Posted by
Jacques Le Roux on
Sep 04, 2005; 1:23am
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/OFBiz-Users-Re-would-like-to-changethe-contentmanagementcomponent-of-OfBiz-tp135774p135777.html
Rohit,
>I am sorry! Either we have got too much communication difference or
>probably I am just too bad at english. I just don't get the point you are
>trying to put. last time I messed up this time I don't want to. So I will
>appreciate if you could be more specific.
Don't be sorry, my English is certainly worst than yours (but I got an
excuse : I'm french ;o)
>The problem with this is. The Lazslo Presentation Server on Windows XP
>running on a Intel PIV 2.2Ghz with 256 MB DDR RAM takes around 8-10 mins to
>start and around 15 mins to actually deliver the first page. Also whenever
>you veisit a page for the first time there is a overhead of about 3 mins.
Your explanations are very welcome : you are the first on this ML reporting
real use of Lazslo and this reinforces some of my "a priori" against Lazslo
and pro Ajax. Althougth (and specialy for this type of think) 256MB on XP is
certainly a bit short. Quickness is the main but not the only reason :
. As you said "it generates Flash O/P which can be only veiwed
with the Flash plugin."
. And Flash is proprietary so : specifications might change, or even Flash
might disappear (don't laugh, who remembers the Eighties PC DB "standard"
DBase III ? There are so much examples...)
. Flash is not read by non graphic navigators (for blinds, by example) and
*worst* by crawlers
. And finally, Flash is really not a W3c standard (as opposed to CSS and
XHTML - of course XML - and even *ECMAScript* and DOM)
At this point I try to resume all the links we have got on this subject :
Some Rich Web Application Development Tool
(7 of them)
http://mytechrantings.blogspot.com +
http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net/Java Rich Internet Applications
http://www.canoo.com/ulc/They also use Jira :o)
see on :
http://webtest.canoo.com/manual/WebTestHome.htmlA good Ajax demo (Rico)
http://openrico.org/rico/demos.pageRico is based upon :
http://prototype.conio.net/I will make a page in the Wiki about all that, did I forgot something ?
Jacques
----- Original Message -----
From: Rohit Rai
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Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Re: would like to
changethe,contentmanagementcomponent of OfBiz
Hi! Jacques,
I am sorry! Either we have got too much communication difference or probably
I am just too bad at english. I just don't get the point you are trying to
put. last time I messed up this time I don't want to. So I will appreciate
if you could be more specific.
Actually, I was going to write more on this point today cause was busy on a
project yesterday.
Lazslo, is basically a presentation server that takes in XML input and gives
out output in Flash. We were trying to make a RIA Generator as part of our
R&D effort. That time I got to work with Lazslo. We have made a basic Java
Application that takes in User Input as the data he wants to maintain and
give the O/P in form of Lazslo XML files (.lzx) The process is very easy,
specifically due to the fact that the LZX files are true XML files with
predefined Lazslo tags.
The problem with this is. The Lazslo Presentation Server on Windows XP
running on a Intel PIV 2.2Ghz with 256 MB DDR RAM takes around 8-10 mins to
start and around 15 mins to actually deliver the first page. Also whenever
you veisit a page for the first time there is a overhead of about 3 mins.
As compared to Ofbiz (Which runs pretty perfectly even on my Thinkpad) LPS
is too much overload. Once I run LPS on the ThinkPad I am not able to even
work on it. Its damn too sluggish.
The second point is it generates Flash O/P which can be only veiwed with the
Flash plugin. While Ofbiz in current form can be used even in the Basic
browsers and even applying AJAX will mean compatibility with most of the
browsers.
I hope that explains the point I was mentioning there quite well. In any
further queries you can ask me. Also you can have a look at our project at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/rwadt---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jacques Le Roux <
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:04:08 +0200
Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Re: would like to
changethe,contentmanagementcomponent of OfBiz
>Lazslo: I have worked with that thing. Our company has open source the
project to make RIA using Laszlo server. Out of experience I can say, it
would not be suitable for use with Ofbiz becuase the LPS >is huge and too
heavy. Though the language used to describe the UI is XML, the O/P is flash.
I think we should remain more cross platform using AJAX stuff. There is also
another option to Lazslo i.e. >WebORB but it too has the same problems.
Thanks Tohit for this information, many people are asking themselves about
this point !
Jacques
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