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This seems a good idea to me (did not review details yet), if nobody is against (no answer implies OK), I will commit Jacques |
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Jacques,
since in the past you have committed a series of contributions from others that were implemented in a questionable way and are requiring a considerable effort to be fixed, I would like to ask you to change your protocol for committing them to OFBiz: if you are interested in committing something, then review and test it completely; then ask committers to confirm that it is a good contribution and if no answer is received then please hold on because it means that no other committer was either interested or had time to review it. It is better to move slowly and focus on quality. What do the other committers think about this? Kind regards, Jacopo On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4944 > > This seems a good idea to me (did not review details yet), if nobody is against (no answer implies OK), I will commit > > Jacques |
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From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]>
> Jacques, > > since in the past you have committed a series of contributions from others that were implemented in a questionable way and are > requiring a considerable effort to be fixed, I would like to ask you to change your protocol for committing them to OFBiz: if you > are interested in committing something, then review and test it completely; then ask committers to confirm that it is a good > contribution and if no answer is received then please hold on because it means that no other committer was either interested or > had time to review it. > It is better to move slowly and focus on quality. I usually test and review what I commit Jacques > What do the other committers think about this? > > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > > On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4944 >> >> This seems a good idea to me (did not review details yet), if nobody is against (no answer implies OK), I will commit >> >> Jacques > > |
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I think in general, Jacques does an excellent job, however if you do a
lot of commits, yes sure you have more errors than if you only do a few. If he would not be here, hardly anything gets committed from contributors. For very complicated (framework) contributions I agree however simple ones and in the applications I do not agree. Regards, Hans On 07/01/2012 03:37 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > Jacques, > > since in the past you have committed a series of contributions from others that were implemented in a questionable way and are requiring a considerable effort to be fixed, I would like to ask you to change your protocol for committing them to OFBiz: if you are interested in committing something, then review and test it completely; then ask committers to confirm that it is a good contribution and if no answer is received then please hold on because it means that no other committer was either interested or had time to review it. > It is better to move slowly and focus on quality. > > What do the other committers think about this? > > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > > On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4944 >> >> This seems a good idea to me (did not review details yet), if nobody is against (no answer implies OK), I will commit >> >> Jacques |
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Thanks Hans,
I can agree on your propostion Jacopo, notably about time and quality, especially on framework where even a small change can have large side effects. Sometimes joint work can do marvel, like we did recently on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4289 Jacopo, but yes it requires time and respect. It's actually 2 years now that I constraint myself to commit prioritarily fixes over new features. It happens that some contributions fix an issue but introduce others (like for JMS). It's of course most annoying when at the framework level. Note that some errors in the framework are not detected immediately because they concern not often used features. Who to blame then, the one who introduced the initial error without noticing it (not always easy), or the one who fixed it later and introduced a new one (also not noticing it )? We immediatele see that this question does not make sense. We can't become fossilized because of fear. So we need more efforts from everyone, when it's about fixing issues in framework. Simply exchanging and answering questions would help to synchronize the efforts. In other words, I agree on your proposition Jacopo, but I also demand more participation of other committers. All contributions are not valuable, but there are too much valuable contributions waiting in Jira. Some with questions desesperately waiting answers, and I don't speak only about new features... I had to say it, even if I doubt it will have much effect Jacques From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]> >I think in general, Jacques does an excellent job, however if you do a lot of commits, yes sure you have more errors than if you >only do a few. If he would not be here, hardly anything gets committed from contributors. > > For very complicated (framework) contributions I agree however simple ones and in the applications I do not agree. > > Regards, > Hans > > On 07/01/2012 03:37 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >> Jacques, >> >> since in the past you have committed a series of contributions from others that were implemented in a questionable way and are >> requiring a considerable effort to be fixed, I would like to ask you to change your protocol for committing them to OFBiz: if you >> are interested in committing something, then review and test it completely; then ask committers to confirm that it is a good >> contribution and if no answer is received then please hold on because it means that no other committer was either interested or >> had time to review it. >> It is better to move slowly and focus on quality. >> >> What do the other committers think about this? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jacopo >> >> On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4944 >>> >>> This seems a good idea to me (did not review details yet), if nobody is against (no answer implies OK), I will commit >>> >>> Jacques > > |
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