Creating product packs

[wp.rauchholz]

How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings) that includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings could be sold individually too.
The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the possibility on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
The pack is either defined or can be configured.
Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?

Thanks, Wolfgang

[Suraj Khurana]

Hi,

Yes, this is the case where 'Marketing Package' is used.

You can check demo data of OFBiz for reference. [1]

[1]:
https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=PIZZA

HTH.

--
Best Regards,
Suraj Khurana
Omnichannel OMS Technical Expert
HotWax Systems


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM, [hidden email] <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings) that
> includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings
> could be sold individually too.
> The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
> possibility on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
>
> Thanks, Wolfgang
>
>

[Pritam Kute]

Please see my comments inline.

Thanks and Regards
--
Pritam Kute


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings) that
> includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings
> could be sold individually too.
>

Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
marketing package here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products

The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the possibility
> on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
>

Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type product.
Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see what
is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they can
change some packs from the already built package?


> The pack is either defined or can be configured.
>

IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package concept
directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable product
setup.


> Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
>
> Thanks, Wolfgang
>
>

[Pritam Kute]

IMO, product PIZZA can give a good idea about configurable product setup
into the system. For marketing package, you can refer following products

GZ-BASKET [1]
GZ-BASKET-PICK [2]

[1] :
https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=GZ-BASKET
[2] :
https://demo-trunk-ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=GZ-BASKET-PICK

Thanks and Regards
--
Pritam Kute


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:01 PM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Please see my comments inline.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
>> With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings) that
>> includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings
>> could be sold individually too.
>>
>
> Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
> marketing package here
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
>
> The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
>> possibility on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
>>
>
> Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type product.
> Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see what
> is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they can
> change some packs from the already built package?
>
>
>> The pack is either defined or can be configured.
>>
>
> IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package concept
> directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable product
> setup.
>
>
>> Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
>>
>> Thanks, Wolfgang
>>
>>

[wp.rauchholz]

Thanks for responses.
To you question what do you mean by "open the pack and see what is inside".
On the e-Commerce page the Customer will pick the product pack that is
composed of 7 servings, from Monday to Sunday. The Customer wants to see
the individual servings inside the pack.
In other word, the Customer should be able to 'explode' the pack into its
individual products.


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Please see my comments inline.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> > With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings) that
> > includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings
> > could be sold individually too.
> >
>
> Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
> marketing package here
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
>
> The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the possibility
> > on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> >
>
> Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type product.
> Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see what
> is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they can
> change some packs from the already built package?
>
>
> > The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> >
>
> IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package concept
> directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable product
> setup.
>
>
> > Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
> >
> > Thanks, Wolfgang
> >
> >
>

--

Wolfgang Rauchholz

[Pritam Kute]

Whatever I can learn from the explanation you have provided, it is just a
UI layer you are talking about. Like you just need to show individual
servings to the customer under a particular product pack. There is no any
requirement of modifying/deleting of any servings.

If this is the case, then the marketing package can be exploded using the
associations created in "ProductAssoc" entity. I recommend you to go
through the demo data of GZ-BASKET. It will clear all your questions.

Thanks and Regards
--
Pritam Kute


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for responses.
> To you question what do you mean by "open the pack and see what is inside".
> On the e-Commerce page the Customer will pick the product pack that is
> composed of 7 servings, from Monday to Sunday. The Customer wants to see
> the individual servings inside the pack.
> In other word, the Customer should be able to 'explode' the pack into its
> individual products.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Please see my comments inline.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > --
> > Pritam Kute
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> > > With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings)
> that
> > > includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these servings
> > > could be sold individually too.
> > >
> >
> > Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
> > marketing package here
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
> >
> > The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
> possibility
> > > on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> > >
> >
> > Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type product.
> > Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see what
> > is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they can
> > change some packs from the already built package?
> >
> >
> > > The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> > >
> >
> > IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package concept
> > directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable
> product
> > setup.
> >
> >
> > > Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Wolfgang
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Wolfgang Rauchholz
>

[wp.rauchholz]

I don’t know what I am missing. This is my setup.

Part number for the pack / basket:
PACK7: defined as Marketing Package: Auto Manufactured (I tried also the
Assembly type)

Part number products
1000, 1001 and 1002 defined as Finished Good

In Tab ASSOCIATION of PACK7 I tried all possible scenarios:

Swapping Product ID and Product IT to. Trying several different association
types.

On e-Commerce page, when clicking PACK7 and ofbiz drills down to the
product detail page, I do not see the products 100, 1001, 1002 (the
contentt of the pack).



What am I doing wrong?



On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:30 PM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Whatever I can learn from the explanation you have provided, it is just a
> UI layer you are talking about. Like you just need to show individual
> servings to the customer under a particular product pack. There is no any
> requirement of modifying/deleting of any servings.
>
> If this is the case, then the marketing package can be exploded using the
> associations created in "ProductAssoc" entity. I recommend you to go
> through the demo data of GZ-BASKET. It will clear all your questions.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for responses.
> > To you question what do you mean by "open the pack and see what is
> inside".
> > On the e-Commerce page the Customer will pick the product pack that is
> > composed of 7 servings, from Monday to Sunday. The Customer wants to see
> > the individual servings inside the pack.
> > In other word, the Customer should be able to 'explode' the pack into its
> > individual products.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Pritam Kute <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Please see my comments inline.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > > --
> > > Pritam Kute
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> > > > With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food servings)
> > that
> > > > includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these
> servings
> > > > could be sold individually too.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
> > > marketing package here
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
> > >
> > > The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
> > possibility
> > > > on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type
> product.
> > > Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see
> what
> > > is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they
> can
> > > change some packs from the already built package?
> > >
> > >
> > > > The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> > > >
> > >
> > > IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package concept
> > > directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable
> > product
> > > setup.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Wolfgang
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Wolfgang Rauchholz
> >
>

--

Wolfgang Rauchholz

[Pritam Kute]

Hi,

As I said in my previous email, it is just a UI layer problem. There is no
out of the box UI available on e-commerce for displaying the components of
the kit product. You need a little bit of customization in the code for
displaying those components on the product details page.

Thanks and Regards
--
Pritam Kute


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:48 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I don’t know what I am missing. This is my setup.
>
> Part number for the pack / basket:
> PACK7: defined as Marketing Package: Auto Manufactured (I tried also the
> Assembly type)
>
> Part number products
> 1000, 1001 and 1002 defined as Finished Good
>
> In Tab ASSOCIATION of PACK7 I tried all possible scenarios:
>
> Swapping Product ID and Product IT to. Trying several different association
> types.
>
> On e-Commerce page, when clicking PACK7 and ofbiz drills down to the
> product detail page, I do not see the products 100, 1001, 1002 (the
> contentt of the pack).
>
>
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:30 PM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Whatever I can learn from the explanation you have provided, it is just a
> > UI layer you are talking about. Like you just need to show individual
> > servings to the customer under a particular product pack. There is no any
> > requirement of modifying/deleting of any servings.
> >
> > If this is the case, then the marketing package can be exploded using the
> > associations created in "ProductAssoc" entity. I recommend you to go
> > through the demo data of GZ-BASKET. It will clear all your questions.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > --
> > Pritam Kute
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for responses.
> > > To you question what do you mean by "open the pack and see what is
> > inside".
> > > On the e-Commerce page the Customer will pick the product pack that is
> > > composed of 7 servings, from Monday to Sunday. The Customer wants to
> see
> > > the individual servings inside the pack.
> > > In other word, the Customer should be able to 'explode' the pack into
> its
> > > individual products.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Pritam Kute <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please see my comments inline.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > --
> > > > Pritam Kute
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> > > > > With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food
> servings)
> > > that
> > > > > includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these
> > servings
> > > > > could be sold individually too.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination of
> > > > marketing package here
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
> > > >
> > > > The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
> > > possibility
> > > > > on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type
> > product.
> > > > Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and see
> > what
> > > > is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or they
> > can
> > > > change some packs from the already built package?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package
> concept
> > > > directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable
> > > product
> > > > setup.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Wolfgang
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Wolfgang Rauchholz
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Wolfgang Rauchholz
>

[wp.rauchholz]

That explains it.... Thank you.

Wolfgang

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM Pritam Kute <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As I said in my previous email, it is just a UI layer problem. There is no
> out of the box UI available on e-commerce for displaying the components of
> the kit product. You need a little bit of customization in the code for
> displaying those components on the product details page.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:48 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I don’t know what I am missing. This is my setup.
> >
> > Part number for the pack / basket:
> > PACK7: defined as Marketing Package: Auto Manufactured (I tried also the
> > Assembly type)
> >
> > Part number products
> > 1000, 1001 and 1002 defined as Finished Good
> >
> > In Tab ASSOCIATION of PACK7 I tried all possible scenarios:
> >
> > Swapping Product ID and Product IT to. Trying several different
> association
> > types.
> >
> > On e-Commerce page, when clicking PACK7 and ofbiz drills down to the
> > product detail page, I do not see the products 100, 1001, 1002 (the
> > contentt of the pack).
> >
> >
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:30 PM Pritam Kute <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Whatever I can learn from the explanation you have provided, it is
> just a
> > > UI layer you are talking about. Like you just need to show individual
> > > servings to the customer under a particular product pack. There is no
> any
> > > requirement of modifying/deleting of any servings.
> > >
> > > If this is the case, then the marketing package can be exploded using
> the
> > > associations created in "ProductAssoc" entity. I recommend you to go
> > > through the demo data of GZ-BASKET. It will clear all your questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > > --
> > > Pritam Kute
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:17 PM Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for responses.
> > > > To you question what do you mean by "open the pack and see what is
> > > inside".
> > > > On the e-Commerce page the Customer will pick the product pack that
> is
> > > > composed of 7 servings, from Monday to Sunday. The Customer wants to
> > see
> > > > the individual servings inside the pack.
> > > > In other word, the Customer should be able to 'explode' the pack into
> > its
> > > > individual products.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Pritam Kute <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please see my comments inline.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pritam Kute
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:19 PM [hidden email] <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How to best setup a pack in ofbiz?
> > > > > > With pack I mean a product (e.g. a pack for 7 days of food
> > servings)
> > > > that
> > > > > > includes in this example 7 individual servings. Each of these
> > > servings
> > > > > > could be sold individually too.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. This is a best case for Marketing Package. See the defination
> of
> > > > > marketing package here
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBENDUSER/Products
> > > > >
> > > > > The price is set for the pack, but the Customer should have the
> > > > possibility
> > > > > > on e-Commerce to open the pack and see what is inside.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Price can be set for the complete set in marketing package type
> > > product.
> > > > > Can you please ellaborate more about the line "open the pack and
> see
> > > what
> > > > > is inside". Like do they just need to see the package content or
> they
> > > can
> > > > > change some packs from the already built package?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The pack is either defined or can be configured.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IMO, defined pakages can be created by using marketing package
> > concept
> > > > > directly but for configured package, you should go for configurable
> > > > product
> > > > > setup.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is this a case where 'Marketing Package' is used?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Wolfgang
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Wolfgang Rauchholz
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Wolfgang Rauchholz
> >
>

--

Wolfgang Rauchholz