIZ-3772:
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    Attachment: ProdCatalog.patch

Most descriptions have been taken from the "Manager Reference Catalog" document.



> ProdCatalog missing field title help
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>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3772:
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Hi Chris,

I'm ready to commit you patch. But I think we should just discuss how you envision to answer to Adrian's concern about diverging helps. Let me explain how I see it so far.

# For the moment we use *EntityLabels.xml files as you did so far to store the information
# At some point in the future we wil extract and enhance this information and put in the help system (docBook)
# We will then have a part of this information used for tooltips.
# We will also create a javascript mechanism allowing to get the complete information from the help system by clicking in the tooltip if needed.
# A third level of hep information, the help system itself, will give more structured information if necessary

Is that right?

Thanks

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

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chris snow commented on OFBIZ-3772:
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Hi Jacques,

I will need to spend some time looking at how the help system works to
be able to answer fully.   However, from an end users perspective, I see
the help system as providing workflow type help that drills down to
field level help.  This is similar to the compiere/adempiere help.  
Therefore, the field descriptions would be used also in the help system.

What do you think?

Cheers,

Chris




> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

Nicolas Malin (Jira)
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Jacques Le Roux edited comment on OFBIZ-3772 at 5/16/10 7:06 AM:
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Hi Chris,

I'm ready to commit you patch. But I think we should just discuss how you envision to answer to Adrian's concern about diverging helps. Let me explain how I see it so far.

# For the moment we use *EntityLabels.xml files as you did so far to store the information
# At some point in the future we wil extract and enhance this information and put in the help system (docBook)
# We will then have a part of this information used for tooltips. A length of 150 chars max seems reasonnable
# We will also create a javascript mechanism allowing to get the complete information from the help system by clicking in the tooltip if needed.
# A third level of hep information, the help system itself, will give more structured information if necessary

Is that right?

Thanks

      was (Author: jacques.le.roux):
    Hi Chris,

I'm ready to commit you patch. But I think we should just discuss how you envision to answer to Adrian's concern about diverging helps. Let me explain how I see it so far.

# For the moment we use *EntityLabels.xml files as you did so far to store the information
# At some point in the future we wil extract and enhance this information and put in the help system (docBook)
# We will then have a part of this information used for tooltips.
# We will also create a javascript mechanism allowing to get the complete information from the help system by clicking in the tooltip if needed.
# A third level of hep information, the help system itself, will give more structured information if necessary

Is that right?

Thanks
 

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

Nicolas Malin (Jira)
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3772:
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Yes that sounds good to me. Though, as I don't know how Compiere/Adempiere help works, I'm not quite sure to understand what "help system as providing workflow type help that drills down to
field level help." means exactly, could you elaborate, please?

Thanks

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

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chris snow commented on OFBIZ-3772:
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Hi Jacques - that is correct.  I will change my focus back to the
overall help system integration.

I was hoping that by getting some tooltip examples in place (e.g.
ProductStore and ProductCatalog), I could maybe enroll some help from
other ofbiz users to extract the help from the "Manager X Reference"
guides.  The next demo server refresh will pick up the ProductStore
field descriptions so I can use that as an example, and I will post a
message to the user forum asking for help...

Many thanks,

Chris




> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

Nicolas Malin (Jira)
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chris snow updated OFBIZ-3772:
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    Attachment: Screenshot.png

Hi Jacques,

As per adempiere screenshot.  The top part of the help contains the overall description (e.g. workflow).  Below this is the list of related entities and fields.  This entity/field list is hyperlinks allowing you to drilldown to the actual field help descriptions.

Drilldown is probably not a good choice of word.  I hope the above description and screenshot helps clarify my intentions.  I now have to workout how to do this in the ofbiz help system.

Cheers,

Chris

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch, Screenshot.png
>
>
> Patch provided.

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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

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Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3772.
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      Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
    Resolution: Fixed

Chris,

I have commited your patch at r944797 in trunk, R10.04 at r944807. I will now close this issue and will move our discussion above in the umbrella issue.

I'm not quite sure we should restrain the tooltip length. It seems that in modern browsers there are naly longer issues with that and with wider screens it not an issue as well.

I better understand the Compiere help and you intention now, thanks

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch, Screenshot.png
>
>
> Patch provided.

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Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3772) ProdCatalog missing field title help

chris snow-2
Thanks again Jacques!

On 16 May 2010 12:53, "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3772.
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     Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
   Resolution: Fixed

Chris,

I have commited your patch at r944797 in trunk, R10.04 at r944807. I will
now close this issue and will move our discussion above in the umbrella
issue.

I'm not quite sure we should restrain the tooltip length. It seems that in
modern browsers there are naly longer issues with that and with wider
screens it not an issue as well.

I better understand the Compiere help and you intention now, thanks

> ProdCatalog missing field title help
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-3772
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3772
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: product
>    Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>            Reporter: chris snow
>            Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>            Priority: Trivial
>             Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
>
>         Attachments: ProdCatalog.patch, Screenshot.png
>
>
> Patch provided.

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