Re: svn commit: r928451 - /ofbiz/trunk/framework/widget/templates/htmlScreenMacroLibrary.ftl

Posted by Adam Heath-2 on
URL: http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/Re-svn-commit-r928451-ofbiz-trunk-framework-widget-templates-htmlScreenMacroLibrary-ftl-tp1694238p1694333.html

Adrian Crum wrote:

> --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Adam Heath <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> That's not a useful response.  "Just trust me" is not
>> helpful.  If you
>> know why something will work, and someone obvious
>> doesn't(me), then
>> just go ahead and explain it.  Doing a bunch of
>> hand-waving just gives
>> the hand-waver a feeling of superiority, and makes the
>> receiver feel
>> inferior.
>
> One of the things I try to do whenever the opportunity presents
> itself, is to meet other OFBiz developers in person. I believe
> doing so helps us understand each other better.
>
> One of the drawbacks with mailing list collaboration is the
> inability to know the other collaborators personally. That leads
> to messages having feelings and motives assigned to them that
> don't belong there. This is one of those cases.

You're on my short list.........





of people I'd like to meet in person.

> I don't feel superior to any other developer. In my mind we are
> all peers. In this particular reply, I was viewing *you* as being
> superior - you are a programming guru in my opinion. When you
> seemed puzzled by (what I thought was) a very simple code
> construct, I *assumed* you just hadn't looked at it carefully
> enough and I was sure it would make sense if you just looked at
> it again, or tried it out on your local copy. I would have
> explained it in more detail to anyone else.

I wasn't puzzled by it.  From a very quick glance, I knew that it
would have problems with real-world parameters.  I was just trying to
get you to explain to me what you were trying to do.

It's been my experience over the years, that when you try to explain
to someone else, that you discover that what you think isn't really
the case.  Both Ean and I have gotten stuck on problems, as no sooner
do we start the pair programming thing, and try to explain to the
other what is happening, that we go "oh, duh, there it is." and we
move on.

I was just trying to get you to see that, by explaining to me what the
code did.

It's true that my initial example was wrong; if I had used a better
one, you may have seen the issue earlier.

> I apologize if I made you feel slighted. That wasn't my
> intention. It is never my intention to offend anyone or to appear
> to take a superior role. If I come across that way, then I am not
> aware of it and I truly appreciate it when someone points it out
> to me.

Oh, I wasn't slighted at all.  What you saw there was my special
style, of trying to word things to not target any one person, or any
one situation.  Trying to make my explanations be helpful to anyone
who happens to read it now, or at some future point.