Posted by
jonwimp on
Jan 23, 2007; 3:19pm
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/Question-on-Rouning-tasks-tp143884p143895.html
Jacopo,
> Yes, tasks can be used to produce stuff (and the screens you see are
> exactly for setting the allowed products; then you can use the main
> production runs screen to 'produce' them): however it is a manual
> process and as I see it it should only be used for non standard results.
Yes, you're right. My boss tells me the common way, as you described, is to use a cascading
structure/network of production runs.
>> Seems like the Manufacturing module is choke full of skeletal
>> half-implemented concepts. Maybe we should:
>
> This is not true, but think it as you prefer.
Lot control ID.
>> 1. Round off all half-implemented concepts so newcomers don't have so
>> many red
>> herrings to deal with.
>> 2. Document all fully-implemented concepts so newcomers know that
>> undocumented
>> concepts are either not there or not fully there.
>> What do you think?
>
> Go for it. I'd suggest (as I already told you in one of my previous
> posts) to create a Wiki page for this.
I'll try. Currently, I'm as busy as you are. And we certainly don't see you or me writing Wikis at
this time. In fact, I write more to help other newbies with what information I got from you and
other veterans (some I discovered myself).
I've been trying to get some people who has time to write (possibly because they don't need to
code). But they're writing "other stuff" right now on the ML.
>> I'm willing to help, as long as you continue to give me such
>> invaluable pointers!
>
> I really cannot promise this, but if I can I will continue to help you all.
Yes, you always did. Thanks!
>> I know you must have forgotten many of the functionalities you coded.
>
> I've never said something like this., but, again, think it as you
> prefer: no time to discuss with you.
I can dig up several posts to show this. But let's leave it at this and focus on work instead. I
have a bad memory too, when I have too much work.
> You are really making too many assumptions and in my opinion this is a
> common pattern for people, like you, that speak too much :-)
I can spend an hour to dig into OFBiz to answer my own questions; or I can spend 5 minutes to ask
those questions on ML. Assumptions are a quick way to learn, since they do draw corrections and
answers. :)
Of course, I realized that it seems to take people quite a long time to answer questions even for
modules they've coded before, possibly because they've coded that too long ago.
So, instead of asking "Does OFBiz does this/that?", I've resorted to asking "OFBiz does (or does
not) do this/that. Confirm?". Most of the time (check and tally my posts on ML), I was right. I
hope that saved the OFBiz veterans' time, since they only had to give a "yes/no" answer.
I hope you don't mean I "speak too much [truth]". Like you, I'm straightforward. No time to tiptoe
around with "customer service". I used to try (all posts recorded, so refer). People tend to
"feel" for facts, rather than see facts. I like written comms, zero room for "feeling for facts",
all there to be read and reread. But as you can see in my posts, I often "give in", let people
think what they think against the written facts, and move on to work.
If work gets done, I'm happy. I leave people to argue with the written posts themselves.
> As a general rule, if you want to get a chance to get any kind of
> attention from me, keep your messages as short as possible: chances are
> that I will not read more than the first 5 lines of your posts from now
> on (sorry but I simply don't have the time to chat with you).
I know you're busy. That's why I've been trying to figure things out myself, post my findings, and
occasionally hope for your corrections. Thanks!
Jonathon
Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
>> Jacopo,
>>
>> Thanks for heads up on the WIP! Invaluable advice.
>>
>> So you're saying that Task Runs (PROD_ORDER_TASK) can never produce
>> anything by themselves (inside context of a Production Run
>> PROD_ORDER_HEADER)? Then what does the "Deliverable Products" tab in
>> "Edit Routing Task" function do?
>>
>
> Yes, tasks can be used to produce stuff (and the screens you see are
> exactly for setting the allowed products; then you can use the main
> production runs screen to 'produce' them): however it is a manual
> process and as I see it it should only be used for non standard results.
>
>> Seems like the Manufacturing module is choke full of skeletal
>> half-implemented concepts. Maybe we should:
>>
>
> This is not true, but think it as you prefer.
>
>> 1. Round off all half-implemented concepts so newcomers don't have so
>> many red
>> herrings to deal with.
>>
>> 2. Document all fully-implemented concepts so newcomers know that
>> undocumented
>> concepts are either not there or not fully there.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Go for it. I'd suggest (as I already told you in one of my previous
> posts) to create a Wiki page for this.
>
>> I'm willing to help, as long as you continue to give me such
>> invaluable pointers!
>
> I really cannot promise this, but if I can I will continue to help you all.
>
>> I know you must have forgotten many of the functionalities you coded.
>
> I've never said something like this., but, again, think it as you
> prefer: no time to discuss with you.
> You are really making too many assumptions and in my opinion this is a
> common pattern for people, like you, that speak too much :-)
>
>> But as long as you point me the way, I can take apart OFBiz quickly to
>> document it. Deal?
>>
>
> As a general rule, if you want to get a chance to get any kind of
> attention from me, keep your messages as short as possible: chances are
> that I will not read more than the first 5 lines of your posts from now
> on (sorry but I simply don't have the time to chat with you).
>
> Good luck for your project,
>
> Jacopo
>
>
>
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