Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps
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I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps.
I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application built on OfBiz. I would like to know more differences between them if any. I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. Thanks in advance. |
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It sounds like your impression is based on the dishonest opentaps marketing that got Si Chen invited to leave the OFBiz PMC. For more comments on that: http://osofbiz.blogspot.com/2007/06/thoughts-on-ofbiz-derivative-works-pmc.html Please understand that OFBiz does include complete and ready to use applications, and also applications made of artifacts meant to be reused in your own custom applications. It is not just a framework as opentaps and Open Source Strategies would have you believe. On an interesting side note, it seems that a number opentaps users (including a few I have worked with directly) are currently moving away from opentaps and back to plain Apache OFBiz. The main reason is that opentaps is currently based on a release branch of OFBiz that is over 2 years old, and in those 2 years the OFBiz community has far outpaced the few full-time employees that work on opentaps (that is more of a commercially driven open source project, and not community driven like OFBiz). On the other hand, chances are opentaps will update to the newer release09.04 branch and then offer many of the features that people are leaving opentaps to get from OFBiz itself. I don't know that for sure, but Si Chen did ask a question a while back about the release branch and to me this seems like a logical move for them. That said, if you have no intention of participating in the community driving the software you use, then opentaps may be a good option for you instead of working directly with Apache OFBiz. Also, bewares the ides of March! And by that I mean the HPL license that opentaps uses... ;) -David On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:16 AM, su2 wrote: > > I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps. > > I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application > built on > OfBiz. > > I would like to know more differences between them if any. > > I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Difference-between-OfBiz-and-Opentaps-tp24223155p24223155.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group is going. Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and hibernate, and a few others that are less well known, but also very high quality. So, while understanding the ofbiz framework will certainly continue to be important, there are also a lot of other technologies here now in opentaps. su2 sent the following on 6/26/2009 9:16 AM: > I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps. > > I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application built on > OfBiz. > > I would like to know more differences between them if any. > > I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. > > Thanks in advance. -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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Hi BJ, Your link.. What it says? All in "Zhong Wen Hua Yu", I do not understand ..?? - Charles TJ ========= -----Original Message----- From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps based on https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group is going. Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and hibernate, and a few others that are less well known, but also very high quality. So, while understanding the ofbiz framework will certainly continue to be important, there are also a lot of other technologies here now in opentaps. su2 sent the following on 6/26/2009 9:16 AM: > I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps. > > I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application built on > OfBiz. > > I would like to know more differences between them if any. > > I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. > > Thanks in advance. |
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Hi BJ,
Sorry but I am not able read the language on the suggested link page. Thanks.
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that is why I included the text of the message with time and date so you
can find the post. unfortunately it is a not in english except of si's comments. SELC Sales Div sent the following on 6/26/2009 10:18 AM: > Hi BJ, > > Your link.. > What it says? All in "Zhong Wen Hua Yu", I do not understand ..?? > > - Charles TJ > > > ========= > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps > > > based on > https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 > By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 > me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group > is going. > > Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the > ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and hibernate, > and a few others that are less well known, but also very high quality. > So, while understanding the ofbiz framework will certainly continue to > be important, there are also a lot of other technologies here now in > opentaps. > > > su2 sent the following on 6/26/2009 9:16 AM: >> I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps. >> >> I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application built > on >> OfBiz. >> >> I would like to know more differences between them if any. >> >> I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. >> >> Thanks in advance. > > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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Hi,
. In this context, I have a question. Are not the services provided by spring and hibernate (eg transaction handling, JDBC abstraction /ORM ) already available in ofBiz? What value add might spring and/or hibernate bring to OfBiz? regards Sastry >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps >> >> >> based on >> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 >> By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 >> me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group >> is going. >> >> Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the >> ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and hibernate, |
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once you delve into ofbiz framework I think the answer will be apparent.
sastry mln sent the following on 6/26/2009 3:57 PM: > Hi, > . > In this context, I have a question. > Are not the services provided by spring and hibernate (eg transaction > handling, JDBC abstraction /ORM ) already available in ofBiz? > What value add might spring and/or hibernate bring to OfBiz? > > > regards > Sastry > > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] >>> Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps >>> >>> >>> based on >>> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 >>> By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 >>> me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group >>> is going. >>> >>> Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the >>> ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and hibernate, > > > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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Yes that's an interesting point. They started introducing additional tools a while back, which means you have to learn and understand more tools in order to work with it effectively. -David On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:58 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: > based on > https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 > By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 > me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group > is going. > > Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the > ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and > hibernate, > and a few others that are less well known, but also very high quality. > So, while understanding the ofbiz framework will certainly continue to > be important, there are also a lot of other technologies here now in > opentaps. > > > su2 sent the following on 6/26/2009 9:16 AM: >> I might sound stupid but I am new to OfBiz and Opentaps. >> >> I understand is OfBiz is a platform and Opentaps is an application >> built on >> OfBiz. >> >> I would like to know more differences between them if any. >> >> I am still confuse between Ofbiz and opentaps. >> >> Thanks in advance. > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > |
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Yes, they are well supported in OFBiz. The quick answer is that Hibernate has nothing to offer OFBiz as it operates under a very different approach (ie object-relational mapping as opposed to facilitating use of the relational data model). As for Spring: it is a tool useful for low-level Java coding and simply doesn't help with most of what developers do with the OFBiz framework. On the other hand, I know people have used it with OFBiz when they had previously written code that they wanted to incorporate into OFBiz-based apps. -David On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:57 PM, sastry mln wrote: > Hi, > . > In this context, I have a question. > Are not the services provided by spring and hibernate (eg > transaction handling, JDBC abstraction /ORM ) already available in > ofBiz? > What value add might spring and/or hibernate bring to OfBiz? > > > regards > Sastry > > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] >>> Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps >>> >>> >>> based on >>> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 >>> By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 >>> me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your >>> group >>> is going. >>> >>> Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of >>> the >>> ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and >>> hibernate, > |
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Thanks Dave, Thanks Freeman for your responses.
As Freeman mentioned, it will be clear to me once I get into it. But I started working on ofbiz very recently . So It will take some time for me. Anyway, now I have better understanding of the comparison . Thanks once again. -Sastry -------------------------------------------------- From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:11 AM To: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps > > Yes, they are well supported in OFBiz. The quick answer is that Hibernate > has nothing to offer OFBiz as it operates under a very different approach > (ie object-relational mapping as opposed to facilitating use of the > relational data model). > > As for Spring: it is a tool useful for low-level Java coding and simply > doesn't help with most of what developers do with the OFBiz framework. On > the other hand, I know people have used it with OFBiz when they had > previously written code that they wanted to incorporate into OFBiz-based > apps. > > -David > > > On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:57 PM, sastry mln wrote: > >> Hi, >> . >> In this context, I have a question. >> Are not the services provided by spring and hibernate (eg transaction >> handling, JDBC abstraction /ORM ) already available in ofBiz? >> What value add might spring and/or hibernate bring to OfBiz? >> >> >> regards >> Sastry >> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]] >>>> Sent: 26 Juni 2009 23:58 >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> Subject: Re: Difference between OfBiz and Opentaps >>>> >>>> >>>> based on >>>> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=882884 >>>> By: Si Chen (sichenProject Admin) - 2009-01-09 13:13 >>>> me too: please post here once in awhile and let me know how your group >>>> is going. >>>> >>>> Now word about ofbiz and opentaps: we will be deprecating more of the >>>> ofbiz things in favor of open source projects like Spring and >>>> hibernate, >> > > |
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