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Hi Guys,
I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved and give a link to the new page URL. [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions [2] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another [3] - https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro Sam |
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What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help
system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. this would accomplish a couple of things. 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: > Hi Guys, > > I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up > and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been > upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] > so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the > ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. > > There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we > want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could > either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise > keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved > and give a link to the new page URL. > > [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions > [2] - > http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another > [3] - https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro > > Sam > |
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Hi BJ,
My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people have created? Sam On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: > What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help > system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. > this would accomplish a couple of things. > 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz > 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though > I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. > > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: > > >> Hi Guys, >> >> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >> >> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could >> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >> and give a link to the new page URL. >> >> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >> [2] - >> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >> >> [3] - >> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >> >> Sam >> |
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I can see your point for technical
however I don't see a need to have searh engines index the user docs since once your in the app the help button gives you the help you need. just has to be populated. Plus the overall Help has a tree for navigating to the desired doc. Note: I see that the help on ofbiz has been changed to point to the wiki how disappointing ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: > Hi BJ, > > My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then > rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. > > I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of > OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they > are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org > which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for > OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that > you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people > have created? > > Sam > > > > On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help >> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >> this would accomplish a couple of things. >> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though >> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >> >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>> >>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could >>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>> >>> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>> [2] - >>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>> >>> [3] - >>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>> >>> Sam >>> > > |
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correction I was on the stable not the trunk
here is the link https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/showHelp?helpTopic=navigateHelp ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/28/2010 8:21 PM: > I can see your point for technical > however I don't see a need to have searh engines index the user docs > since once your in the app the help button gives you the help you need. > just has to be populated. > Plus the overall Help has a tree for navigating to the desired doc. > Note: I see that the help on ofbiz has been changed to point to the wiki > how disappointing > > ========================= > BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >> Hi BJ, >> >> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then >> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >> >> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of >> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >> have created? >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help >>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though >>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>> >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>> >>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>> could >>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>> >>>> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>> [2] - >>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>> >>>> >>>> [3] - >>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >> >> > > |
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Hi Sam,
From: "Sam Hamilton" <[hidden email]> > Hi Guys, > > I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up > and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been > upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] > so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the > ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. Yes that sounds like a plan indeed. We just need to get a consensus (should be ok I guess since it's better for the project) and organize ouselves in order to do the migration... > There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we > want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could > either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise > keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved > and give a link to the new page URL. I'd prefer to move forevermore. Maybe a bit more work but it would allow to reorganize better. It could be done by different persons for different spaces. We simply need to agree on what and how itr should be done. Jacques > [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions > [2] - > http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another > [3] - https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro > > Sam > |
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I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the
Help in the Demo I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to the proper place in ofbiz. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: > Hi BJ, > > My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then > rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. > > I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of > OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they > are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org > which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for > OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that > you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people > have created? > > Sam > > > > On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help >> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >> this would accomplish a couple of things. >> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though >> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >> >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>> >>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could >>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>> >>> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>> [2] - >>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>> >>> [3] - >>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>> >>> Sam >>> > > |
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Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into OFBiz
(this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the > Help in the Demo > I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. > two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. > Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to > the proper place in ofbiz. > > > ========================= > BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: > > > Hi BJ, >> >> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then >> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >> >> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of >> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >> have created? >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help >>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though >>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>> >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>> >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>> >>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could >>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>> >>>> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>> [2] - >>>> >>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>> >>>> [3] - >>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> >> >> |
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for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are logged in.
they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: > Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into OFBiz > (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). > Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? > > 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> > >> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the >> Help in the Demo >> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to >> the proper place in ofbiz. >> >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >> >> >> Hi BJ, >>> >>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and then >>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >>> >>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local deployment of >>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >>> have created? >>> >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> >>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz help >>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, though >>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to clean up >>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on groups [1] >>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>> >>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or if we >>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we could >>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>> >>>>> [1] - http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>> [2] - >>>>> >>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>> >>>>> [3] - >>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > |
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I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: > for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are logged in. > they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. > > ========================= > BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >> OFBiz >> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >> >> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >> >>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the >>> Help in the Demo >>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to >>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>> >>> >>> Hi BJ, >>>> >>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>> then >>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >>>> >>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>> deployment of >>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >>>> have created? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>> help >>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>> though >>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>> clean up >>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>> if we >>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>> could >>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] - >>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>> [2] - >>>>>> >>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [3] - >>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> > |
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Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own demo server
Jacques From: "Sam Hamilton" <[hidden email]> >I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= > > They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main > pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N > > > On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are logged in. >> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>> OFBiz >>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>> >>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>> >>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the >>>> Help in the Demo >>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to >>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi BJ, >>>>> >>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>> then >>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >>>>> >>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>> deployment of >>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >>>>> have created? >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>> help >>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>> though >>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>> if we >>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > |
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I like the way that the documentation is done in this website
http://www.torquepowered.com/documentation/torque-3d Looks more professional.
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I guess your right, I was looking at the access logs of my demo
I did do a search of google for ofbiz (compoent name)_ and got hits. such as Catalog Administration Main Page. Edit Catalog with Catalog ID: ... Powered by Apache OFBiz - Release-revision : trunk-987996; 8/24/10 5:43 AM - British ... demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?...ofbiz - Cached Real link: https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org:8443/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=demoadmin&PASSWORD=ofbiz it was #3 and Aug 20, 2010 ... OFBiz: Catalog Manager · Logout. Welcome THE PRIVILEGED ADMINISTRATOR[flexadmin]. Default Organization : Your Company Name Here [Company] ... https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/main?... - Cached real link: https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/main?externalLoginKey=EL181319230655 which supports that they are using the home page of ofbiz then going to other components could be the help is somewhere in the About 18,700 results ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/29/2010 5:52 PM: > I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= > > They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main > pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N > > > On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are logged in. >> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>> OFBiz >>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>> >>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>> >>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the >>>> Help in the Demo >>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to >>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>> >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi BJ, >>>>> >>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>> then >>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo OFBiz. >>>>> >>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>> deployment of >>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page that >>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts people >>>>> have created? >>>>> >>>>> Sam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>> help >>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>> though >>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way and the >>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>> if we >>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or otherwise >>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has moved >>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > > |
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here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run.
66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am guessing to go through ofbiz once. since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take some time to move up in ranking. as we continue to add content google will move it up. that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is changing every few days. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: > Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own > demo server > > Jacques > > From: "Sam Hamilton" <[hidden email]> >> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >> >> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >> >> >> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >> >> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >> >> >> >> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>> logged in. >>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>> OFBiz >>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>> >>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>> >>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>> parse the >>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>> someone to >>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>> >>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>> then >>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>> >>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>> deployment of >>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that they >>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>> that >>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>> people >>>>>> have created? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>> though >>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > |
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nice clean and lively
also a company with paid staff instead of volenteers. feel welcome to help with the Docs we have. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man james_sg sent the following on 8/30/2010 1:37 AM: > > I like the way that the documentation is done in this website > http://www.torquepowered.com/documentation/torque-3d > > Looks more professional. > > > > BJ Freeman wrote: >> >> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do parse the >> Help in the Demo >> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send someone to >> the proper place in ofbiz. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >> >> >> > |
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Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please
send me links I could not find them? Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. Sam On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: > here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. > 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET > /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false > HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; > +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" > > 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET > /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false > HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; > +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" > > 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET > /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false > HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; > +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" > > considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am > guessing to go through ofbiz once. > > since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take > some time to move up in ranking. > as we continue to add content google will move it up. > > that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is > changing every few days. > > ========================= > BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation > <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >> demo server >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Sam Hamilton" <[hidden email]> >>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>> >>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>> >>> >>> >>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>> >>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>> logged in. >>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>> >>>> ========================= >>>> BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>> OFBiz >>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>> >>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>> parse the >>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>> someone to >>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > |
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I don't have time to search the 18,000
+ links. I expect though as we add content and even put a last update date on the pages that it will start to show. I notice with the same search for ofbiz catalog that the wiki pages did not show for the Catalog manager. I expect they are also in the 18000+ links but because they are static(don't change) they are not very high in the ranking. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM: > Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please > send me links I could not find them? > > Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we > have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. > > Sam > > > On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: >> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am >> guessing to go through ofbiz once. >> >> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take >> some time to move up in ranking. >> as we continue to add content google will move it up. >> >> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is >> changing every few days. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >>> demo server >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Sam Hamilton"<[hidden email]> >>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>>> logged in. >>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>>> parse the >>>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>>> someone to >>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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google gets past the SSL problem
I have the same situation with my demo, since I have not yet got my certs put back in. Just like if you go to a site that the browser warns you, as long as the brower is not restarted you can bypass the warning and continue to see the site as normal. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM: > Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please > send me links I could not find them? > > Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we > have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. > > Sam > > > On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: >> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am >> guessing to go through ofbiz once. >> >> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take >> some time to move up in ranking. >> as we continue to add content google will move it up. >> >> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is >> changing every few days. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >>> demo server >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Sam Hamilton"<[hidden email]> >>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>>> logged in. >>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>>> parse the >>>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>>> someone to >>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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Hi Guys,
I have been thinking about this indexing problem - do you think its possible to build something like http://help.eclipse.org/ but at http://ofbiz.apache.org/help/ or suitable location outside the demo sites - I still think that google is having too hard a time getting into the demos? I am right in assuming that the eclipse help site is built on DocBook? We could replicate DocBook files between the two locations so that both a locally installed OFBiz user and someone googling for some information have it at their finger tips? Sam -----Original Message----- From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 18:01 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Confluence Space Merge google gets past the SSL problem I have the same situation with my demo, since I have not yet got my certs put back in. Just like if you go to a site that the browser warns you, as long as the brower is not restarted you can bypass the warning and continue to see the site as normal. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM: > Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please > send me links I could not find them? > > Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we > have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. > > Sam > > > On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: >> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am >> guessing to go through ofbiz once. >> >> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take >> some time to move up in ranking. >> as we continue to add content google will move it up. >> >> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is >> changing every few days. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >>> demo server >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Sam Hamilton"<[hidden email]> >>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>>> logged in. >>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>>> parse the >>>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>>> someone to >>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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I do a lot of google to find things.
what i find is that unless I am pretty close the hits do no show up in the first few pages. and I am amazed of the pages I don't find in google from the wiki. They get posted in the ML or I stumble on them by mistake. google SEO has changed over the years. the main key to getting ranking is page modification. or Adding content. to answer your question, if Docbooks can run on apache httpd, then it is a simple script to copy what is in the svn to website, like we use to do, and still do for DTD's (xsd). ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 9/2/2010 12:22 AM: > Hi Guys, > > I have been thinking about this indexing problem - do you think its possible to build something like http://help.eclipse.org/ but at http://ofbiz.apache.org/help/ or suitable location outside the demo sites - I still think that google is having too hard a time getting into the demos? I am right in assuming that the eclipse help site is built on DocBook? > > We could replicate DocBook files between the two locations so that both a locally installed OFBiz user and someone googling for some information have it at their finger tips? > > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "BJ Freeman"<[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 18:01 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Confluence Space Merge > > google gets past the SSL problem > I have the same situation with my demo, since I have not yet got my > certs put back in. > Just like if you go to a site that the browser warns you, as long as the > brower is not restarted you can bypass the warning and continue to see > the site as normal. > > ========================= > BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> > Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > > Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM: >> Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please >> send me links I could not find them? >> >> Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we >> have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. >> >> Sam >> >> >> On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: >>> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. >>> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET >>> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >>> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >>> >>> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET >>> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >>> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >>> >>> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET >>> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >>> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >>> >>> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am >>> guessing to go through ofbiz once. >>> >>> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take >>> some time to move up in ranking. >>> as we continue to add content google will move it up. >>> >>> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is >>> changing every few days. >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >>>> demo server >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Sam Hamilton"<[hidden email]> >>>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>>>> >>>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>>>> logged in. >>>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>>>> >>>>>> ========================= >>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>> >>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>>>> parse the >>>>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>>>> someone to >>>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > > > |
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