ofbiz release10.04 - where is orderProcessXPDL.xml used?

[chris snow]

Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and how?

Many thanks,

Chris

[BJ Freeman]

Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
See the Shark container.


chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and how?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>

[chris snow]

Is there any value in keeping files like these if they aren't used?

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
> See the Shark container.
>
>
> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>>
>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and how?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

there seems to be a movement to remove a lot of "unused" stuff.
I my personal value is that this is a community and as we grow some one
may take an interest.
so only things that have been superseded should be removed.
like if there is a business language interface that has been implemented.




chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:11 PM:

> Is there any value in keeping files like these if they aren't used?
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
>> See the Shark container.
>>
>>
>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>>>
>>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and how?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>>
>

[chris snow]

Hi BJ, keeping old stuff around makes the framework harder to master.
Could the file be archived somewhere?  That way, it's clear to users
that it isn't important, but is still around if someone wants to
finish off the functionality.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> there seems to be a movement to remove a lot of "unused" stuff.
> I my personal value is that this is a community and as we grow some one may
> take an interest.
> so only things that have been superseded should be removed.
> like if there is a business language interface that has been implemented.
>
>
>
>
> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:11 PM:
>>
>> Is there any value in keeping files like these if they aren't used?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
>>> See the Shark container.
>>>
>>>
>>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>>>>
>>>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and
>>>> how?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[BJ Freeman]

how about an svn log comment that says see the shark if your interested.
that way if someone runs across it they may get interested, but if put
away it is more like out of sight out of mind.
However if you get drool implemented and in the trunk or I get the
business Basic integrated, I can see removing the Shark and all files
related.



chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:28 PM:

> Hi BJ, keeping old stuff around makes the framework harder to master.
> Could the file be archived somewhere?  That way, it's clear to users
> that it isn't important, but is still around if someone wants to
> finish off the functionality.
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> there seems to be a movement to remove a lot of "unused" stuff.
>> I my personal value is that this is a community and as we grow some one may
>> take an interest.
>> so only things that have been superseded should be removed.
>> like if there is a business language interface that has been implemented.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:11 PM:
>>>
>>> Is there any value in keeping files like these if they aren't used?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
>>>> See the Shark container.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and
>>>>> how?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[chris snow]

svn log sounds good - will you be deleted this and other deprecated files now?

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:41 PM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> how about an svn log comment that says see the shark if your interested.
> that way if someone runs across it they may get interested, but if put away
> it is more like out of sight out of mind.
> However if you get drool implemented and in the trunk or I get the business
> Basic integrated, I can see removing the Shark and all files related.
>
>
>
> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:28 PM:
>>
>> Hi BJ, keeping old stuff around makes the framework harder to master.
>> Could the file be archived somewhere?  That way, it's clear to users
>> that it isn't important, but is still around if someone wants to
>> finish off the functionality.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> there seems to be a movement to remove a lot of "unused" stuff.
>>> I my personal value is that this is a community and as we grow some one
>>> may
>>> take an interest.
>>> so only things that have been superseded should be removed.
>>> like if there is a business language interface that has been implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 12:11 PM:
>>>>
>>>> Is there any value in keeping files like these if they aren't used?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, BJ Freeman<[hidden email]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
>>>>> See the Shark container.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and
>>>>>> how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[David E. Jones-2]

Actually, that file was for the OFBiz Workflow Engine, which Shark is partially based on, and which has been removed from the project.

This is another one of those things that has failed to attract sufficient attention over the years, probably because workflow engines are a lame and cumbersome tool compared to simple status tracking and the more generally flexible business event rules (ECA rules in OFBiz).

-David


On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:09 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Shark is disabled, since the integration was not completed.
> See the Shark container.
>
>
> chris snow sent the following on 9/19/2010 11:39 AM:
>> Is orderProcessXPDL.xml used by anything in Ofbiz?  if so, where and how?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>

[chris snow]

so can all this old stuff be removed?

[james_sg]

Hi Chris,

BJ mentioned that "only things that have been superseded should be removed."

chris snow wrote

so can all this old stuff be removed?

[Jacques Le Roux]

You mean only orderProcessXPDL.xml?
I think it should not be removed but moved to where it belongs (to avoid dependency from a specialpurpose component to an
applications component)

If you thought about the whole stuff, you may have a look at http://markmail.org/message/fmcdrzmmakowpcjd

Jacques

From: "chris snow" <[hidden email]>
> so can all this old stuff be removed?