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Saudações,
I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the stores, pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so we'll not resale anything. TIA, Leonardo Ruoso |
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this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company Code can be written that allows this. it is not 100% OOTB though. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: > Saudações, > > I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet > mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory > stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the > eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the stores, > pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so > we'll not resale anything. > > TIA, > Leonardo Ruoso > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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The short answer is yes. A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of the functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify that statement I should say that the statement above is almost always true and actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be required, or in another way of looking at it: some development/ customization will be easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, manual processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the case). -David On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > Saudações, > > I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic > outlet > mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory > stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store > and the > eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > stores, > pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on > COMMISSIONS, so > we'll not resale anything. > > TIA, > Leonardo Ruoso |
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I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. The outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce website to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > this has been answered before so let me take different approach. > The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company > Code can be written that allows this. > it is not 100% OOTB though. > > > > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: > > Saudações, > > > > I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet > > mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory > > stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the > > eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > stores, > > pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so > > we'll not resale anything. > > > > TIA, > > Leonardo Ruoso > > > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > > |
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to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for
the shipping department would take some customization. it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way I envision it. there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go further. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: > I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent > companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. The > outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce website > to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >> Code can be written that allows this. >> it is not 100% OOTB though. >> >> >> >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>> Saudações, >>> >>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet >>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the >>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >> stores, >>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so >>> we'll not resale anything. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Leonardo Ruoso >>> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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http://www.modaematacado.com.br is a good reference in portuguese. Our
developers have good Java knowledge, but no previous experience with Ofbiz. We are thinking that Ofbiz is the best Open Source e-commerce Solution to adopt for this project, because we'll need a lot of workflow control. The project is for a new startup company Leonardo Ruoso 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > The short answer is yes. > > A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of the > functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify that > statement I should say that the statement above is almost always true and > actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... > > I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be required, > or in another way of looking at it: some development/customization will be > easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, manual > processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the case). > > -David > > > > On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > > Saudações, >> >> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet >> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the >> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the stores, >> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so >> we'll not resale anything. >> >> TIA, >> Leonardo Ruoso >> > > |
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come to think of it customization of the company level and running
multiple Accounting would allow for a single instance. the would require a rewrite of most accounting or order manager to allow different delegators based on Website ID or Product store. BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:52 PM: > to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for > the shipping department would take some customization. > it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way > I envision it. > there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go > further. > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. The >> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce website >> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >> >> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >> >>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >>> Code can be written that allows this. >>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>> Saudações, >>>> >>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet >>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the >>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>> stores, >>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so >>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>> >>> -- >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>> Systems Integrator. >>> >>> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any system
integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done manually. Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several products from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale direct to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for > the shipping department would take some customization. > it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way > I envision it. > there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go > further. > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: > > I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent > > companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. > The > > outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce > website > > to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > > > >> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. > >> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company > >> Code can be written that allows this. > >> it is not 100% OOTB though. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: > >>> Saudações, > >>> > >>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic > outlet > >>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory > >>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and > the > >>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > >> stores, > >>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, > so > >>> we'll not resale anything. > >>> > >>> TIA, > >>> Leonardo Ruoso > >>> > >> -- > >> BJ Freeman > >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >> Systems Integrator. > >> > >> > > > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > > |
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Java knowledge I have found is less than 35%(subjective view) of what is
required for ofbiz. You have a mini-lan to grasp plus a head jerk from object to entity data storage. Also he way ofbiz displays data is totally different from using database driven systems. But it is doable. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:59 PM: > http://www.modaematacado.com.br is a good reference in portuguese. Our > developers have good Java knowledge, but no previous experience with Ofbiz. > We are thinking that Ofbiz is the best Open Source e-commerce Solution to > adopt for this project, because we'll need a lot of workflow control. > > The project is for a new startup company > > Leonardo Ruoso > > 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > >> The short answer is yes. >> >> A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of the >> functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify that >> statement I should say that the statement above is almost always true and >> actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... >> >> I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be required, >> or in another way of looking at it: some development/customization will be >> easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, manual >> processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the case). >> >> -David >> >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: >> >> Saudações, >>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic outlet >>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and the >>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the stores, >>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, so >>> we'll not resale anything. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Leonardo Ruoso >>> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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I was dreaming about it. I'm sure it could be easier if we get some paid
support and development: Is there a recommended way to get this paid services -- yet strengthening the ofbiz community? 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > Java knowledge I have found is less than 35%(subjective view) of what is > required for ofbiz. > You have a mini-lan to grasp plus a head jerk from object to entity data > storage. Also he way ofbiz displays data is totally different from using > database driven systems. > But it is doable. > > > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:59 PM: > > http://www.modaematacado.com.br is a good reference in portuguese. Our > > developers have good Java knowledge, but no previous experience with > Ofbiz. > > We are thinking that Ofbiz is the best Open Source e-commerce Solution to > > adopt for this project, because we'll need a lot of workflow control. > > > > The project is for a new startup company > > > > Leonardo Ruoso > > > > 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > > >> The short answer is yes. > >> > >> A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of the > >> functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify that > >> statement I should say that the statement above is almost always true > and > >> actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... > >> > >> I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be > required, > >> or in another way of looking at it: some development/customization will > be > >> easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, manual > >> processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the case). > >> > >> -David > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > >> > >> Saudações, > >>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic > outlet > >>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory > >>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and > the > >>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > stores, > >>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, > so > >>> we'll not resale anything. > >>> > >>> TIA, > >>> Leonardo Ruoso > >>> > >> > > > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > > |
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any thing related to money is accounting. Now you many not need all of
the accounting but you need enough to do customizaion. as long as you have seperate sites within ofbiz and you use say apache to give the mall effect, then nothing has to be done to order manager. if you decide to go with ofbiz I suggest you contact one of those listed and let them walk you through this. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM: > I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any system > integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done manually. > > > Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several products > from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer > order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale direct > to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for >> the shipping department would take some customization. >> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way >> I envision it. >> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go >> further. >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. >> The >>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >> website >>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>> Saudações, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >> outlet >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and >> the >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>> stores, >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, >> so >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> >>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>> >>>> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
accounting will work Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM: > I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any system > integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done manually. > > > Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several products > from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer > order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale direct > to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for >> the shipping department would take some customization. >> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way >> I envision it. >> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go >> further. >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. >> The >>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >> website >>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>> Saudações, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >> outlet >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and >> the >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>> stores, >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, >> so >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> >>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>> >>>> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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probably get training so you people are up to speed fast and occasional
support on how to accomplish something. you welcome to contribute back what ever you want. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:18 PM: > I was dreaming about it. I'm sure it could be easier if we get some paid > support and development: Is there a recommended way to get this paid > services -- yet strengthening the ofbiz community? > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> Java knowledge I have found is less than 35%(subjective view) of what is >> required for ofbiz. >> You have a mini-lan to grasp plus a head jerk from object to entity data >> storage. Also he way ofbiz displays data is totally different from using >> database driven systems. >> But it is doable. >> >> >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:59 PM: >>> http://www.modaematacado.com.br is a good reference in portuguese. Our >>> developers have good Java knowledge, but no previous experience with >> Ofbiz. >>> We are thinking that Ofbiz is the best Open Source e-commerce Solution to >>> adopt for this project, because we'll need a lot of workflow control. >>> >>> The project is for a new startup company >>> >>> Leonardo Ruoso >>> >>> 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> The short answer is yes. >>>> >>>> A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of the >>>> functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify that >>>> statement I should say that the statement above is almost always true >> and >>>> actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... >>>> >>>> I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be >> required, >>>> or in another way of looking at it: some development/customization will >> be >>>> easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, manual >>>> processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the case). >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: >>>> >>>> Saudações, >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >> outlet >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and >> the >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >> stores, >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, >> so >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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There are quite a few individuals and organizations that offer services for Apache OFBiz, there is a list of available on a wiki page here: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Service+Providers It is a very good idea to make sure that your service provider agrees to contribute back as much as possible to the project. If they were by all was first looking at and what can be changed and added in the project and then what needs to be built based on that there is usually very little overhead involved in contributing back. On the other hand, if they first build things totally separately and then try to re- factor or rewrite them in order to contribute them back to the project there is a lot of overhead and it often does not work out. -David On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > I was dreaming about it. I'm sure it could be easier if we get some > paid > support and development: Is there a recommended way to get this paid > services -- yet strengthening the ofbiz community? > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> Java knowledge I have found is less than 35%(subjective view) of >> what is >> required for ofbiz. >> You have a mini-lan to grasp plus a head jerk from object to entity >> data >> storage. Also he way ofbiz displays data is totally different from >> using >> database driven systems. >> But it is doable. >> >> >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:59 PM: >>> http://www.modaematacado.com.br is a good reference in portuguese. >>> Our >>> developers have good Java knowledge, but no previous experience with >> Ofbiz. >>> We are thinking that Ofbiz is the best Open Source e-commerce >>> Solution to >>> adopt for this project, because we'll need a lot of workflow >>> control. >>> >>> The project is for a new startup company >>> >>> Leonardo Ruoso >>> >>> 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> The short answer is yes. >>>> >>>> A slightly longer answer is: there is a 90% chance that 60-90% of >>>> the >>>> functionality you need/want will exist OOTB in OFBiz. To qualify >>>> that >>>> statement I should say that the statement above is almost always >>>> true >> and >>>> actually it's hard to say more without a lot more detail... >>>> >>>> I can say based on what you wrote that some development will be >> required, >>>> or in another way of looking at it: some development/ >>>> customization will >> be >>>> easier and cheaper than trying to work around it in deployment, >>>> manual >>>> processes, or external systems (again though, this is often the >>>> case). >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: >>>> >>>> Saudações, >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >> outlet >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent >>>>> factory >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each >>>>> store and >> the >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >> stores, >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on >>>>> COMMISSIONS, >> so >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> |
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This sort of detail is very helpful. You are basically describing the business process for the mall site and that is the most clear and actionable way to communicate requirements. Even based on just this it sounds like OFBiz will do most of what you need. You can have products and inventory that are "drop shipped" and the basic process for this is that when these items are ordered OFBiz can automatically create purchase orders to suppliers with the shipping address set to the customers shipping address. Chances are you will still want some sort of variation on this, but it sounds like this combined with various other features of the software will get you most of the way there. -David On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have > any system > integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done > manually. > > > Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several > products > from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the > customer > order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale > direct > to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single >> interface for >> the shipping department would take some customization. >> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the >> way >> I envision it. >> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to >> go >> further. >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet >>> mall. >> The >>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >> website >>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the >>>> Company >>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>> Saudações, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >> outlet >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent >>>>> factory >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each >>>>> store and >> the >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>> stores, >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on >>>>> COMMISSIONS, >> so >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> >>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> |
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Sounds better now!
An example of what I suppose to need development is to support the individual set of rules defined by each factory. Every factory (and supplier and brand are the same here) has it's own set of rules to accept purchase orders, like minimum total, or to apply for discounts. So the customer order will need to obey to supplier rules. This rules could be set at the supplier or the brand entities... Leonardo 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > This sort of detail is very helpful. You are basically describing the > business process for the mall site and that is the most clear and actionable > way to communicate requirements. > > Even based on just this it sounds like OFBiz will do most of what you need. > You can have products and inventory that are "drop shipped" and the basic > process for this is that when these items are ordered OFBiz can > automatically create purchase orders to suppliers with the shipping address > set to the customers shipping address. > > Chances are you will still want some sort of variation on this, but it > sounds like this combined with various other features of the software will > get you most of the way there. > > -David > > > > On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > > I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any >> system >> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done >> manually. >> >> >> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several >> products >> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer >> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale direct >> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. >> >> >> >> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >> >> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for >>> the shipping department would take some customization. >>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way >>> I envision it. >>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go >>> further. >>> >>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>> >>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall. >>>> >>> The >>> >>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >>>> >>> website >>> >>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>>> >>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >>>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>> >>>>>> Saudações, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >>>>>> >>>>> outlet >>> >>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory >>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and >>>>>> >>>>> the >>> >>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>>>> >>>>> stores, >>>>> >>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS, >>>>>> >>>>> so >>> >>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>> >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> >>> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>> Systems Integrator. >>> >>> >>> > |
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Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website
also. 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current > accounting will work > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM: > > I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any > system > > integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done > manually. > > > > > > Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several > products > > from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer > > order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale > direct > > to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. > > > > > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > > > >> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for > >> the shipping department would take some customization. > >> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way > >> I envision it. > >> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go > >> further. > >> > >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: > >>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent > >>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet > mall. > >> The > >>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce > >> website > >>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. > >>> > >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >>> > >>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. > >>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company > >>>> Code can be written that allows this. > >>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: > >>>>> Saudações, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic > >> outlet > >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent > factory > >>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and > >> the > >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > >>>> stores, > >>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on > COMMISSIONS, > >> so > >>>>> we'll not resale anything. > >>>>> > >>>>> TIA, > >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> BJ Freeman > >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >>>> > >>>> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >>>> Systems Integrator. > >>>> > >>>> > >> -- > >> BJ Freeman > >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >> Systems Integrator. > >> > >> > > > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > > |
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There could be quite a bit that you'll need to do, or hardy anything... To help you get started on this I recommend that you "get your story straight", and by that I mean write some stories about the business process you intend to support. You can get a head start on this by basing your stories on the UBPL stories, like the Online Retail Company one here: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Story+of+Online+Retail+Company For information about how to effectively write and maintain and then use these stories, I recommend the HEMP books that I've been working on: http://www.dejc.com/home/HEMP.html -David On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: > Sounds better now! > > An example of what I suppose to need development is to support the > individual set of rules defined by each factory. Every factory (and > supplier > and brand are the same here) has it's own set of rules to accept > purchase > orders, like minimum total, or to apply for discounts. So the > customer order > will need to obey to supplier rules. This rules could be set at the > supplier > or the brand entities... > > Leonardo > > 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > >> >> This sort of detail is very helpful. You are basically describing the >> business process for the mall site and that is the most clear and >> actionable >> way to communicate requirements. >> >> Even based on just this it sounds like OFBiz will do most of what >> you need. >> You can have products and inventory that are "drop shipped" and the >> basic >> process for this is that when these items are ordered OFBiz can >> automatically create purchase orders to suppliers with the shipping >> address >> set to the customers shipping address. >> >> Chances are you will still want some sort of variation on this, but >> it >> sounds like this combined with various other features of the >> software will >> get you most of the way there. >> >> -David >> >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: >> >> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any >>> system >>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done >>> manually. >>> >>> >>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several >>> products >>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the >>> customer >>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will >>> sale direct >>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>> >>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single >>> interface for >>>> the shipping department would take some customization. >>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, >>>> the way >>>> I envision it. >>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements >>>> to go >>>> further. >>>> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are >>>>> independent >>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc >>>>> outlet mall. >>>>> >>>> The >>>> >>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >>>>> >>>> website >>>> >>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>>>> >>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the >>>>>> Company >>>>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Saudações, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an >>>>>>> eletronic >>>>>>> >>>>>> outlet >>>> >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent >>>>> factory >>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each >>>>>>> store and >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>> >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>>>>> >>>>>> stores, >>>>>> >>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on >>>>>>> COMMISSIONS, >>>>>>> >>>>>> so >>>> >>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> >>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> |
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there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
that usually is one website that has a website per store. so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog. All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included. Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than people envisions. Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM: > Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website > also. > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current >> accounting will work >> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM: >>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any >> system >>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done >> manually. >>> >>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several >> products >>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer >>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale >> direct >>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for >>>> the shipping department would take some customization. >>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way >>>> I envision it. >>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go >>>> further. >>>> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: >>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent >>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet >> mall. >>>> The >>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce >>>> website >>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. >>>>> >>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. >>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company >>>>>> Code can be written that allows this. >>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: >>>>>>> Saudações, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic >>>> outlet >>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent >> factory >>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and >>>> the >>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the >>>>>> stores, >>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on >> COMMISSIONS, >>>> so >>>>>>> we'll not resale anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> >>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>> Systems Integrator. >>>> >>>> >> -- >> BJ Freeman >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >> Systems Integrator. >> >> > -- BJ Freeman http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation http://bjfreeman.elance.com http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro Systems Integrator. |
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Dear BJ,
2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > there probably need some clarification you said a mall. > that usually is one website that has a website per store. I agree with you but it`s not the case here. Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores. Customer does checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store, group then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will then debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the difference to the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the WEBSITE will not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation. The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already holds a BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's own commercial rules. It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales products from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory. Revenue comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the money, he will send the factory the money already without the commission. Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy products from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase order and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all together to the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$ 100,00 - 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE bills the factory store a sales commission. so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store > would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog. > All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one > product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included. > Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than > people envisions. > > > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM: > > Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website > > also. > > > > 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > > > >> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current > >> accounting will work > >> > >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM: > >>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any > >> system > >>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done > >> manually. > >>> > >>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several > >> products > >>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the > customer > >>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale > >> direct > >>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >>> > >>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface > for > >>>> the shipping department would take some customization. > >>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the > way > >>>> I envision it. > >>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go > >>>> further. > >>>> > >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM: > >>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent > >>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet > >> mall. > >>>> The > >>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce > >>>> website > >>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall. > >>>>> > >>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> > >>>>> > >>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach. > >>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company > >>>>>> Code can be written that allows this. > >>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM: > >>>>>>> Saudações, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic > >>>> outlet > >>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent > >> factory > >>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store > and > >>>> the > >>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the > >>>>>> stores, > >>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on > >> COMMISSIONS, > >>>> so > >>>>>>> we'll not resale anything. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> TIA, > >>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> BJ Freeman > >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >>>>>> Systems Integrator. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> BJ Freeman > >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >>>> > >>>> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >>>> Systems Integrator. > >>>> > >>>> > >> -- > >> BJ Freeman > >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >> > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > >> Systems Integrator. > >> > >> > > > > -- > BJ Freeman > http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro > Systems Integrator. > > |
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