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Re: bpel and bpmn

Posted by BJ Freeman on Jun 29, 2006; 9:29pm
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/bpel-and-bpmn-tp140281p140286.html

I guess i am a zealot. Just trying not to show it. LOL
from http://www.uml.org/
The Unified Modeling Language™ - UML - is OMG's most-used specification,
and the way the world models not only application structure, behavior,
and architecture, but also business process and data structure.
I use eclipse
http://www.visual-paradigm.com/product/sde/ec/productinfosdeceec.jsp


Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 6/29/2006 1:08 PM:

> I'm not a zealot of UML and I'm not using it for the moment. But I think it's a
> good way to ease understanding between people, even not techies.
>
> In fact, Neogia http://www.nereide.biz/ is build this way partially. They write
> UML graphs with Poseidon http://gentleware.com/index.php and they use a
> technology  that they created with Code Lutin http://www.codelutin.com/ to
> generate files (every types ASA there is generator to do it). They wrote enough
> generators to ease 70% of the work on Neogia side (Neogia is using OFBiz) they
> claim.
>
> Jacques
>
>> Parkinson's law, though is about work expanding to meet the resources.
>> a lesser known one is the way to win an argument is to speak in an area
>> that the others can not comprehend so they will not show their ignorance
>> by speaking against it.
>>
>> Most of these modeling proposition, are the same, unless you are a
>> zealot about it.
>>
>> which boils down to good luck.
>> LOL.
>>
>> David Welton sent the following on 6/29/2006 4:18 AM:
>>>> I believe that was the Idea behind UML (unified Modeling Language)
>>>> http://www.omg.org/technology/documents/formal/uml.htm
>>>> It really never got accepted. .
>>> I think this aims to be much more specific than UML, which is used for
>>> all kinds of things.  It describes services, and how they interact,
>>> rather than database tables or objects, or other low level things of
>>> that nature.  Perhaps it has a shot at working if it doesn't try to be
>>> everything to everyone.
>>>
>>> Some healthy skepticism is in order, but the idea is interesting.  I
>>> would love to offload the design of these processes to my boss, and
>>> let a computer worry about translating them into something runnable
>>> (rather than sitting down and doing it myself:-).  But perhaps that's
>>> just a dream, and in reality the system doesn't work out that well, or
>>> requires an army of people to implement.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just sort of curious what others thought.
>>>
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