http://ofbiz.116.s1.nabble.com/Reviewing-the-links-of-the-main-ofbiz-org-site-tp172431p172435.html
(we'll probably give it another couple of days to settle first). That
> My bad - it's up, but running slowly.
>
>
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz.org+New+Site+Plan>
> Cheers,
> Tim
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> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
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http://www.hotwaxmedia.com>
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> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>> I was just thinking about this today - and wanted to point
>> everyone in the direction of a mighty empty Wiki page that we
>> started a while back to facilitate this discussion.
>> Currently I can't get to the Wiki at docs.ofbiz.org - as I'm sure
>> that Confluence is probably hung up. Could someone give it a kick?
>>
>> Anyways, when it's back up - there is a page already started with
>> some interesting questions (offered up by Si Chen a while back)
>> that I think that we should answer in order to understand where
>> we're headed.
>>
>> The audience will be such a large driving force in the general
>> reorganization of this information - that we need to understand
>> who we're talking to first. Just my two cents.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>>
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com>>
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>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> I very much agree that the ofbiz.org web site could use some
>>> improvement, although I rather think that at this point it needs
>>> more of a planned re-design rather than iterative improvements.
>>>
>>> First maybe some background of the current site:
>>>
>>> 1. the structure of the site, except for reorganizing and adding
>>> some color to the home page about a year and a half ago (looks
>>> like April 2005), has not changed in a few years and is basically
>>> the original structure of the site
>>>
>>> 2. the intent of the web site from the beginning of the project
>>> has been to serve the needs of developers and hopefully attract
>>> contributors, ie people that are detail oriented and have the
>>> skills and/or interest necessary to be able, and likely to,
>>> contribute to the project in a meaningful way
>>>
>>> 3. the project is now reaching a point where we do want to
>>> attract more end-users that will likely not contribute directly
>>> to the project, or even interact directly with it, but that are
>>> certainly still extremely important to the long term success and
>>> stability of the project
>>>
>>> 4. the web site has been created and maintained by a single
>>> person (yours truly and sincerely) with little feedback except
>>> for occasional small mistakes or needs for change or
>>> contributions like testimonials and case studies (which we could
>>> use a LOT more of); the person who has created and is maintaining
>>> the site has done quite a bit of research on web site usability
>>> including reviewing various case studies (the current "big page"
>>> design for the home page was based on a case study of amazon.com)
>>> and studied human-computer interaction in his one semester of
>>> graduate school, and so he knows very well that one of the big
>>> problems with the current site is that it has had no usability
>>> studies, and not enough feedback from actual users to substitute
>>> for that; he is also not a graphic designer and has demonstrated
>>> this by creating the current layout and color scheme of the ofbiz
>>> site
>>>
>>> Because of this history of the site and the changing direction of
>>> the project, my opinion is that instead of starting with what
>>> we've got and talking about moving things around, perhaps we
>>> should start with more of a blank slate and talk about what we'd
>>> like the site to look like, and then after something is in place
>>> there review the current stuff and decide where everything should
>>> go (including a trash bin option...).
>>>
>>> With iterative changes at this point, like the ones you've
>>> proposed which are individually good, I think it could hide
>>> resources or make the site more difficult to navigate for a
>>> while, ie until it finally settles down, and during that period
>>> it could be even worse than it is now in terms of usability, find-
>>> ability, et cetera.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> what about simplifying the main page of the OFBiz website:
>>>>
>>>>
http://incubator.apache.org/ofbiz/>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> I've started reviewing the links in the left column (that for
>>>> your convenience I've copied at the bottom of this message), and
>>>> I think that some of them are unnecessary and can be removed or
>>>> at least moved to a new web page named "Misc Resources" (or
>>>> something like this).
>>>>
>>>> In detail:
>>>>
>>>> 1) the section "Cool Sites" could be removed
>>>>
>>>> 2) the sections "Apache OFBiz Communities" and "Apache OFBiz
>>>> Related Blogs" could be moved to the new "Resources" page
>>>>
>>>> 3) in the "What is OFBiz?" section, the links "Brochures",
>>>> "Conference Videos" and "Framework Intro Videos" should be moved
>>>> to the
http://incubator.apache.org/ofbiz/documents.html page
>>>>
>>>> 4) in the "Download OFBiz" section:
>>>> 4a) the links "Getting And Using OFBiz", "Production Setup
>>>> Guide", should be moved to the
http://incubator.apache.org/ofbiz/
>>>> documents.html page
>>>> 4b) the "Documentation" link can be removed
>>>> 4c) the "Release Notes" link can be removed (or hidden) because
>>>> it the referenced document is too old
>>>> 4d) the "Download Releases" link should be hidden or should
>>>> point to the new (temp) folder where the RC1 is stored: I think
>>>> that the reference to the OLD sourceforge release can be very
>>>> confusing for new users
>>>>
>>>> 5) in the "Resources & Tools" section:
>>>> 5a) add a new link to the new "Misc Resources" page (that needs
>>>> to be created)
>>>> 5b) move the "Old Mailing Lists", "The Old Java.net Site",
>>>> "The Old SourceForge.net Site", "Old Wiki" links to the new
>>>> "Misc Resources" page
>>>> 5c) remove the "Old Jira (Issue Tracker)" link
>>>> 5d) all the following links can be moved (they are already in
>>>> the "documentation" page): "Documentation (Confluence)",
>>>> "Production Setup Guide", "Documentation" (maybe we could leave
>>>> just this), "Conference Videos"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ===================================================
>>>> ***What is OFBiz?***
>>>>
>>>> General Overview
>>>> Is OFBiz for Me?
>>>> Feature List
>>>> Features Coming Soon
>>>> Brochures
>>>> Documentation
>>>> Conference Videos
>>>> Framework Intro Videos
>>>>
>>>> ***Demo Site***
>>>>
>>>> Extended Demo by Open Travel System
>>>> eCommerce Demo
>>>> Management Console
>>>> Hotel Frontend
>>>> Hotel Backend
>>>>
>>>> ***Download OFBiz***
>>>>
>>>> Getting And Using OFBiz (PDF)
>>>> Production Setup Guide
>>>> Source Access (Recommended)
>>>> Release Notes
>>>> Download Releases
>>>> Weekly Builds
>>>> Documentation
>>>> Copyright & License
>>>>
>>>> ***Resources & Tools***
>>>>
>>>> Apache Incubator Status
>>>> dev Mailing List
>>>> user Mailing List
>>>> commits Mailing List
>>>> Old Mailing Lists
>>>> Apache OFBiz - Jira (Issue Tracker)
>>>> Old Jira (Issue Tracker)
>>>> SVN (Source Repository)
>>>> Documentation (Confluence)
>>>> Docs Site: Wiki
>>>> Old Wiki
>>>> Production Setup Guide
>>>> Documentation
>>>> Conference Videos
>>>> The Old Java.net Site
>>>> The Old SourceForge.net Site
>>>>
>>>> ***Apache OFBiz Related Blogs***
>>>>
>>>> OFBiz and Open Source by David E. Jones
>>>> What's New in OFBiz by Si Chen
>>>>
>>>> ***Apache OFBiz Communities***
>>>>
>>>> Locales
>>>> United Kingdom
>>>> Germany
>>>> France
>>>> Netherlands
>>>> China
>>>> Industries
>>>> Government
>>>> Travel
>>>>
>>>> ***Cool Sites***
>>>>
>>>> Java.Net
>>>> SourceForge
>>>> FreshMeat
>>>> NewsForge
>>>> Slashdot
>>>> JavaLobby
>>>> TheServerSide
>>