Re: Dev - [OFBiz] subprojects <Bump> Attn: David Welton

Posted by David E. Jones on Mar 04, 2006; 7:22am
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/Dev-OFBiz-subprojects-Bump-Attn-David-Welton-tp167039p167042.html


This would be a good question for the Apache incubator general list.  
I'm not sure if there is any way to do this and avoid the initial  
trickiness with licensing. If everyone is already an ASF contributor  
(ie has a CLA on file) it is easier. It is also easier if a single  
entity owns the entire copyright, and then a single license grant can  
be used (instead of a bunch of CLAs).

But I don't know, being Apache 2.0 licensed may help make this a lot  
easier... Certain licenses are more compatible with the Apache  
license and code under those licenses can be distributed with ASF  
projects, so as a worst case scenario that can always be done... We  
may have to do some of this with OFBiz, but we're still a ways off  
from knowing for sure with various parts and people.

-David


On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Chris Howe wrote:

> So then, what license should a derivative work be
> under so that there isn't an issue with it being added
> to the OFBiz project (or any project) but still make
> it so that someone cannot copyright the derivative
> work and lockout the true author?
>
> --- "David E. Jones" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I believe the answer is yes, a CLA is still
>> required. The CLA is a
>> specific license grant to the ASF and not something
>> more generic. In
>> other words, a project can use the Apache 2.0
>> license but with their
>> own copyright and such. This doesn't mean the ASF
>> owns the code or
>> has a license grant, so I think it has to be
>> explicitly granted.
>>
>> I'm not totally sure about this, but as I understand
>> it this is how
>> things work. We have started adding Apache 2.0
>> headers with the
>> copyright assigned to the ASF, but we can only
>> really do this because
>> we are already in the incubator.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:29 PM, Chris Howe wrote:
>>
>>> This may have been overlooked because of the end
>> of
>>> the month...
>>>
>>> David Welton,
>>>
>>> Would iCLAs be necessary if the subproject hosted
>> on
>>> sf.net used the Apache 2.0 license?
>>>
>>> --- David Welton <davidnwelton at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/26/06, Chris Howe <cjhowe76013 at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> sourceforge.net just completed their svn beta
>> and
>>>> are
>>>>> now offering svn repository for projects that
>> they
>>>>> host.  Would it be better for
>>>> specialized/incomplete
>>>>> applications to create their own project there
>>>> until
>>>>> they reach a level of maturity that the Ofbiz
>>>> project
>>>>> desires?  At that point, the OFBiz team could
>> ask
>>>> that
>>>>> it be merged into the Apache OFBiz project.
>>>>
>>>> If they went that route, and wanted to aim for
>>>> re-integration, they'd
>>>> have to make sure that they keep a tight rein on
>>>> licensing.  It's
>>>> likely they'd have to do iCLA's for new people
>>>> they'd picked up.  To
>>>> become a subproject they'd also likely have to go
>>>> through the whole
>>>> incubation thing, although it would be simpler at
>>>> that point because
>>>> (if all goes well:-) OFBiz will be an established
>>>> part of the ASF at
>>>> that time.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> David N. Welton
>>>>  - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>>>>
>>>> Linux, Open Source Consulting
>>>>  - http://www.dedasys.com/
>>>>
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