Re: svn commit: r918926 - in /ofbiz/site: images/follow_us-b.png index.html
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On 4/03/2010, at 11:13 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Scott:
> Perhaps you are correct. But, these guys are lawyers. What we "think" and what is legal are two different matters entirely.
Yes and what they said vs. what your interpretation of what they explained to you are also two entirely different matters. Proper attribution is only one aspect of the ASF's trademark policy and it is all pretty well explained here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
That document makes it pretty clear that attribution is not the only concern.
> The truth of the matter, as it applies to Han's application and as far as it was explained to me through several written exchanges with the legal team, is that anyone may use the logo and/or the name including "Apache Open For Business", "OFBiz" and "Apache OFBiz" as long the registered trademark symbols are clearly visible (at least one time within close proximity of usage.)
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> On 4/03/2010, at 10:53 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Hans:
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hans, Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Hans: we all thank you for your help on the demo server. There is no problems making advertissement for your company (or anyone else). It
>>>> seems the problem is in the name apache_ofbiz which looks like an official chanel.
>>>>
>>>> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear
>>>> on the official site main page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From a legal POV you can't use the logo and name if it's not an official chanel
>>>>>
>>> My understanding, and as it was explained to me by the Apache legal team is that you *may *use the logo and name if you give proper attribution. In other words, clearly indicate that these are registered trademarks of the Apache Foundation. Hans, you may want to check with the lawyers to get further clarification.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think they are anywhere near as concerned about attribution as they are about misrepresentation of the Apache trademarks.
>>
>>
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On 4/03/2010, at 11:13 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Scott:
> Perhaps you are correct. But, these guys are lawyers. What we "think" and what is legal are two different matters entirely.
Yes and what they said vs. what your interpretation of what they explained to you are also two entirely different matters. Proper attribution is only one aspect of the ASF's trademark policy and it is all pretty well explained here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
That document makes it pretty clear that attribution is not the only concern.
> The truth of the matter, as it applies to Han's application and as far as it was explained to me through several written exchanges with the legal team, is that anyone may use the logo and/or the name including "Apache Open For Business", "OFBiz" and "Apache OFBiz" as long the registered trademark symbols are clearly visible (at least one time within close proximity of usage.)
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> On 4/03/2010, at 10:53 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Hans:
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hans, Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Hans: we all thank you for your help on the demo server. There is no problems making advertissement for your company (or anyone else). It
>>>> seems the problem is in the name apache_ofbiz which looks like an official chanel.
>>>>
>>>> Scott: but then yes, what about ofbizbyhotwax and ofbiz_help, etc. less confusing I'd say, nor clean. The point is maybe they don't appear
>>>> on the official site main page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From a legal POV you can't use the logo and name if it's not an official chanel
>>>>>
>>> My understanding, and as it was explained to me by the Apache legal team is that you *may *use the logo and name if you give proper attribution. In other words, clearly indicate that these are registered trademarks of the Apache Foundation. Hans, you may want to check with the lawyers to get further clarification.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think they are anywhere near as concerned about attribution as they are about misrepresentation of the Apache trademarks.
>>
>>
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