Configuring Eclipse to work with OFBiz (Jacques?)

[Ted Byers]

On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Eclipse+Tips, it is
written:

If you want to do the SVN pull from within Eclipse, use the following steps:

First you need to install Subclipse

see Installation Instructions for Eclipse 3.x Then connect to the
repository:


I installed the latest version of Eclipse, on my OpenSuse 13.1
workstation.  I selected 'Install New Software' from the help sub-menu, and
within that dialog, I told it to use all repositories.  In the list of
software (both installed and not) Subclipse was nowhere to be found.

When I went to the Subclipse web pages, it said Subclipse is normally
installed from within Eclipse.

The question becomes 'How can this be done if Eclipse doesn`t list it as
being available to be installed, even when it is told to use ALL
repositories?'  Did I miss something?

NB: WRT Eclipse, I am effectively a newby as I haven`t even looked at it in
the better part of a decade (that long ago, I had opted for NetBeans
instead).

Assuming I get Subclipse installed, is there any other software available
for use with Eclipse that you would recommend (and why?)?  What do you
think of the modelling tools availabel for Eclipse, and their potential for
producing updated UML documentation for OFBiz?

Thanks

Ted

--
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.

[Ron Wheeler]

You might find that the Eclipse STS from http://spring.io/tools is a
version 4.3 Eclipse with all of the plug-ins that you need to develop
Java apps makes it easy to add Subversive which has replaced Subclipse
for most people.
It knows how to add Subversive which makes it easy to get started quickly.

We moved from Eclipse to Eclipse/STS several years ago when we found
that we were losing days to fix up each new version of Eclipse and had a
lot of trouble in a small shop trying to develop software development  
processes when each person was using a different set of plug-ins.
Eclipse STS solved all of that and made installing a new version of
Eclipse a 15 minute process instead of days of screwing about with plug-ins.
Install Eclipse/STS, add Subversive using the links on the dashboard and
get back to productive work.

Ron


On 11/06/2014 8:06 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Eclipse+Tips, it is
> written:
>
> If you want to do the SVN pull from within Eclipse, use the following steps:
>
> First you need to install Subclipse
>
> see Installation Instructions for Eclipse 3.x Then connect to the
> repository:
>
>
> I installed the latest version of Eclipse, on my OpenSuse 13.1
> workstation.  I selected 'Install New Software' from the help sub-menu, and
> within that dialog, I told it to use all repositories.  In the list of
> software (both installed and not) Subclipse was nowhere to be found.
>
> When I went to the Subclipse web pages, it said Subclipse is normally
> installed from within Eclipse.
>
> The question becomes 'How can this be done if Eclipse doesn`t list it as
> being available to be installed, even when it is told to use ALL
> repositories?'  Did I miss something?
>
> NB: WRT Eclipse, I am effectively a newby as I haven`t even looked at it in
> the better part of a decade (that long ago, I had opted for NetBeans
> instead).
>
> Assuming I get Subclipse installed, is there any other software available
> for use with Eclipse that you would recommend (and why?)?  What do you
> think of the modelling tools availabel for Eclipse, and their potential for
> producing updated UML documentation for OFBiz?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: [hidden email]
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: [phone], ext 102

[Ted Byers]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Ron Wheeler <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> You might find that the Eclipse STS from http://spring.io/tools is a
> version 4.3 Eclipse with all of the plug-ins that you need to develop Java
> apps makes it easy to add Subversive which has replaced Subclipse for most
> people.
> It knows how to add Subversive which makes it easy to get started quickly.
>
> We moved from Eclipse to Eclipse/STS several years ago when we found that
> we were losing days to fix up each new version of Eclipse and had a lot of
> trouble in a small shop trying to develop software development  processes
> when each person was using a different set of plug-ins.
> Eclipse STS solved all of that and made installing a new version of
> Eclipse a 15 minute process instead of days of screwing about with plug-ins.
> Install Eclipse/STS, add Subversive using the links on the dashboard and
> get back to productive work.
>
> Ron
>
>

Thanks Ron,

That is helpful.  I take it that it needs no installation per se, but just
to run the STS executable in the sts-bundle directory.  Right?  It does
give me an error, though, saying that Plug-in
"org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable to
instantiate class
"org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"
Looking at the trace, it seems it can't find one or more class definitions.

Is that something to worry about?

I would also ask where I would find Subversiv, as I do not see it among the
software items in the install software dialog.  Do I have to add another
repository, or am I looking in the wrong place?

I did find a lot of documentation that I plan on working through, but I did
not find an installation guide.

And, I would ask you about other software I can install using that dialog:
what you'd recommend, and what you think of the modelling tools and their
potential for producing up to date UML diagrams (especially use case and
E-R diagrams) for the latest version OFBiz.

Thanks

Ted

[Ron Wheeler]

I normally download the installer
http://download.springsource.com/release/STS/3.5.1/dist/e4.3/spring-tool-suite-3.5.1.RELEASE-e4.3.2-win32-installer.exe
Run it and let it install Eclipse with the plug-ins.
I end up with a sts.exe file that I run.

I have not seen this error
Plug-in "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable
to instantiate class
"org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"

but
https://issuetracker.springsource.com/browse/STS-3712 describes a way to
get this to happen by using a folder with a space in the foldername.
Perhaps a "-" can have the same effect.
Try renaming the folder where it is installed.
If that does not fix it, try Googling the error message and see if
anything else shows up.

Subversive should be referenced from the Dashboard if my memory serves
me well (or at all).

If you add the Kepler release software site (it may already be there)
http://download.eclipse.org/releases/kepler
you will find Subversive listed under "Collaboration"

Ron

On 11/06/2014 9:27 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Ron Wheeler
> <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     You might find that the Eclipse STS from http://spring.io/tools is
>     a version 4.3 Eclipse with all of the plug-ins that you need to
>     develop Java apps makes it easy to add Subversive which has
>     replaced Subclipse for most people.
>     It knows how to add Subversive which makes it easy to get started
>     quickly.
>
>     We moved from Eclipse to Eclipse/STS several years ago when we
>     found that we were losing days to fix up each new version of
>     Eclipse and had a lot of trouble in a small shop trying to develop
>     software development  processes when each person was using a
>     different set of plug-ins.
>     Eclipse STS solved all of that and made installing a new version
>     of Eclipse a 15 minute process instead of days of screwing about
>     with plug-ins.
>     Install Eclipse/STS, add Subversive using the links on the
>     dashboard and get back to productive work.
>
>     Ron
>
>
> Thanks Ron,
>
> That is helpful.  I take it that it needs no installation per se, but
> just to run the STS executable in the sts-bundle directory.  Right?  
> It does give me an error, though, saying that Plug-in
> "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable to
> instantiate class
> "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"
> Looking at the trace, it seems it can't find one or more class
> definitions.
>
> Is that something to worry about?
>
> I would also ask where I would find Subversiv, as I do not see it
> among the software items in the install software dialog.  Do I have to
> add another repository, or am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> I did find a lot of documentation that//I plan on working through, but
> I did not find an installation guide.
>
> And, I would ask you about other software I can install using that
> dialog: what you'd recommend, and what you think of the modelling
> tools and their potential for producing up to date UML diagrams
> (especially use case and E-R diagrams) for the latest version OFBiz.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted

--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: [hidden email]
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: [phone], ext 102

Hi Ted,

Subclipse can also be installed by following
http://subclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectProcess?pageID=p4wYuA.

--
Vyom
On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Eclipse+Tips, it is
written:

If you want to do the SVN pull from within Eclipse, use the following steps:

First you need to install Subclipse

see Installation Instructions for Eclipse 3.x Then connect to the
repository:


I installed the latest version of Eclipse, on my OpenSuse 13.1
workstation.  I selected 'Install New Software' from the help sub-menu, and
within that dialog, I told it to use all repositories.  In the list of
software (both installed and not) Subclipse was nowhere to be found.

When I went to the Subclipse web pages, it said Subclipse is normally
installed from within Eclipse.

The question becomes 'How can this be done if Eclipse doesn`t list it as
being available to be installed, even when it is told to use ALL
repositories?'  Did I miss something?

NB: WRT Eclipse, I am effectively a newby as I haven`t even looked at it in
the better part of a decade (that long ago, I had opted for NetBeans
instead).

Assuming I get Subclipse installed, is there any other software available
for use with Eclipse that you would recommend (and why?)?  What do you
think of the modelling tools availabel for Eclipse, and their potential for
producing updated UML documentation for OFBiz?

Thanks

Ted

--
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.

[Ron Wheeler]

Other than the tools that come with Eclipse/STS, we only have 1 other
plug-in.

http://wireframesketcher.com/blog describes Wireframesketcher which is a
nice tool for designing user interfaces. Not free.

We use ArgoUML for our UML modelling. We have not really looked at the
Eclipse tools.

Ron

On 11/06/2014 9:27 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Ron Wheeler <[hidden email]
>> wrote:
>> You might find that the Eclipse STS from http://spring.io/tools is a
>> version 4.3 Eclipse with all of the plug-ins that you need to develop Java
>> apps makes it easy to add Subversive which has replaced Subclipse for most
>> people.
>> It knows how to add Subversive which makes it easy to get started quickly.
>>
>> We moved from Eclipse to Eclipse/STS several years ago when we found that
>> we were losing days to fix up each new version of Eclipse and had a lot of
>> trouble in a small shop trying to develop software development  processes
>> when each person was using a different set of plug-ins.
>> Eclipse STS solved all of that and made installing a new version of
>> Eclipse a 15 minute process instead of days of screwing about with plug-ins.
>> Install Eclipse/STS, add Subversive using the links on the dashboard and
>> get back to productive work.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
> Thanks Ron,
>
> That is helpful.  I take it that it needs no installation per se, but just
> to run the STS executable in the sts-bundle directory.  Right?  It does
> give me an error, though, saying that Plug-in
> "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable to
> instantiate class
> "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"
> Looking at the trace, it seems it can't find one or more class definitions.
>
> Is that something to worry about?
>
> I would also ask where I would find Subversiv, as I do not see it among the
> software items in the install software dialog.  Do I have to add another
> repository, or am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> I did find a lot of documentation that I plan on working through, but I did
> not find an installation guide.
>
> And, I would ask you about other software I can install using that dialog:
> what you'd recommend, and what you think of the modelling tools and their
> potential for producing up to date UML diagrams (especially use case and
> E-R diagrams) for the latest version OFBiz.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: [hidden email]
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: [phone], ext 102

[Ted Byers]

Hi Ron,

Thanks, but...


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Ron Wheeler <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> I normally download the installer http://download.springsource.
> com/release/STS/3.5.1/dist/e4.3/spring-tool-suite-3.5.1.
> RELEASE-e4.3.2-win32-installer.exe
> Run it and let it install Eclipse with the plug-ins.
> I end up with a sts.exe file that I run.
>
> That is the Windows installer.  Alas, it won't run on any version of
Linux.  On Linux, all you get is a gzipped tar file.  But I just put it in
a subdirectory in my home directory. I wonder if it ought to be in /opt or
/usr/local/...

I am using the latest JDK 1.7 that is availabel for OpenSuse 13.1, so that
ought not be a problem, and based on the information you provided, I
converted all '-' into '_' characters (and ensured there were no spaces),
but the error I mentioned persists.  Anyone out there working with this on
Linux?

> I have not seen this error
>
> Plug-in "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable
> to instantiate class "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.
> dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"
>
> but
> https://issuetracker.springsource.com/browse/STS-3712 describes a way to
> get this to happen by using a folder with a space in the foldername.
> Perhaps a "-" can have the same effect.
> Try renaming the folder where it is installed.
> If that does not fix it, try Googling the error message and see if
> anything else shows up.
>
> Subversive should be referenced from the Dashboard if my memory serves me
> well (or at all).
>
> Alas, it looks like I am not getting the dashboard because of the error I

mention above.  :-(


> If you add the Kepler release software site (it may already be there)
> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/kepler
> you will find Subversive listed under "Collaboration"
>
> Yes, that repository is already there, and I found Subversive there.
Thanks.

Thanks

Ted

> Ron
>
> On 11/06/2014 9:27 PM, Ted Byers wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@artifact-software.
>> com <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>     You might find that the Eclipse STS from http://spring.io/tools is
>>     a version 4.3 Eclipse with all of the plug-ins that you need to
>>     develop Java apps makes it easy to add Subversive which has
>>     replaced Subclipse for most people.
>>     It knows how to add Subversive which makes it easy to get started
>>     quickly.
>>
>>     We moved from Eclipse to Eclipse/STS several years ago when we
>>     found that we were losing days to fix up each new version of
>>     Eclipse and had a lot of trouble in a small shop trying to develop
>>     software development  processes when each person was using a
>>     different set of plug-ins.
>>     Eclipse STS solved all of that and made installing a new version
>>     of Eclipse a 15 minute process instead of days of screwing about
>>     with plug-ins.
>>     Install Eclipse/STS, add Subversive using the links on the
>>     dashboard and get back to productive work.
>>
>>     Ron
>>
>>
>> Thanks Ron,
>>
>> That is helpful.  I take it that it needs no installation per se, but
>> just to run the STS executable in the sts-bundle directory.  Right?  It
>> does give me an error, though, saying that Plug-in
>> "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted" was unable to
>> instantiate class "org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.gettingstarted.dashboard.WelcomeDashboard"
>> Looking at the trace, it seems it can't find one or more class definitions.
>>
>> Is that something to worry about?
>>
>> I would also ask where I would find Subversiv, as I do not see it among
>> the software items in the install software dialog.  Do I have to add
>> another repository, or am I looking in the wrong place?
>>
>> I did find a lot of documentation that//I plan on working through, but I
>> did not find an installation guide.
>>
>>
>> And, I would ask you about other software I can install using that
>> dialog: what you'd recommend, and what you think of the modelling tools and
>> their potential for producing up to date UML diagrams (especially use case
>> and E-R diagrams) for the latest version OFBiz.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ted
>>
>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: [hidden email]
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: [phone], ext 102
>
>

--
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.

[Ted Byers]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Ron Wheeler <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Other than the tools that come with Eclipse/STS, we only have 1 other
> plug-in.
>
> http://wireframesketcher.com/blog describes Wireframesketcher which is a
> nice tool for designing user interfaces. Not free.
>
> We use ArgoUML for our UML modelling. We have not really looked at the
> Eclipse tools.
>

Ah, OK.

Thanks

Ted