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Hans Bakker

ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

Can you please have a look at the branch:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt

we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate framework
component and could speedup reporting significantly.

to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following url:

http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y

and the log entries:
svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
-r831209:HEAD

The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development system
and therefore has an Apache compatible license.

regards,
Hans

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Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....

Scott Gray-2

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

Hi Hans

I haven't looked at the branch and I know nothing about birt but I do
have some questions:

Other than the branch itself is there any documentation about this
component, how it works and what it acheives?

How does it relate to the existing BI component? Is it going to make
that component redundant?

Has any effort been put into looking at other reporting utilities or
are we just dumping this into the framework because it's (arguably)
ready to go? Does it need to go into the framework or could it work
just as well as a special purpose component which might make for
easier replacement later on? If not, why not?

Regards
Scott

On 10/11/2009, at 5:01 PM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Can you please have a look at the branch:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
>
>
> we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate framework
> component and could speedup reporting significantly.
>
> to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following url:
>
> http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y
>
> and the log entries:
> svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
> -r831209:HEAD
>
> The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development
> system
> and therefore has an Apache compatible license.
>
> regards,
> Hans
>
>
> --
> http://www.antwebsystems.com :
> Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....
>

Jacopo Cappellato-4

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

In reply to this post by Hans Bakker

Hi Hans,

frankly speaking I had no time to play with your integration or with
Birt in general, but I have a question: what kind of integration you
did? I mean, what is the architectural strategy for the integration,
what is the custom code you wrote?
If you could send me the links to the custom code in svn this would be
enough (if possible with some quick notes from you).
Also, do you have an example of an OFBiz report that makes use of the
integration?

Thank you,

Jacopo

On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

hans_bakker

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

Jacopo,

download the branch, look in webtools, there is an example and help
screens.

Regards,
Hans

On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:12 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> frankly speaking I had no time to play with your integration or with
> Birt in general, but I have a question: what kind of integration you
> did? I mean, what is the architectural strategy for the integration,
> what is the custom code you wrote?
> If you could send me the links to the custom code in svn this would be
> enough (if possible with some quick notes from you).
> Also, do you have an example of an OFBiz report that makes use of the
> integration?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > Can you please have a look at the branch:
> >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
> >
> >
> > we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate framework
> > component and could speedup reporting significantly.
> >
> > to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following url:
> >
> > http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y
> >
> > and the log entries:
> > svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
> > -r831209:HEAD
> >
> > The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development
> > system
> > and therefore has an Apache compatible license.
> >
> > regards,
> > Hans
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.antwebsystems.com :
> > Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....
> >
>

--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates

Jacopo Cappellato-4

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

Hans,

would you be so kind to point me to the right file from here?

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt/framework/webtools/

Thank you

Jacopo

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Jacopo,
>
> download the branch, look in webtools, there is an example and help
> screens.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:12 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> frankly speaking I had no time to play with your integration or with
>> Birt in general, but I have a question: what kind of integration you
>> did? I mean, what is the architectural strategy for the integration,
>> what is the custom code you wrote?
>> If you could send me the links to the custom code in svn this would
>> be
>> enough (if possible with some quick notes from you).
>> Also, do you have an example of an OFBiz report that makes use of the
>> integration?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> Can you please have a look at the branch:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
>>>
>>>
>>> we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate
>>> framework
>>> component and could speedup reporting significantly.
>>>
>>> to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following url:
>>>
>>> http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y
>>>
>>> and the log entries:
>>> svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
>>> -r831209:HEAD
>>>
>>> The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development
>>> system
>>> and therefore has an Apache compatible license.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.antwebsystems.com :
>>> Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....
>>>
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>

hans_bakker

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

You probably already found it, it is now a secondary application
accessible in the same row as webtools.....

Regards,
Hans

On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:45 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Hans,
>
> would you be so kind to point me to the right file from here?
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt/framework/webtools/
>
> Thank you
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > download the branch, look in webtools, there is an example and help
> > screens.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hans
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:12 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >> Hi Hans,
> >>
> >> frankly speaking I had no time to play with your integration or with
> >> Birt in general, but I have a question: what kind of integration you
> >> did? I mean, what is the architectural strategy for the integration,
> >> what is the custom code you wrote?
> >> If you could send me the links to the custom code in svn this would
> >> be
> >> enough (if possible with some quick notes from you).
> >> Also, do you have an example of an OFBiz report that makes use of the
> >> integration?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>
> >>> Can you please have a look at the branch:
> >>>
> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate
> >>> framework
> >>> component and could speedup reporting significantly.
> >>>
> >>> to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following url:
> >>>
> >>> http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y
> >>>
> >>> and the log entries:
> >>> svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
> >>> -r831209:HEAD
> >>>
> >>> The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development
> >>> system
> >>> and therefore has an Apache compatible license.
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.antwebsystems.com :
> >>> Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....
> >>>
> >>
> > --
> > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >
>

--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates

Ean Schuessler

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

In reply to this post by Scott Gray-2

Just wanted to weigh in here from a Brainfood perspective. Brainfood is
very interested in using BIRT to solve reporting problems for customers.

I am more interested in BIRT than Jasper Reports for several reasons
including: good Eclipse integration which is good for in-house IT
reporting capabilities in a customer, prefer the CPL over the LGPL,
Google appears to favor BIRT by granting it a higher result count. If I
had another high level contender for reporting it would be generating
OpenOffice documents because of the much better WYSIWYG content layout
tools that OpenOffice provides. The license of OpenOffice is problematic
for OFBiz so BIRT is the better choice for the project. Arguably,
however, one could do some things to generate ODF format documents and
ignore the fact that OpenOffice is the defacto standard for rendering them.

I know some about the BIRT architecture and believe its calculated
report feeds offer the ability to pull data directly from the
EntityEngine. I haven't had time to examine Hans' implementation but I
am very curious about it.

My $0.02

Scott Gray wrote:

> I haven't looked at the branch and I know nothing about birt but I do
> have some questions:
>
> Other than the branch itself is there any documentation about this
> component, how it works and what it acheives?
>
> How does it relate to the existing BI component? Is it going to make
> that component redundant?
>
> Has any effort been put into looking at other reporting utilities or
> are we just dumping this into the framework because it's (arguably)
> ready to go? Does it need to go into the framework or could it work
> just as well as a special purpose component which might make for
> easier replacement later on? If not, why not?

Jacopo Cappellato-4

Re: ADAM, SCOTT and others who feel strong (+/-) about adding BIRT to the trunk.

In reply to this post by hans_bakker

Do you mean this one:

<webapp name="birt"
title="BIRT"
menu-name="secondary"
server="default-server"
location="webapp/birt"
base-permission="OFBTOOLS,WEBTOOLS"
mount-point="/birt"/>

?

Regards,

Jacopo

On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:34 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> You probably already found it, it is now a secondary application
> accessible in the same row as webtools.....
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:45 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> would you be so kind to point me to the right file from here?
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt/framework/webtools/
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> Jacopo,
>>>
>>> download the branch, look in webtools, there is an example and help
>>> screens.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:12 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> frankly speaking I had no time to play with your integration or
>>>> with
>>>> Birt in general, but I have a question: what kind of integration
>>>> you
>>>> did? I mean, what is the architectural strategy for the
>>>> integration,
>>>> what is the custom code you wrote?
>>>> If you could send me the links to the custom code in svn this would
>>>> be
>>>> enough (if possible with some quick notes from you).
>>>> Also, do you have an example of an OFBiz report that makes use of
>>>> the
>>>> integration?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you please have a look at the branch:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we would like to add it to the trunk, Birt is now a separate
>>>>> framework
>>>>> component and could speedup reporting significantly.
>>>>>
>>>>> to look at the the changes in this branch look at the following
>>>>> url:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/search/ofbiz/branches/addbirt?comment=&contents=&addedText=&deletedText=&filename=&branch=addbirt&tag=&fromdate=2009-10-31T00%3A00%3A00&todate=&groupby=changeset&col=path&col=revision&col=author&col=date&col=csid&refresh=y
>>>>>
>>>>> and the log entries:
>>>>> svn log https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/addbirt
>>>>> -r831209:HEAD
>>>>>
>>>>> The BIRT component is completely part of the Eclipse development
>>>>> system
>>>>> and therefore has an Apache compatible license.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.antwebsystems.com :
>>>>> Quality OFBiz support for competitive rates....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>