http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/ofBiz-featuring-Google-ajax-tp143006p143012.html
This sounds pretty cool. Just to make it clear though, if it is GPL
> Just to contribute to this discussion, we are moving in the
> direction of using the ZK framework (potix.com). It has the same
> dual licensing framework as MySQL.
>
> Note that this is a step beyond simply "using Ajax" inside a
> basically normally page-by-page framework. It creates a much more
> "desktop" model of development. The key reasons we are jumping to
> this kind of model are:
> 1. Avoids the mish-mash of technologies and syntax which most web
> projects have (JSP + JSTL + Struts + DHTML + Prototype) for
> example. One of the thins I most like about OFBiz (backend) is
> that to code entities and business logic, you can spend most of
> your time thinking about the data model, logic flow and
> understanding the problem domain. Actually coding the service is
> fairly straightforward, and doesnºt even require Java knowledge
> (although Java is always there if you need it). Unfortunately,
> after trying out the OFBiz frontend framework, we found it still
> rather a mish-mash, albeit better organized. Widgets, screens,
> forms, FTL, beanshell, scattered around various directories.
> In ZK, you basically code in a very consistent XML language, and
> beanshell. Optionally, you can define complex components in Java,
> there are many plugin points. So we can reuse our developer's
> existing Java knowledge.
>
> 2. Nicer to look at, and facilitates making more user-friendly UIs,
> which is one area where OFBiz still has a long way to go.
>
> 3. Facilitates reuse of components across your application (if you
> are careful about it).
>
> 4. MAY be more performant because there is less network traffic,
> and less needless reprocessing of most of the page (menus, headers
> etc), by both browser and server, every time you click a wee button.
>
> In technical terms, yes it requires installation of some servlets,
> listeners etc. in your webapp but this to me is reasonable. They
> are all standard J2EE components which I know how to configure and
> secure.
>
> There IS a case for centralizing some of these services across all
> OFBiz JVM, if you use ZK in multiple webapps, but then you could
> say that about the OFBiz control servlet as well. There is always
> some tradeoff between modularization and centralization.
>
> In terms of compatibility, it DOES depend on a more recent version
> of Beanshell but I do not believe this issue will be around too
> long (see:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-528)
>
> The other very similar alternative to ZK, which we also
> investigated, is:
>
http://www.openlaszlo.org/>
> A very similar architecture, and very well-documented. The big
> stumbling block was that it requires the browser to have Flash
> plugin, of a certain version, etc., whereas ZK is purely DHTML-
> based. Laszlo have been saying that DHTML support is coming "soon"
> but in fact they have been saying this for a while. All of the
> other frameworks (DOJO, prototype, rico, etc.) have the drawback
> that they do one or two things, and have their very own syntax and
> configuration peculiarities. ZK may not be best of breed in any of
> these areas, but it is no slacker, and has the advantage of a
> consistent approach to everything.
>
> Anyway, we are currently converting a 32bit client-server product
> to use ZK frontend + OFBiz backend, I will keep yous all informed
> of how it goes.
>
> cameron
>
> P.S. I am not in any way a representative of Potix Software, I am
> merely summarizing the outcomes of my findings so far, with the
> community
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Sayoke Shome <
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> To:
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> Sent: Wednesday, 13 December, 2006 6:17:53 AM
> Subject: RE: Ofbiz featuring Google Ajax?
>
>
> I haven't worked much on DOJO (found it little confusing), but if
> Ofbiz
> community is looking for a tested and free framework for Ajax then
> Might
> I suggest DWR framework. The only disadvantage is, it comes with
> its own
> servlet. This has to be incorporated in Web.xml for web-app. But it
> would make Ajax implementation child's play.
>
> But after working on Ajax in Ofbiz for couple of months I feel we can
> make the most of it if we use naked Ajax code. It will then exploit
> the
> MVC architecture of Ofbiz to fullest and no third party servlet
> will be
> required.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>
>
> Sayoke Shome | eCommerce Framework Developer | ENSIA | BIPL, sector V,
> salt lake | mobile 0.99031.80520 |
>
> "Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge
> without
> integrity is dangerous and dreadful."
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ruppert [mailto:
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:28 AM
> To:
[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: ofBiz featuring Google ajax?
>
>
>
> Walter, there's actually a lot of discussion on this topic going on
>
> on the dev list as we speak. There are competing "standards" out
>
> there and we're all trying to come to some consensus about what
>
> direction to take the project.
>
>
>
> We currently have demos in JSON, Google Web Toolkit and Dojo (and I
>
> know there are lots of other ones going on with other companies) - so
>
> I'm confident that we'll get to a good place.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
> --
>
> Tim Ruppert
>
> HotWax Media
>
>
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>
>
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Walter Vaughan wrote:
>
>
>
>> I just read in that Google Ajax has been released under the Apache
>
>> 2.0 license. I know that Si and a few others are working on
>
>> integrating a few ajax features into the project, but it might be
>
>> cool to have a bulletpoint like "features the Google(r) Web Toolkit
>
>> (tm)"...
>
>>
>
>>
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/makinggwtbetter.html>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> Walter
>
>
>
>
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