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Re: SV: accounting

Posted by Malin Nicolas on Jan 18, 2010; 1:44pm
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/accounting-tp1012974p1016638.html

No, or not writing by neogia team's. If I want revert Naccounting
improvement in OFBiz, it's the first operation that will do.

Nicolas

> Is there a document (in English) that outlines the main differences
> between
> OFBiz accounting and the nAccounting?
>
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> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: Info Olagos [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sendt: 18. januar 2010 13:28
> Til: [hidden email]
> Emne: Re: accounting
>
> Thanks Nicolas,
>
> Interesting to know this information.
>
> C'est bien de savoir cette information.
>
> Merci, thanks,
>
> Heidi
>
> 2010/1/18 <[hidden email]>
>
>> Hello Heidi,
>>
>> TerCompta works on neogia accounting components and not OFBiz accounting
>> components. Why ? When I started five years ago on OFBiz we need an
>> accounting europeen system and we do an error to create a new component
>> (inspired from baan accounting system). I hope on next years, go back on
>> ofbiz accounting and contribute tu main project.
>>
>> But actually TerCompta is only an addon that embded easier screen to
>> make
>> accounting for small businness. It's use many addon :
>>  naccounting-base : to manage account, period and entries
>>  naccounting-integ : to use integration engine (you have some event in
>> your system and with define rules you up in you accounting entries by
>> fonctionnal event)
>>  naccouting-french-document : contains an hierarchy account use to make
>> french income statement
>> (you can show all on addons.neogia.org/addons)
>>
>> TerCompta do not have french account define, and you can create a new
>> addon with an other hierarchy account and income statement document for
>> an
>> other state with change TerCompta.
>>
>>
>> If you have more question, I am available ;)
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> > Yes nAccounting is specific to Neogia. It *replaces* OFBiz accounting.
>> The
>> > Noegia team is working (for one year now) on so called
>> > "addons". And if I have well understood, when the addons mechanim will
> be
>> > released you will be able to plugin nAccounting in OFBiz.
>> > I have always found weird their way of doing it (instead of using
>> > hot-deploy overrides capabilities and such), but this is how
>> > things are going...
>> >
>> > Jacques
>> >
>> > From: "Info Olagos" <[hidden email]>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have downloaded the source code.
>> > It is using a separate component naccounting.
>> >
>> > Need to investigate it further. (so means i need time for all these
>> > things....)
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Heidi
>> >
>> > 2010/1/16 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>> >
>> >> Yes sure, it's maintained by Nicolas Malin from libreenberry
>> >> http://librenberry.net/spip.php?article21
>> >>
>> >> I'm not quite sure about the licence, most of the time the Neogia
>> team
>> >> uses
>> >> GPL...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jacques
>> >>
>> >> From: "Info Olagos" <[hidden email]>
>> >> Jacques,
>> >>
>> >> Is there source code available from tercompta?
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Heidi
>> >>
>> >> 2010/1/16 Info Olagos <[hidden email]>
>> >>
>> >> thanks Jacques,
>> >>>
>> >>> very interesting info !
>> >>>
>> >>> Seems to be quite the same as the belgium system but have to
>> >>> investigate
>> >>> it
>> >>> further in detail.
>> >>>
>> >>> regards,
>> >>> Heidi
>> >>>
>> >>> 2010/1/16 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, it's the same in France
>> >>>
>> >>>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_comptable_%28France%29
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jacques
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From: "Info Olagos" <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello Carsten,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In some countries like in Belgium it is obliged to maintain a
>> minimum
>> >>>> definition of a chart of accounts in the accountancy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So i think for these countries it is not to be defined as demo
>> data.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Perhaps other members of this list can inform me if the chart of
>> >>>> accounts
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> for a minimum legally binded by the member state in their country?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> regards,
>> >>>> Heidi
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2010/1/15 Carsten Schinzer <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Morning Heidi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> indeed I thought  that as well, but finally, it's each company's
>> >>>>> decision
>> >>>>> which GL they would like to use; hence I rather think the demo
>> >>>>> account
>> >>>>> definitions are what they are: DEMO data. Hence to be customized
>> per
>> >>>>> customer.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> An option would be to define various "boilerplate" demo data sets
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> work,
>> >>>>> e.g. a GL that reflects typical Charts of accounts.
>> >>>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Carsten
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2010/1/15 Info Olagos <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > Carsten,
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I think you should set also in your i18n document on wiki, the
>> >>>>> >  DemoGeneralChartOfAccounts.xml GlAccount demo
>> >>>>> > to be localised.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Regards,
>> >>>>> > Heidi
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > 2010/1/14 Carsten Schinzer <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > > Hi Jacopo,
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > well .... errrr .... sort of in the middle of it.
>> >>>>> > > I can  thus attach examples of what I did so far, but it's all
>> >>>>> untested
>> >>>>> > > yet.
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > I am especially stuck on the part t hat connects the GL
>> setting
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> OFBiz
>> >>>>> > > specifics such as InvoiceItems, default accounts ..
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > I have included the reference to the WIKI doc on i18n (though
>> it
>> >>>>> makes
>> >>>>> > sens
>> >>>>> > > to boild out ideas on the wiki rather than on the JIRA ticket.
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Regards
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Carsten
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > 2010/1/14 Jacopo Cappellato
>> <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > > Hi Carsten,
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > I do have an OFBiz config artifact containing the HGB Para
>> >>>>> 266
>> >>>>> > > structure
>> >>>>> > > > as
>> >>>>> > > > > XML Emtity Config for GlAccountingClasses.
>> >>>>> > > > > Question: How to share this ... I could open a JIRA ticket
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> > > > improvement
>> >>>>> > > > > and attach stuff there.
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > yes, please create a Jira ticket and attach the file or
>> patch
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> it;
>> >>>>> > > > contribution like this could go into the official project
>> (as
>> >>>>> demo
>> >>>>> data
>> >>>>> > > that
>> >>>>> > > > is not loaded by default).
>> >>>>> > > > Do you have only gl account classes or a full chart of
>> >>>>> accounts?
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > Kind regards,
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > > Jacopo
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > --
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Best
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Carsten Schinzer
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Waisenhausstr. 53a
>> >>>>> > > 80637 München
>> >>>>> > > Germany
>> >>>>> > >
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
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>> >>>>> Best
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Carsten Schinzer
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
>> >>>>> 80637 München
>> >>>>> Germany
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