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Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon:
http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf -- Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com |
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Thanks Adrian.
How did it you experience the event and your session? Would love to hear from all presenters and attendees how it went down... Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Adrian Crum < [hidden email]> wrote: > Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: > > http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/ > documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf > > -- > Adrian Crum > Sandglass Software > www.sandglass-software.com > |
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The OFBiz presentations were informative. It was good to spend time with
fellow community members. After the sessions were over, we spent some time exchanging ideas and telling "war stories." The event staff were very helpful and accommodating. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 4/16/2015 11:52 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Thanks Adrian. > > How did it you experience the event and your session? Would love to hear > from all presenters and attendees how it went down... > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Adrian Crum < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >> >> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/ >> documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >> >> -- >> Adrian Crum >> Sandglass Software >> www.sandglass-software.com >> > |
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Hi Adrian,
I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the following: "A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic layout only." However, the tag <platform-specific><html><html-template location="..."></html></platform-specific> exists in thousands of locations all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz. I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that. Cheers, Taher Alkhateeb On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum < [hidden email]> wrote: > Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: > > http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/ > documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf > > -- > Adrian Crum > Sandglass Software > www.sandglass-software.com > |
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True, there are widget elements that allow you to use HTML-specific
artifacts, but those were created as a workaround. I don't agree that "no one is practicing this." There have been efforts in the past where FreeMarker templates were replaced with widgets. Also, there are many instances in the project where widgets are used to produce PDF and CSV files - so someone practiced "generic layout only" to create those files. Throughout my presentation, I used examples from the current trunk to demonstrate how NOT to do things. So, I don't believe that the current trunk is a good representation of best practices. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 4/16/2015 12:13 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the > following: > > "A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen > definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in > the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic > layout only." > > However, the tag <platform-specific><html><html-template > location="..."></html></platform-specific> exists in thousands of locations > all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems > like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz. > > I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it > seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform > more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that. > > Cheers, > > Taher Alkhateeb > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >> >> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/ >> documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >> >> -- >> Adrian Crum >> Sandglass Software >> www.sandglass-software.com >> > |
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Our code is ridden with (not shared) best practices.
Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Adrian Crum < [hidden email]> wrote: > True, there are widget elements that allow you to use HTML-specific > artifacts, but those were created as a workaround. > > I don't agree that "no one is practicing this." There have been efforts in > the past where FreeMarker templates were replaced with widgets. Also, there > are many instances in the project where widgets are used to produce PDF and > CSV files - so someone practiced "generic layout only" to create those > files. > > Throughout my presentation, I used examples from the current trunk to > demonstrate how NOT to do things. So, I don't believe that the current > trunk is a good representation of best practices. > > > Adrian Crum > Sandglass Software > www.sandglass-software.com > > On 4/16/2015 12:13 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: > >> Hi Adrian, >> >> I have a comment on your presentation. You have stated below slide 10 the >> following: >> >> "A common mistake new developers make is assuming these XML screen >> definitions will only output HTML – so they embed markup and JavaScript in >> the XML. That should never be done! These XML files describe a generic >> layout only." >> >> However, the tag <platform-specific><html><html-template >> location="..."></html></platform-specific> exists in thousands of >> locations >> all over the framework, core applications and specialpurpose. So it seems >> like the intention you mentioned above is not really applicable in OFBiz. >> >> I am wondering if this statement is realistic or applicable given that it >> seems no one is really practicing this and using OFBiz as an HTML platform >> more than anything else. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on that. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Taher Alkhateeb >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Adrian Crum < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >>> >>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/ >>> documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >>> >>> -- >>> Adrian Crum >>> Sandglass Software >>> www.sandglass-software.com >>> >>> >> |
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Thanks Adrian!
Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? Jacques Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : > Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: > > http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf > |
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On 16/04/2015 6:41 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: > > http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf > > Very nice. Good explanation of why the Best Practices are best practices. What has to be done to fix the Wiki to remove "Second Best Practices" from our advice to new developers? Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: [hidden email] skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 |
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Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Thanks Adrian! > > Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter and Sharan :) Jacques > > Jacques > > Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : >> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >> >> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >> > |
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So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion?
Best regards. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> Thanks Adrian! >> >> Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? >> > > No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter > and Sharan :) > > Jacques > > > >> Jacques >> >> Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : >> >>> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >>> >>> >>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >>> >>> >> |
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For the last apache Con we gathered all slideshows here : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+EU+2014+in+Budapest%2C+Hungary+Nov+17th+-+Nov+19th+2014 Could be a good way to keep them. Gil On 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits
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So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion? Best regards. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote:Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :Thanks Adrian! Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki?No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter and Sharan :) JacquesJacques Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit :Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf |
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Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there
As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :) Jacques Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit : > So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion? > > Best regards. > > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> Thanks Adrian! >>> >>> Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? >>> >> No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter >> and Sharan :) >> >> Jacques >> >> >> >>> Jacques >>> >>> Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : >>> >>>> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >>>> >>>> |
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Le 17/04/2015 10:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there > > As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :) Ha wait I misread Gil, ApachCon 2015 is not there yet... Jacques > > Jacques > > Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion? >> >> Best regards. >> >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>>> Thanks Adrian! >>>> >>>> Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? >>>> >>> No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter >>> and Sharan :) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >>>>> >>>>> > |
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Yeah the table is here but
without the slideshows.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015 I'll add its to this page when i have some time. Gil On 17/04/2015 10:03, Jacques Le Roux
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Le 17/04/2015 11:13, gil portenseigne a écrit :
> Yeah the table is here but without the slideshows. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+track+@+Apachecon+US+2015+in+Texas%2C+Austin+-++April+13-17%2C+2015 > > I'll add its to this page when i have some time. > > Gil > > On 17/04/2015 10:03, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> Le 17/04/2015 10:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> Did you look at it? It's the last tweet in the timeline, there is a link to all ASF presentations, look for OFBiz ones there >>> To be clear I meant this tweet https://twitter.com/ApacheOfbiz/status/588722561753690112 From there we can update above, thanks for the link GIl! Jacques >>> As said Gil, OFBiz ones are also in the wiki for the sake of history :) >> >> Ha wait I misread Gil, ApachCon 2015 is not there yet... >> >> Jacques >> >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> Le 17/04/2015 07:46, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> So it is in a tweet? Won't that run off screen and get lost in oblivion? >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Le 16/04/2015 14:44, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Adrian! >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we could share all the slideshows in some place in the wiki? >>>>>> >>>>> No need, it's on the main site http://ofbiz.apache.org/ thanks to Twitter >>>>> and Sharan :) >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 16/04/2015 12:41, Adrian Crum a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the slideshow from my presentation at ApacheCon: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.sandglass-software.com/products/sandglass/documents/2015_ApacheCon_Reduced.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> > |
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Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names!
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This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations,
Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were thoughtful, informative & interactive too, thanks to all the presenters. Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf Regards Sakthi On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were > informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names! > > - Darrell > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-2015-tp4666648p4666774.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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Thanks Sakthi,
I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides Jacques Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit : > This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations, > Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were > thoughtful, informative & interactive too, thanks to all the presenters. > > Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link > http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf > > Regards > Sakthi > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were >> informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names! >> >> - Darrell >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-2015-tp4666648p4666774.html >> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> |
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Yea Jacques, i had problems uploading in http://events.linuxfoundation.org
and i was asked to send the slide deck via email for someone from linuxfoundation group to upload in the site, which i did, but somehow this got slipped, Regards On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks Sakthi, > > I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides > > Jacques > > > Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit : > >> This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations, >> Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were >> thoughtful, informative & interactive too, thanks to all the presenters. >> >> Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link >> >> http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf >> >> Regards >> Sakthi >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were >>> informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names! >>> >>> - Darrell >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-2015-tp4666648p4666774.html >>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> |
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Le 20/04/2015 11:16, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit : > Yea Jacques, i had problems uploading in http://events.linuxfoundation.org > and i was asked to send the slide deck via email for someone from > linuxfoundation group to upload in the site, which i did, but somehow this > got slipped, Oh, maybe it's then just delayed, I read on another ASF ML that others are waiting too Thanks! Jacques > > Regards > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Thanks Sakthi, >> >> I was looking for it at but did not find it with the others at >> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 20/04/2015 03:21, Sakthivel Vellingiri a écrit : >> >>> This was my time at ApacheCon and thoroughly enjoyed the presentations, >>> Pleased to meet the fellow Ofbiz members. Ofbiz presentations were >>> thoughtful, informative & interactive too, thanks to all the presenters. >>> >>> Please feel free to access my slide deck in the included link >>> >>> http://www.integrines.com/resources/documents/CanOFBizStandStringentRequirementsOfPharmaManufacturing.pdf >>> >>> Regards >>> Sakthi >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM, darrell73s <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks to Adrian and all of the other presenters. The sessions were >>>> informative, and it was good to finally put some faces to the names! >>>> >>>> - Darrell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-2015-tp4666648p4666774.html >>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> |
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