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Hi All, Adrian,
Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been advertised on the user ML! One point, I read: <<The Best Practice to follow is: “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall screen that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and content pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. But the tutorial found on the Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the screen and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any other screen.>> It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in general. Thanks Jacques |
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It's a pity nobody cares about this tutorial. Wrong or not up to date documentation is worse than no documentation. Moreover this tutorial is/was a
most important piece for newcomers discovery. Still hoping feedback... Jacques Le 09/05/2015 11:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Hi All, Adrian, > > Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been advertised on the user ML! > > One point, I read: > > <<The Best Practice to follow is: > “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata > preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall screen > that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and content > pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ > > In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the > screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. > > But the tutorial found on the Wiki: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide > does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the screen > and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not > reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any other screen.>> > > It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). > > Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? > > Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in general. > > Thanks > > Jacques > |
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Hello Jacques,
Please hold on for sometime. Pranay is on leave since last few days and I am sure he will post comment here as he is back to work. I hope you are not in hurry? Thanks! -- Kind Regards Ashish Vijaywargiya HotWax Systems - est. 1997 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > It's a pity nobody cares about this tutorial. Wrong or not up to date > documentation is worse than no documentation. Moreover this tutorial is/was > a most important piece for newcomers discovery. > > Still hoping feedback... > > Jacques > > > Le 09/05/2015 11:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> Hi All, Adrian, >> >> Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been >> advertised on the user ML! >> >> One point, I read: >> >> <<The Best Practice to follow is: >> “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata >> preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall >> screen >> that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and >> content >> pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ >> >> In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the >> screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. >> >> But the tutorial found on the Wiki: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide >> does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the >> screen >> and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not >> reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any >> other screen.>> >> >> It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this >> is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). >> >> Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer >> maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? >> >> Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in >> general. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> |
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Thanks Ashish :)
This clarifies all, so please also forget my next message for Pranay (about a commit and Jira) Jacques Le 14/05/2015 11:41, Ashish Vijaywargiya a écrit : > Hello Jacques, > > Please hold on for sometime. Pranay is on leave since last few days and I > am sure he will post comment here as he is back to work. I hope you are not > in hurry? > > Thanks! > > -- > Kind Regards > Ashish Vijaywargiya > HotWax Systems - est. 1997 > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> It's a pity nobody cares about this tutorial. Wrong or not up to date >> documentation is worse than no documentation. Moreover this tutorial is/was >> a most important piece for newcomers discovery. >> >> Still hoping feedback... >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 09/05/2015 11:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> Hi All, Adrian, >>> >>> Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been >>> advertised on the user ML! >>> >>> One point, I read: >>> >>> <<The Best Practice to follow is: >>> “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata >>> preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall >>> screen >>> that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and >>> content >>> pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ >>> >>> In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the >>> screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. >>> >>> But the tutorial found on the Wiki: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide >>> does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the >>> screen >>> and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not >>> reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any >>> other screen.>> >>> >>> It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this >>> is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). >>> >>> Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer >>> maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? >>> >>> Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in >>> general. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> |
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Thanks Jacques, I have been thinking to rewrite the tutorial. Planning to
start writing the new one shortly, please stay tuned. This time I am thinking to do it differently- 1. Download and Setup - Clearly outlining system hardware requirements. 2. Developing Custom Apps 3. Customizations to Existing Apps Also thinking to create videos for the same which can be embedded within tutorial itself. Depending on preference by the learner he can choose his/her source of learning OFBiz(Tutorial Doc or Videos). If you or anyone have recommendations around it, lets discuss on this thread. I strongly believe the time has come when this tutorial should be rewritten. Best regards, Pranay Pandey HotWax Systems http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/ skype: pranay.pandey cell: +91 982.603.5576 On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, Adrian, > > Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been > advertised on the user ML! > > One point, I read: > > <<The Best Practice to follow is: > “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata > preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall > screen > that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and > content > pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ > > In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the > screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. > > But the tutorial found on the Wiki: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide > does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the > screen > and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not > reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any > other screen.>> > > It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this > is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). > > Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer > maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? > > Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in > general. > > Thanks > > Jacques > |
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That sounds great Pranay!
Jacques Le 16/05/2015 14:58, Pranay Pandey a écrit : > Thanks Jacques, I have been thinking to rewrite the tutorial. Planning to > start writing the new one shortly, please stay tuned. > > This time I am thinking to do it differently- > 1. Download and Setup - Clearly outlining system hardware requirements. > 2. Developing Custom Apps > 3. Customizations to Existing Apps > > Also thinking to create videos for the same which can be embedded within > tutorial itself. Depending on preference by the learner he can choose > his/her source of learning OFBiz(Tutorial Doc or Videos). > > If you or anyone have recommendations around it, lets discuss on this > thread. I strongly believe the time has come when this tutorial should be > rewritten. > > > Best regards, > > Pranay Pandey > HotWax Systems > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/ > skype: pranay.pandey > cell: +91 982.603.5576 > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi All, Adrian, >> >> Adrian I have looked at your ApacheCon 15 presentation, good it has been >> advertised on the user ML! >> >> One point, I read: >> >> <<The Best Practice to follow is: >> “When a screen is split up into multiple templates or screens thedata >> preparation action should be associated only with the individualsmall >> screen >> that it prepares data for. This makes it easier to move templates and >> content >> pieces around and reuse them in many places. “ >> >> In other words, the data preparation logic should be contained within the >> screen widget that renders it –including forms, menus, and trees. >> >> But the tutorial found on the Wiki: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide >> does not follow this best practice –the data preparation is done in the >> screen >> and not in the form that displays the data. Consequently, that form is not >> reusable –it will be empty (not contain any data) if it is used in any >> other screen.>> >> >> It seems that the Hotwax System contribution policy has changed and this >> is no longer maintained by them (was mostly Pranay). >> >> Pranay, HS team, could you please confirm this tutorial is no longer >> maintained by you and if we should rather link a page on HS blog? >> >> Of course I'm not thinking about only the point Adrian outlined, but in >> general. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> |
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