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BJ Freeman
You have introduced a new variable Factories
how does that relate to the mall.

Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:34 AM:

> Sounds better now!
>
> An example of what I suppose to need development is to support the
> individual set of rules defined by each factory. Every factory (and supplier
> and brand are the same here) has it's own set of rules to accept purchase
> orders, like minimum total, or to apply for discounts. So the customer order
> will need to obey to supplier rules. This rules could be set at the supplier
> or the brand entities...
>
> Leonardo
>
> 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]>
>
>> This sort of detail is very helpful. You are basically describing the
>> business process for the mall site and that is the most clear and actionable
>> way to communicate requirements.
>>
>> Even based on just this it sounds like OFBiz will do most of what you need.
>> You can have products and inventory that are "drop shipped" and the basic
>> process for this is that when these items are ordered OFBiz can
>> automatically create purchase orders to suppliers with the shipping address
>> set to the customers shipping address.
>>
>> Chances are you will still want some sort of variation on this, but it
>> sounds like this combined with various other features of the software will
>> get you most of the way there.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote:
>>
>>  I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any
>>> system
>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
>>> manually.
>>>
>>>
>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
>>> products
>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the customer
>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale direct
>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>  to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface for
>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the way
>>>> I envision it.
>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go
>>>> further.
>>>>
>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet mall.
>>>>>
>>>> The
>>>>
>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
>>>>>
>>>> website
>>>>
>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>  this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company
>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saudações,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> outlet
>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent factory
>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the
>>>>>> stores,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on COMMISSIONS,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>
>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>

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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

Leonardo Ruoso-2
May be my last message already clarifies it, so please let me know.

2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>

> You have introduced a new variable Factories
> how does that relate to the mall.
>
> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:34 AM:
> > Sounds better now!
> >
> > An example of what I suppose to need development is to support the
> > individual set of rules defined by each factory. Every factory (and
> supplier
> > and brand are the same here) has it's own set of rules to accept purchase
> > orders, like minimum total, or to apply for discounts. So the customer
> order
> > will need to obey to supplier rules. This rules could be set at the
> supplier
> > or the brand entities...
> >
> > Leonardo
> >
> > 2009/7/16 David E Jones <[hidden email]>
> >
> >> This sort of detail is very helpful. You are basically describing the
> >> business process for the mall site and that is the most clear and
> actionable
> >> way to communicate requirements.
> >>
> >> Even based on just this it sounds like OFBiz will do most of what you
> need.
> >> You can have products and inventory that are "drop shipped" and the
> basic
> >> process for this is that when these items are ordered OFBiz can
> >> automatically create purchase orders to suppliers with the shipping
> address
> >> set to the customers shipping address.
> >>
> >> Chances are you will still want some sort of variation on this, but it
> >> sounds like this combined with various other features of the software
> will
> >> get you most of the way there.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Leonardo Ruoso wrote:
> >>
> >>  I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any
> >>> system
> >>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
> >>> manually.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
> >>> products
> >>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
> customer
> >>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
> direct
> >>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>
> >>>  to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface
> for
> >>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
> >>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
> way
> >>>> I envision it.
> >>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go
> >>>> further.
> >>>>
> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
> >>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
> mall.
> >>>>>
> >>>> The
> >>>>
> >>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
> >>>>>
> >>>> website
> >>>>
> >>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
> >>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company
> >>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
> >>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Saudações,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> outlet
> >>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
> factory
> >>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store
> and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the
> >>>>>> stores,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
> COMMISSIONS,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> so
> >>>>> we'll not resale anything.
> >>>>>>> TIA,
> >>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  --
> >>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>
> >>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
> --
> BJ Freeman
> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> Systems Integrator.
>
>
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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

Leonardo Ruoso-2
And I do accept better names suggestions. :-)

2009/7/17 Leonardo Ruoso <[hidden email]>

> May be my last message already clarifies it, so please let me know.
>
> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>
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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

BJ Freeman
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there is the rub.
to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
different website, internal to ofbiz.
now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
each store would be
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
everything else is doable as you laid out.
Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website and
they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store has
its own look & feel.

Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:

> Dear BJ,
>
> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>
>> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
>> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
>
> I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
>
> Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores. Customer does
> checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase
> orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store, group
> then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will then
> debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the difference to
> the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the WEBSITE will
> not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
>
> The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already holds a
> BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's own
> commercial rules.
>
> It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales products
> from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory. Revenue
> comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the money,
> he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
>
> Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from
> several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy products
> from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase order
> and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all together to
> the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$ 100,00 -
> 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE bills
> the factory store a sales commission.
>
>
>
> so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
>> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz
>
> Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
>> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
>> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
>> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
>> people envisions.
>>
>>
>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
>>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website
>>> also.
>>>
>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
>>>> accounting will work
>>>>
>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
>>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any
>>>> system
>>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
>>>> manually.
>>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
>>>> products
>>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
>> customer
>>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
>>>> direct
>>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface
>> for
>>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
>>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
>> way
>>>>>> I envision it.
>>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go
>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
>>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
>>>> mall.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
>>>>>> website
>>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
>>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company
>>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
>>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
>>>>>>>>> Saudações,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic
>>>>>> outlet
>>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store
>> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the
>>>>>>>> stores,
>>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
>>>> COMMISSIONS,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>> Systems Integrator.
>>
>>
>

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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

BJ Freeman
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I should add that everyone would come to
http://www.mallwebsite.br/ where you could have links to go to
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
the http://www.mallwebsite.br/
you would have the main site where you would have promos and highlights
for each store(factory)
This would be an extra feature that the factories can use to draw customers.
Each site
http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
can have their own promos as well.



BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:49 AM:

> there is the rub.
> to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
> different website, internal to ofbiz.
> now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
> each store would be
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
> everything else is doable as you laid out.
> Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
> You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
> another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website and
> they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
> the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store has
> its own look & feel.
>
> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:
>> Dear BJ,
>>
>> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
>>> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
>> I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
>>
>> Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores. Customer does
>> checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase
>> orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store, group
>> then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will then
>> debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the difference to
>> the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the WEBSITE will
>> not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
>>
>> The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already holds a
>> BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's own
>> commercial rules.
>>
>> It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales products
>> from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory. Revenue
>> comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the money,
>> he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
>>
>> Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from
>> several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy products
>> from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase order
>> and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all together to
>> the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$ 100,00 -
>> 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE bills
>> the factory store a sales commission.
>>
>>
>>
>> so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
>>> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz
>> Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
>>> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
>>> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
>>> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
>>> people envisions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
>>>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website
>>>> also.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
>>>>> accounting will work
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
>>>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any
>>>>> system
>>>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
>>>>> manually.
>>>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
>>>>> products
>>>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
>>> customer
>>>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
>>>>> direct
>>>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface
>>> for
>>>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
>>>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
>>> way
>>>>>>> I envision it.
>>>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to go
>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
>>>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
>>>>> mall.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
>>>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the Company
>>>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
>>>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
>>>>>>>>>> Saudações,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic
>>>>>>> outlet
>>>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
>>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store
>>> and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all the
>>>>>>>>> stores,
>>>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
>>>>> COMMISSIONS,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>
>>>
>

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Leonardo Ruoso-2
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How the better way to find products?

How the better way to show all dresses from all factories; all shirts from
selected factories; all products from one factory; all women jeans from all
factories?

How the better way to select products from several factories/suppliers, but
have a single shopping cart and pay at once?

2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>

> there is the rub.
> to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
> different website, internal to ofbiz.
> now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
> each store would be
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
> everything else is doable as you laid out.
> Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
> You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
> another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website and
> they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
> the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store has
> its own look & feel.
>
> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:
> > Dear BJ,
> >
> > 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >
> >> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
> >> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
> >
> > I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
> >
> > Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores. Customer
> does
> > checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase
> > orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store,
> group
> > then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will
> then
> > debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the difference to
> > the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the WEBSITE
> will
> > not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
> >
> > The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already holds
> a
> > BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's own
> > commercial rules.
> >
> > It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales products
> > from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory.
> Revenue
> > comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the
> money,
> > he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
> >
> > Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from
> > several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy
> products
> > from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase
> order
> > and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all together
> to
> > the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$ 100,00
> -
> > 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE
> bills
> > the factory store a sales commission.
> >
> >
> >
> > so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
> >> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz
> >
> > Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
> >> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
> >> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
> >> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
> >> people envisions.
> >>
> >>
> >> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
> >>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one website
> >>> also.
> >>>
> >>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>
> >>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
> >>>> accounting will work
> >>>>
> >>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
> >>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have any
> >>>> system
> >>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
> >>>> manually.
> >>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
> >>>> products
> >>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
> >> customer
> >>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
> >>>> direct
> >>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single interface
> >> for
> >>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
> >>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
> >> way
> >>>>>> I envision it.
> >>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to
> go
> >>>>>> further.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
> >>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are independent
> >>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
> >>>> mall.
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
> >>>>>> website
> >>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
> >>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the
> Company
> >>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
> >>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
> >>>>>>>>> Saudações,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an eletronic
> >>>>>> outlet
> >>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
> >>>> factory
> >>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each store
> >> and
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all
> the
> >>>>>>>> stores,
> >>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
> >>>> COMMISSIONS,
> >>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> TIA,
> >>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> BJ Freeman
> >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>
> >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >> Systems Integrator.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> BJ Freeman
> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> Systems Integrator.
>
>
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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

Leonardo Ruoso-2
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You say: "this would have one theme, which to model after the real B&M
Factory Outlet malls is not what they have.", but the current idea is not to
have several themes. I accept that this could probably change in the not so
far future.

2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>

> I should add that everyone would come to
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/ where you could have links to go to
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> the http://www.mallwebsite.br/
> you would have the main site where you would have promos and highlights
> for each store(factory)
> This would be an extra feature that the factories can use to draw
> customers.
> Each site
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> can have their own promos as well.
>
>
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:49 AM:
> > there is the rub.
> > to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
> > different website, internal to ofbiz.
> > now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
> > each store would be
> > http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> > http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
> > http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
> > http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
> > http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
> > everything else is doable as you laid out.
> > Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
> > You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
> > another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website and
> > they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
> > the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store has
> > its own look & feel.
> >
> > Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:
> >> Dear BJ,
> >>
> >> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>
> >>> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
> >>> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
> >> I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
> >>
> >> Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores. Customer
> does
> >> checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase
> >> orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store,
> group
> >> then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will
> then
> >> debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the difference
> to
> >> the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the WEBSITE
> will
> >> not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
> >>
> >> The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already holds
> a
> >> BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's
> own
> >> commercial rules.
> >>
> >> It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales
> products
> >> from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory.
> Revenue
> >> comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the
> money,
> >> he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
> >>
> >> Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from
> >> several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy
> products
> >> from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase
> order
> >> and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all together
> to
> >> the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$
> 100,00 -
> >> 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE
> bills
> >> the factory store a sales commission.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
> >>> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz
> >> Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
> >>> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
> >>> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
> >>> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
> >>> people envisions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
> >>>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one
> website
> >>>> also.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>
> >>>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
> >>>>> accounting will work
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
> >>>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have
> any
> >>>>> system
> >>>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
> >>>>> manually.
> >>>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
> >>>>> products
> >>>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
> >>> customer
> >>>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
> >>>>> direct
> >>>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single
> interface
> >>> for
> >>>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
> >>>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
> >>> way
> >>>>>>> I envision it.
> >>>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements to
> go
> >>>>>>> further.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are
> independent
> >>>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
> >>>>> mall.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
> >>>>>>> website
> >>>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
> >>>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the
> Company
> >>>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
> >>>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
> >>>>>>>>>> Saudações,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an
> eletronic
> >>>>>>> outlet
> >>>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
> >>>>> factory
> >>>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each
> store
> >>> and
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from all
> the
> >>>>>>>>> stores,
> >>>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
> >>>>> COMMISSIONS,
> >>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> TIA,
> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>>>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> --
> >>> BJ Freeman
> >>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >>> Systems Integrator.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
> --
> BJ Freeman
> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> Systems Integrator.
>
>
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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

Leonardo Ruoso-2
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BJ,

2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>

> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
> people envisions.
>

At this time. Do you still think this project should take a lot of work to
be done or what I've written in my last messages opened for one or two
easier, more OOTB deployment? I'm really open to propose some changes to the
project if this could reduce costs a lot.
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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

David E. Jones-2
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That's not quite true... you can change catalogs and stores on the  
fly. In fact, for the most part things are flexible enough that as-is  
or with small changes you can usually accommodate whatever is needed...

-David


On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:49 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> there is the rub.
> to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
> different website, internal to ofbiz.
> now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
> each store would be
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
> everything else is doable as you laid out.
> Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
> You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
> another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website  
> and
> they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
> the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store  
> has
> its own look & feel.
>
> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:
>> Dear BJ,
>>
>> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
>>> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
>>
>> I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
>>
>> Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores.  
>> Customer does
>> checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send  
>> purchase
>> orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each  
>> store, group
>> then together and send then to the customer at once. The website  
>> will then
>> debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the  
>> difference to
>> the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the  
>> WEBSITE will
>> not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
>>
>> The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already  
>> holds a
>> BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and  
>> it's own
>> commercial rules.
>>
>> It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales  
>> products
>> from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory.  
>> Revenue
>> comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects  
>> the money,
>> he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
>>
>> Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products  
>> from
>> several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy  
>> products
>> from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00  
>> purchase order
>> and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all  
>> together to
>> the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$  
>> 100,00 -
>> 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The  
>> WEBSITE bills
>> the factory store a sales commission.
>>
>>
>>
>> so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
>>> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in  
>>> ofbiz
>>
>> Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
>>> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
>>> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
>>> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours  
>>> than
>>> people envisions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
>>>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one  
>>>> website
>>>> also.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the  
>>>>> current
>>>>> accounting will work
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
>>>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not  
>>>>>> have any
>>>>> system
>>>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be  
>>>>>> done
>>>>> manually.
>>>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy  
>>>>>> several
>>>>> products
>>>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
>>> customer
>>>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will  
>>>>>> sale
>>>>> direct
>>>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single  
>>>>>>> interface
>>> for
>>>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
>>>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each  
>>>>>>> store, the
>>> way
>>>>>>> I envision it.
>>>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed  
>>>>>>> requirements to go
>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are  
>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc  
>>>>>>>> outlet
>>>>> mall.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-
>>>>>>>> commerce
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to  
>>>>>>>> mall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different  
>>>>>>>>> approach.
>>>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the  
>>>>>>>>> Company
>>>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
>>>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
>>>>>>>>>> Saudações,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an  
>>>>>>>>>> eletronic
>>>>>>> outlet
>>>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several  
>>>>>>>>>> diferent
>>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each  
>>>>>>>>>> store
>>> and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from  
>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>> stores,
>>>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
>>>>> COMMISSIONS,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> BJ Freeman
> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> Systems Integrator.
>

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Re: Eletronic Outlet Mall

BJ Freeman
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please address the rest of the requirements since this looks like it is
simple, which I don't see.

David E Jones sent the following on 7/17/2009 12:35 PM:

>
> That's not quite true... you can change catalogs and stores on the fly.
> In fact, for the most part things are flexible enough that as-is or with
> small changes you can usually accommodate whatever is needed...
>
> -David
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:49 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> there is the rub.
>> to have different catalogs assigned to different stores requires a
>> different website, internal to ofbiz.
>> now that can be under one Domain which is the Mall website.
>> each store would be
>> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store1
>> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store2
>> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store3
>> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store4
>> http://www.mallwebsite.br/store200
>> everything else is doable as you laid out.
>> Each would have its own Facility for Stock.
>> You can use inventory transfer to have one facility to do the shipping
>> another scenario is you can have all the catalogs under one website and
>> they select which one. this would have one theme, which to model after
>> the real B&M Factory Outlet malls is not what they have. Each store has
>> its own look & feel.
>>
>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 5:34 AM:
>>> Dear BJ,
>>>
>>> 2009/7/17 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> there probably need some clarification you said a mall.
>>>> that usually is one website that has a website per store.
>>>
>>> I agree with you but it`s not the case here.
>>>
>>> Just one WEBSITE. 200 catalogs from different Factory Stores.
>>> Customer does
>>> checkout at once. The WEBSITE collects the customer money, send purchase
>>> orders to each Factory Store. Collect each packages from each store,
>>> group
>>> then together and send then to the customer at once. The website will
>>> then
>>> debt it's commission from every purchase order and send the
>>> difference to
>>> the each factory store. It's not a resale operation because the
>>> WEBSITE will
>>> not BUY and RESALE goods. It's a sort of commercial representation.
>>>
>>> The company that will hold the WEBSITE is the COMPANY that already
>>> holds a
>>> BIG OUTLET MALL. Each factory store has it's own brand names and it's
>>> own
>>> commercial rules.
>>>
>>> It's more like a commercial representative operation, that sales
>>> products
>>> from several suppliers. Product and Price are ruled by the factory.
>>> Revenue
>>> comes from commission. As the commercial representative collects the
>>> money,
>>> he will send the factory the money already without the commission.
>>>
>>> Ex.: The customer (a reseller) comes to the website to buy products from
>>> several suppliers. Customer pays R$ 1.000,00 to the WEBSITE to buy
>>> products
>>> from 10 different suppliers. Each store receives a R$ 100,00 purchase
>>> order
>>> and pack it up. The WEBSITE collects each pack to send then all
>>> together to
>>> the customer. The WEBSITE then pay each store R$ 90,00, wich is R$
>>> 100,00 -
>>> 10%. The factory store SALES 'directly' to the customer. The WEBSITE
>>> bills
>>> the factory store a sales commission.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so I am assuming your speaking of the mall website. then each store
>>>> would be a clone website with its own productsStoreID defined in ofbiz
>>>
>>> Each store Website can have its own layout and Catalog.
>>>> All stores share the same Product info, meaning there is only one
>>>> product in ofbiz. The catalog decides if that product is included.
>>>> Where I find the problem is that these projects take more manhours than
>>>> people envisions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/17/2009 2:35 AM:
>>>>> Yes, we are the only company collecting money. There's only one
>>>>> website
>>>>> also.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> as long as you are the only company collecting money then the current
>>>>>> accounting will work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 1:07 PM:
>>>>>>> I'm not going to keep accounting for each store and will not have
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> integration with then. All the horizontal integration will be done
>>>>>> manually.
>>>>>>> Customer will browse the products from all the stores, buy several
>>>>>> products
>>>>>>> from several stores, pay at once. When we check the payment, the
>>>> customer
>>>>>>> order should generate several back orders, but the stores will sale
>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>> to the customer and we will pay then without our comission.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to keep accounting, and access separate, but have a single
>>>>>>>> interface
>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the shipping department would take some customization.
>>>>>>>> it would also take an instance of ofbiz running for each store, the
>>>> way
>>>>>>>> I envision it.
>>>>>>>> there may be other ways, would have to get detailed requirements
>>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:45 PM:
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's about sub-companies, because they are
>>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>>> companies that have in commom a factory store in an specifc outlet
>>>>>> mall.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> outlet mall team has a website and intends to create an e-commerce
>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>> to allow resellers to buy from the stores without coming to mall.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/7/16 BJ Freeman <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this has been answered before so let me take different approach.
>>>>>>>>>> The model was for A company and Sub-companies related to the
>>>>>>>>>> Company
>>>>>>>>>> Code can be written that allows this.
>>>>>>>>>> it is not 100% OOTB though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso sent the following on 7/16/2009 12:01 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>> Saudações,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know how much Ofbiz could help me deploy an
>>>>>>>>>>> eletronic
>>>>>>>> outlet
>>>>>>>>>>> mall. Resellers will login, add products from several diferent
>>>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>>>> stores and checkout. Ofbiz should create one order for each
>>>>>>>>>>> store
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> eletronic outlet mall staf will receive all the goods from
>>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>> stores,
>>>>>>>>>>> pack it and mail it to the custommer. Revenue is based on
>>>>>> COMMISSIONS,
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> we'll not resale anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Ruoso
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
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>>>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
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>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
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>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> BJ Freeman
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>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Systems Integrator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> BJ Freeman
>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
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>>
>> Systems Integrator.
>>
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