Posted by
Jacques Le Roux on
Sep 04, 2005; 9:53pm
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/OFBiz-Users-Re-would-like-to-changethe-contentmanagementcomponent-of-OfBiz-tp135787p135788.html
Rohit,
>Well, getting that kind of a system (Flex on PowerPC G4 1,2GHz with 1280 MB
>RAM ) here in India just for a good look and feel will be investing a
>fortune in getting a needle that just shines bright. Comapnies here use
>systems with PIV processors as standard servers. Dual Pro system is one of
>the best you will get if you are approaching a SME. And my point is not
>against Lazslo, its against the use of Lazslo in Ofbiz, for the reason I
>mentioned above to David.
I reassure you, it's also the kind of tools (Dell 5100 and such) SME use too
here in France (south of France to be precise), but 256MB is not much in
ending 2005 you must admit ! At least for a server. If you really work on
OFBiz with Eclipse on XP, 512MB seems a minima, 1024MB is great, with Linux
you may use less memory ;o) Memory is not so expensive at the moment, isn't
?
>Another point is not about Flash/SWF being not being non standard
>or closed.
To construct SWF what tool will be used ? Without talking about graphic
competences...
And I think that the difference between a commercial and an open source
technology have to be mentionned !
>I really don't like the Idea of transferring binary data to the browsers,
>that too dynamically generated at runtime! Later it can lead to many
>security loopholes and unstability. ASCII data is my preferred format,
>I can even test what actually I am getting at the client side on telnet
>& above all it makes that easy to Debug.
I'm not sure about security loopholes and unstability but that's another
point, good that you mention it, thanks.
>About AJAX browser support, anybrowser that supports JavaScript should be
>able to support AJAX, ofcourse with some exceptions. For that case we can
> go along with Google's approach with GMail. a Dual Interface, AJAX + Plain
> HTML >and that should not be too difficult considering AJAX is built over
HTML.
I think also that Ajax seems the best candidate, because we need something
looking like a Windows interface (or Swing or Mac or Gnome or KDE, etc.) not
something too complicated (I think mainly about the graphic part involved in
Flash).
> I would like to hear on this i am not very sure.
Perhaps I'm wrong, because I must admit that I have never used Flash nor
Lazslo, thoughts ?
Jacques
----- Original Message ----- From: Rohit Rai
Rohit,
Your English looks fine, except one little part: instead of "damn too
sluggish" it should probably be "too damn sluggish". I hear you on
this one, that's one of my pet peeves and even OFBiz is a little slow
for me sometimes (wish we could do something about the Tomcat
initialization times for example...).
-David
HI! David,
Thanks for the correction!
I find the performance of Ofbiz quite satisfactory, specially with the
Hardware I use and even on my Thinkpad, it works fine. I mean people here do
wonder when I am running and ERP system on a Laptop & I can demonstrate all
features, its cool and it is one of the major advantages, I can always tell
my clients that "if performs so well on my Laptop think of the performance
on dedicated server ;)" I won't at any cost want to loose that for "bells
and whistles" or a gr8 "look and feel". It is a wonderful job you people
have put in and it should remain that wonderful, always!
The "performance" is indeed bad. 256 MB RAM is surely not enough for a J2EE
application like OpenLaszlo and Windows. I have a very good performance
experience with Flex on PowerPC G4 1,2GHz with 1280 MB RAM (development
machine, not yet in production).
Your explanations are very welcome : you are the first on this ML reporting
real use of Lazslo and this reinforces some of my "a priori" against Lazslo
and pro Ajax. Althougth (and specialy for this type of think) 256MB on XP is
certainly a bit short.
Hello, Jacques & Oliver,
Well, getting that kind of a system (Flex on PowerPC G4 1,2GHz with 1280 MB
RAM ) here in India just for a good look and feel will be investing a
fortune in getting a needle that just shines bright. Comapnies here use
systems with PIV processors as standard servers. Dual Pro system is one of
the best you will get if you are approaching a SME. And my point is not
against Lazslo, its against the use of Lazslo in Ofbiz, for the reason I
mentioned above to David.
Another point is not about Flash/SWF being not being non standard or closed.
I really don't like the Idea of transferring binary data to the browsers,
that too dynamically generated at runtime! Later it can lead to many
security loopholes and unstability. ASCII data is my preferred format, I can
even test what actually I am getting at the client side on telnet & above
all it makes that easy to Debug.
About, various UIMLS like XUL, XAML, AUIML, RUIML & ... I am not sure. I
mean how much browser support they have? And most are pushed on by their
proponents. In such murky wars taking sides is not good for business people.
;)
About AJAX browser support, anybrowser that supports JavaScript should be
able to support AJAX, ofcourse with some exceptions. For that case we can go
along with Google's approach with GMail. a Dual Interface, AJAX + Plain HTML
and that should not be too difficult considering AJAX is built over HTML. I
would like to hear on this i am not very sure.
Regards,
Rohit
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