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Re: [OFBiz] Users - questions and suggestions

Posted by Ian Gilbert on Nov 29, 2005; 12:43am
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/OFBiz-Users-questions-and-suggestions-tp136582p136587.html

This is our experience also.  We have adopted an incremental approach to
using this system based around requirements from the business as they
arise.  We have made some modifications to the management screens and have
a longstanding intention to modify the customer UI which is ongoing.  We
also originally looked carefully at Compiere but came to the same
conclusion as Adrian.

We found the object relational mapping that the entity engine gives us to
be a very useful and easy way of navigating the database which we found
more intuitive than working with the underlying RDBMS (Postgres in our
case) although we have had to do some custom reports which have required
db skills (fortunately something we have in abundance) but the headstart
that we got on development has been a major boon for us.

HTH

Very best wishes

Ian

On Sat, November 26, 2005 4:55 pm, Adrian Crum wrote:

> David,
>
>
> I am using OFBiz for the company I work for. Like you, I found the user
> interface too complicated for most of the employees here, and it wasn't
> really task-centric. That is by design by the way - the interface shipped
> with OFBiz is (in my opinion) a generic presentation layer that is
> intended to expose all of the framework's capabilities.
>
> The approach we took here was to design our own user interface - built
> upon the excellent framework that OFBiz supplies. The default UI was used
> as a guide to design our own task-centric data entry screens. It took a
> little over six months to come up with a strategy that is easily
> duplicated to generate new pages and tasks.
>
> Re: Compiere - that OS project had one attribute that turned me away: it
> is database-centric. There is a lot of SQL built into the source code.
> That SQL may
> not port to all databases. On the other hand, OFBiz is database AND
> operating system agnostic - it will run on just about any database and
> operating system. With that it mind - it also scales well. Do you need to
> support tens of thousands of simultaneous users? No problem! You can run
> OFBiz on a mainframe,
> or better yet, outsource it to a sophisticated hosting company.
>
> -Adrian
>
>
>
> David Welton wrote:
>
>>> It's always nice to get some feedback like this, Si has been working
>>> hard on making OFBiz more palatable to the movers and shakers, and I'm
>>>  sure he'll read your comments with interest.
>>
>>
>>> We have some plans on the look and feel front, but bear in mind OFBiz
>>> is growing rapidly, so it isn't high on the agenda at the moment.
>>
>>
>> Part of it is probably just a graphical touch up by someone who is
>> good with that sort of thing.  That's not really a big deal, I think.
>>
>> Of more concern is managing the complexity presented to users of the
>> system.  It's a tough problem, and perhaps one that is simply not
>> possible to deal with in a generic way.  A lot of google's applications
>> (gmail, for instance) are a good example of the direction
>> that good applications will go in, I think.  Gmail is easy enough my mom
>> can use it despite being new to computers, and yet it's not limiting for
>> me (it's the first web mail system that doesn't drive me buggy, infact).
>>
>>
>>
>>> David (E. Jones) and I were recently in contact with a large client
>>> who was asking some of the same questions you are, one of the emails
>>> with a lot of the info you're looking for is attached below. It
>>> doesn't answer your specific question, but will give you a good idea
>>> of what to expect.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>> OFBiz has pretty good granular security control, so it is possible to
>>>  limit user access both at the application level and the
>>> application/feature level. So you don't need to overwhelm users with
>>> a sea of irrelevant features. See the ltdadmin user account for a very
>>>  simple example of this.
>>
>>
>> Cool.  I think all the pieces are probably there, it's just a matter
>> of how much time it takes to put them together.  The 'competition' in my
>> case is the internal system that's been put together a mix of things
>> that isn't pretty to look at but does work.
>>
>>
>>> I hope this helps you a little.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's useful, yes, thanks for your prompt reply!
>>
>>
>> Our situation is most likely not a huge load of concurrent users
>> (although it's good to see that this scales linearly), as right now
>> we're doing tens of thousands of web site hits a day, but a huge quantity
>> of products for sale in the DB.  Luckily for now we don't have to worry
>> about stocking a very large portion of those physically. We'll probably
>> keep the web front-end we have now as it works pretty well for our
>> products, and is mostly statically
>>
>> One other question - ofbiz does have a community, and people using it
>> for their businesses.  So it's good design built on working code that
>> does something pretty complex.  Yet it doesn't strike me as being
>> visible in the open source world... I'd heard of compiere even though it
>> was a subject that didn't interest me prior to this job, but ofbiz was
>> something I discovered only when I went hunting for it.  Any thoughts on
>> that?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> --
>> David N. Welton
>> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>>
>>
>> Apache, Linux, Tcl Consulting
>> - http://www.dedasys.com/
>>
>>
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