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Re: [OFBiz] Users - TO DAVID --- Online Documentation >>>waiting

Posted by David E. Jones on Oct 07, 2005; 10:49pm
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/OFBiz-Users-TO-DAVID-Online-Documentation-tp136078p136082.html


Vinicius,

Florin's reply to this message is a good one and I second his advice.

In general OFBiz is designed to run a single company, but it does  
support multiple organizations within that company without  
limitation. I personally don't like the single application and single  
database shared by dozens or hundreds of companies approach, and  
OFBiz isn't designed for that. I have heard from people who have done  
significant customization of OFBiz to try to offer this sort of  
shared application, but it is a REALLY hard sell and even huge  
companies like SalesForce.com and NetLedger (now owned by Oracle)  
have had to spend a LOT of money to _try_ to overcome the limitations  
of shared applications and convince companies that it will work okay  
for them.

So, I highly recommend running separate instances for different  
companies. This has been discussed a LOT on the mailing lists because  
a lot of people see this as a potential way to make a buck. It is  
possible, but just be careful, it is a huge nightmare to do it that  
way even with systems that are designed for it, and OFBiz is not, it  
is designed for customization in configuration files and not in the  
database.

Our intention is to compete with ASPs that offer shared applications  
by offering dedication application instances and independent  
databases (though it is safe with most modern databases to run a  
single db server instance with multiple separate databases), and then  
they can have direct access (usually read-only) to their database for  
their own custom reports and such, and there isn't the same risk of  
someone accidently getting into their database because of an  
application bug... In general it also makes the software more  
flexible and simpler at the same time, making it easier to and  
cheaper to customize, making possible things that small companies  
could not otherwise do.

Okay, my thoughts on the topic again... I guess I should stop writing  
about this because a lot of this is probably a repeat of what has  
been said before...

-David


On Oct 7, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Vinicius Nadai wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for answer,
>
> My problem is to run OFBIZ to Varios Companies and each Companies  
> to haver various employees.
> I dont found this in any place . So, I buied your online  
> documentation, but don't found too.
>
> Can you help me??
>
> Vinicius
>
> David E. Jones wrote:
>>
>> Vinicius,
>>
>> Please don't take this personally, but I don't respond well to  
>> pressure and manipulation.
>>
>> The documentation site is what it is and while we try to put  
>> information in there that is as useful as possible to the widest  
>> audience possible, with the scope of OFBiz and all of the  
>> possible  ways to use the system it is hard to predict what people  
>> might want  to do with it.
>>
>> So, I appreciate your feedback and hopefully with more  
>> information  about your needs we can help you out. In that light  
>> the OFBiz Users  mailing list (which has nothing to do with  
>> Undersun or the Undersun  Online Documentation) happens to be a  
>> great place to discuss this.
>>
>> In other words, I'm not sure if documentation will meet your  
>> needs.  It sounds like what you need is analysis, and $4.95 worth  
>> of  discounted documentation (even if purchased multiple times by  
>> different people in the same company) probably won't meet your needs.
>>
>> You mention you'd like to know about Multi Company in OFBiz, what  
>> exactly do you mean by that?
>>
>> On the question about the permission, this might have just been a  
>> typo in the email but the permission should be "CATALOG_ADMIN"  
>> and  not "CATALOG_ADM".
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Vinicius Nadai wrote:
>>
>>> David, I am waiting your anwser
>>>
>>> Vinicius Nadai wrote:
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> The online documents in the site Undersun is incomplete. For  
>>>> example: Create Employer. And others.
>>>>
>>>> I very need to know all about the Security.
>>>>
>>>> My problem: I am giving the permisson CATALOG_ADM to a one User  
>>>> and when he to do the Login is displayed a message: This user  
>>>> not  permission to the application.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to know too all about Multi Company in The OFBIZ  
>>>> and  I buied the document for this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
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