Framework Independence

[David E Jones-2]

Hello all,

In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to  
make it possible to run the framework without the applications  
directory.

This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able to  
extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity" tag.  
There were also a few things moved from applications to framework,  
and from framework to applications. This included some important  
things to note that have changed:

- control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login, logout,  
checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker

- the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now here:  
org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener

These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything  
should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me know  
and I'll look into it right away!

For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not really  
any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the financials  
and crmsfa modules.

This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a  
separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop  
their app into the framework, you can now run just about everything  
even if the applications directory is not there, with exception of a  
few pages like the entity performance tests in WebTools that refer to  
the Party and Product entities and need to be changed, probably to  
point to the Example and such entities.

-David

[David E Jones-2]

Okay, the attachments didn't make it. I think I've seen some get  
through so trying to attach a tgz file. If this doesn't work, I'll  
throw it on docs.ofbiz.org.

-David



On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:23 AM, David E. Jones wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to  
> make it possible to run the framework without the applications  
> directory.
>
> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able  
> to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity" tag.  
> There were also a few things moved from applications to framework,  
> and from framework to applications. This included some important  
> things to note that have changed:
>
> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login, logout,  
> checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>
> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now  
> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>
> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything  
> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me  
> know and I'll look into it right away!
>
> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not really  
> any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the financials  
> and crmsfa modules.
>
> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a  
> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop  
> their app into the framework, you can now run just about everything  
> even if the applications directory is not there, with exception of  
> a few pages like the entity performance tests in WebTools that  
> refer to the Party and Product entities and need to be changed,  
> probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>
> -David
>
>
>

[David E Jones-2]

Yeah, that's an annoying part about these new lists... though I guess  
it is good to have smaller messages going out, but we could do better  
if just limited the attachment size instead of having to wiki an  
attachment that is 1KB.

Here is page with the attachment:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/lgE

-David


On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:30 AM, David E. Jones wrote:

>
> Okay, the attachments didn't make it. I think I've seen some get  
> through so trying to attach a tgz file. If this doesn't work, I'll  
> throw it on docs.ofbiz.org.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:23 AM, David E. Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to  
>> make it possible to run the framework without the applications  
>> directory.
>>
>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able  
>> to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity"  
>> tag. There were also a few things moved from applications to  
>> framework, and from framework to applications. This included some  
>> important things to note that have changed:
>>
>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login,  
>> logout, checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>
>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now  
>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>
>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything  
>> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me  
>> know and I'll look into it right away!
>>
>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not  
>> really any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the  
>> financials and crmsfa modules.
>>
>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a  
>> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop  
>> their app into the framework, you can now run just about  
>> everything even if the applications directory is not there, with  
>> exception of a few pages like the entity performance tests in  
>> WebTools that refer to the Party and Product entities and need to  
>> be changed, probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>

[BJ Freeman]

clarification:
[For those who want to just drop their app into the framework, you can
now run just about everything even if the applications directory is not
there,]
So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be put into
the framework folder, like they use to be in the components folder.

David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:

>
> Hello all,
>
> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real release
> (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to make it
> possible to run the framework without the applications directory.
>
> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able to
> extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity" tag. There
> were also a few things moved from applications to framework, and from
> framework to applications. This included some important things to note
> that have changed:
>
> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login, logout,
> checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:
> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>
> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now here:
> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>
> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything
> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me know
> and I'll look into it right away!
>
> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not really any
> extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the financials and
> crmsfa modules.
>
> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a
> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop their
> app into the framework, you can now run just about everything even if
> the applications directory is not there, with exception of a few pages
> like the entity performance tests in WebTools that refer to the Party
> and Product entities and need to be changed, probably to point to the
> Example and such entities.
>
> -David
>
>
>

[David E Jones-2]

You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?

-David


On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> clarification:
> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework, you  
> can now run just about everything even if the applications  
> directory is not there,]
> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be put  
> into the framework folder, like they use to be in the components  
> folder.
>
> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>> Hello all,
>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to  
>> make it possible to run the framework without the applications  
>> directory.
>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able  
>> to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity"  
>> tag. There were also a few things moved from applications to  
>> framework, and from framework to applications. This included some  
>> important things to note that have changed:
>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login,  
>> logout, checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now  
>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything  
>> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me  
>> know and I'll look into it right away!
>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not  
>> really any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the  
>> financials and crmsfa modules.
>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a  
>> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop  
>> their app into the framework, you can now run just about  
>> everything even if the applications directory is not there, with  
>> exception of a few pages like the entity performance tests in  
>> WebTools that refer to the Party and Product entities and need to  
>> be changed, probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>> -David

[BJ Freeman]

You statement about dropping applications in the Framework.
Does that mean we will put the applications in the framework, like use
to be when the applications and framework were all in the components
folder, way back?

David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:17 PM:

>
> You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?
>
> -David
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> clarification:
>> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework, you can
>> now run just about everything even if the applications directory is
>> not there,]
>> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be put
>> into the framework folder, like they use to be in the components folder.
>>
>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>>> Hello all,
>>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real
>>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to
>>> make it possible to run the framework without the applications
>>> directory.
>>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able to
>>> extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity" tag.
>>> There were also a few things moved from applications to framework,
>>> and from framework to applications. This included some important
>>> things to note that have changed:
>>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login, logout,
>>> checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:
>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now here:
>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything
>>> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me know
>>> and I'll look into it right away!
>>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not really
>>> any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the financials
>>> and crmsfa modules.
>>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a
>>> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop
>>> their app into the framework, you can now run just about everything
>>> even if the applications directory is not there, with exception of a
>>> few pages like the entity performance tests in WebTools that refer to
>>> the Party and Product entities and need to be changed, probably to
>>> point to the Example and such entities.
>>> -David
>
>

[David E Jones-2]

I think I see what you mean... When I wrote "drop their apps into the  
framework" I was not referring to the framework directory, but rather  
to the Apache OFBiz Framework, which is everything in SVN except the  
"applications" directory.

So no, this doesn't mean any change in patterns of where to put your  
add-in components. They can go in the hot-deploy directory, or  
anywhere you want to put them and then refer to them from the  
component-load.xml.

-David


On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:34 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> You statement about dropping applications in the Framework.
> Does that mean we will put the applications in the framework, like  
> use to be when the applications and framework were all in the  
> components folder, way back?
>
> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:17 PM:
>> You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?
>> -David
>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> clarification:
>>> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework,  
>>> you can now run just about everything even if the applications  
>>> directory is not there,]
>>> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be  
>>> put into the framework folder, like they use to be in the  
>>> components folder.
>>>
>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
>>>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work  
>>>> to make it possible to run the framework without the  
>>>> applications directory.
>>>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be  
>>>> able to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-
>>>> entity" tag. There were also a few things moved from  
>>>> applications to framework, and from framework to applications.  
>>>> This included some important things to note that have changed:
>>>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login,  
>>>> logout, checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
>>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now  
>>>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so  
>>>> everything should be working fine... If you run into anything  
>>>> please let me know and I'll look into it right away!
>>>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not  
>>>> really any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the  
>>>> financials and crmsfa modules.
>>>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and  
>>>> a separate framework-only release. For those who want to just  
>>>> drop their app into the framework, you can now run just about  
>>>> everything even if the applications directory is not there, with  
>>>> exception of a few pages like the entity performance tests in  
>>>> WebTools that refer to the Party and Product entities and need  
>>>> to be changed, probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>>>> -David

[BJ Freeman]

Ok so you meant in any folder under the Ofbiz_home folder. or is that
now going to be ApacheOfizFrameWork_Home.


David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:46 PM:

>
> I think I see what you mean... When I wrote "drop their apps into the
> framework" I was not referring to the framework directory, but rather to
> the Apache OFBiz Framework, which is everything in SVN except the
> "applications" directory.
>
> So no, this doesn't mean any change in patterns of where to put your
> add-in components. They can go in the hot-deploy directory, or anywhere
> you want to put them and then refer to them from the component-load.xml.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:34 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> You statement about dropping applications in the Framework.
>> Does that mean we will put the applications in the framework, like use
>> to be when the applications and framework were all in the components
>> folder, way back?
>>
>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:17 PM:
>>> You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?
>>> -David
>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> clarification:
>>>> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework, you
>>>> can now run just about everything even if the applications directory
>>>> is not there,]
>>>> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be put
>>>> into the framework folder, like they use to be in the components
>>>> folder.
>>>>
>>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real
>>>>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to
>>>>> make it possible to run the framework without the applications
>>>>> directory.
>>>>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be able
>>>>> to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-entity" tag.
>>>>> There were also a few things moved from applications to framework,
>>>>> and from framework to applications. This included some important
>>>>> things to note that have changed:
>>>>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login, logout,
>>>>> checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:
>>>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>>>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now
>>>>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>>>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so everything
>>>>> should be working fine... If you run into anything please let me
>>>>> know and I'll look into it right away!
>>>>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not really
>>>>> any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the financials
>>>>> and crmsfa modules.
>>>>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a
>>>>> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop
>>>>> their app into the framework, you can now run just about everything
>>>>> even if the applications directory is not there, with exception of
>>>>> a few pages like the entity performance tests in WebTools that
>>>>> refer to the Party and Product entities and need to be changed,
>>>>> probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>>>>> -David
>
>

[David E Jones-2]

Actually, with the component loader the components can be anywhere.  
They don't have to be under the ofbiz directory. The home directory  
will always be "ofbiz.home", that is the name of the Java env var  
that is populated with it.

-David


On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:59 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Ok so you meant in any folder under the Ofbiz_home folder. or is  
> that now going to be ApacheOfizFrameWork_Home.
>
>
> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:46 PM:
>> I think I see what you mean... When I wrote "drop their apps into  
>> the framework" I was not referring to the framework directory, but  
>> rather to the Apache OFBiz Framework, which is everything in SVN  
>> except the "applications" directory.
>> So no, this doesn't mean any change in patterns of where to put  
>> your add-in components. They can go in the hot-deploy directory,  
>> or anywhere you want to put them and then refer to them from the  
>> component-load.xml.
>> -David
>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:34 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> You statement about dropping applications in the Framework.
>>> Does that mean we will put the applications in the framework,  
>>> like use to be when the applications and framework were all in  
>>> the components folder, way back?
>>>
>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:17 PM:
>>>> You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?
>>>> -David
>>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>> clarification:
>>>>> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework,  
>>>>> you can now run just about everything even if the applications  
>>>>> directory is not there,]
>>>>> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be  
>>>>> put into the framework folder, like they use to be in the  
>>>>> components folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real  
>>>>>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work  
>>>>>> to make it possible to run the framework without the  
>>>>>> applications directory.
>>>>>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be  
>>>>>> able to extend entities defined elsewhere using the "extend-
>>>>>> entity" tag. There were also a few things moved from  
>>>>>> applications to framework, and from framework to applications.  
>>>>>> This included some important things to note that have changed:
>>>>>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login,  
>>>>>> logout, checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
>>>>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>>>>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now  
>>>>>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>>>>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so  
>>>>>> everything should be working fine... If you run into anything  
>>>>>> please let me know and I'll look into it right away!
>>>>>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not  
>>>>>> really any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for  
>>>>>> the financials and crmsfa modules.
>>>>>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release  
>>>>>> and a separate framework-only release. For those who want to  
>>>>>> just drop their app into the framework, you can now run just  
>>>>>> about everything even if the applications directory is not  
>>>>>> there, with exception of a few pages like the entity  
>>>>>> performance tests in WebTools that refer to the Party and  
>>>>>> Product entities and need to be changed, probably to point to  
>>>>>> the Example and such entities.
>>>>>> -David

[BJ Freeman]

Thanks for clarifying this. Neat.


David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 1:07 PM:

>
> Actually, with the component loader the components can be anywhere. They
> don't have to be under the ofbiz directory. The home directory will
> always be "ofbiz.home", that is the name of the Java env var that is
> populated with it.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:59 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> Ok so you meant in any folder under the Ofbiz_home folder. or is that
>> now going to be ApacheOfizFrameWork_Home.
>>
>>
>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:46 PM:
>>> I think I see what you mean... When I wrote "drop their apps into the
>>> framework" I was not referring to the framework directory, but rather
>>> to the Apache OFBiz Framework, which is everything in SVN except the
>>> "applications" directory.
>>> So no, this doesn't mean any change in patterns of where to put your
>>> add-in components. They can go in the hot-deploy directory, or
>>> anywhere you want to put them and then refer to them from the
>>> component-load.xml.
>>> -David
>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 1:34 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> You statement about dropping applications in the Framework.
>>>> Does that mean we will put the applications in the framework, like
>>>> use to be when the applications and framework were all in the
>>>> components folder, way back?
>>>>
>>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:17 PM:
>>>>> You lost me... could you re-phrase the question?
>>>>> -David
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:33 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>> clarification:
>>>>>> [For those who want to just drop their app into the framework, you
>>>>>> can now run just about everything even if the applications
>>>>>> directory is not there,]
>>>>>> So are you saying that the application, as such will be  now be
>>>>>> put into the framework folder, like they use to be in the
>>>>>> components folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 8/13/2006 12:23 AM:
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and later a real
>>>>>>> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a bit of work to
>>>>>>> make it possible to run the framework without the applications
>>>>>>> directory.
>>>>>>> This included a new little feature in the entity engine to be
>>>>>>> able to extend entities defined elsewhere using the
>>>>>>> "extend-entity" tag. There were also a few things moved from
>>>>>>> applications to framework, and from framework to applications.
>>>>>>> This included some important things to note that have changed:
>>>>>>> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin, login,
>>>>>>> logout, checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:
>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>>>>>>> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml files) is now
>>>>>>> here: org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>>>>>>> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz so
>>>>>>> everything should be working fine... If you run into anything
>>>>>>> please let me know and I'll look into it right away!
>>>>>>> For convenience (and since doing search and replace it's not
>>>>>>> really any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for the
>>>>>>> financials and crmsfa modules.
>>>>>>> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete release and a
>>>>>>> separate framework-only release. For those who want to just drop
>>>>>>> their app into the framework, you can now run just about
>>>>>>> everything even if the applications directory is not there, with
>>>>>>> exception of a few pages like the entity performance tests in
>>>>>>> WebTools that refer to the Party and Product entities and need to
>>>>>>> be changed, probably to point to the Example and such entities.
>>>>>>> -David
>
>

[cjhowe]

What are you thoughts on graduation occuring before
ApacheCon 2006 in Austin (October 9-13)?  Will there
be an OFBiz presense at ApacheCon?

--- "David E. Jones" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> In preparation for doing a release candidate, and
> later a real  
> release (soon after incubator graduation), I did a
> bit of work to  
> make it possible to run the framework without the
> applications  
> directory.
>
> This included a new little feature in the entity
> engine to be able to  
> extend entities defined elsewhere using the
> "extend-entity" tag.  
> There were also a few things moved from applications
> to framework,  
> and from framework to applications. This included
> some important  
> things to note that have changed:
>
> - control servlet request events (mainly checkLogin,
> login, logout,  
> checkExternalLoginKey, etc) are now in:  
> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginWorker
>
> - the LoginEventListener (referred to in web.xml
> files) is now here:  
> org.ofbiz.webapp.control.LoginEventListener
>
> These have been updated in all of the files in OFBiz
> so everything  
> should be working fine... If you run into anything
> please let me know  
> and I'll look into it right away!
>
> For convenience (and since doing search and replace
> it's not really  
> any extra work... ;) ) attached are some patches for
> the financials  
> and crmsfa modules.
>
> This gets us pretty close to ready to do a complete
> release and a  
> separate framework-only release. For those who want
> to just drop  
> their app into the framework, you can now run just
> about everything  
> even if the applications directory is not there,
> with exception of a  
> few pages like the entity performance tests in
> WebTools that refer to  
> the Party and Product entities and need to be
> changed, probably to  
> point to the Example and such entities.
>
> -David
>
>
> >
>

[David E Jones-2]

On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Chris Howe wrote:

> What are you thoughts on graduation occuring before
> ApacheCon 2006 in Austin (October 9-13)?

It's possible. We are getting pretty close, but still have one iCLA  
coming in (sending has been confirmed) and a few other little things  
to do. Once the RC is done it will take some time for people on this  
list to review it (especially the committers) and then for the  
incubator board and others involved and interested there to review it  
before it is final. Once that is done we should be ready to propose  
graduation and request a vote.

> Will there
> be an OFBiz presense at ApacheCon?

I don't know. I haven't heard back on my proposal so I'm pretty sure  
I won't be presenting there. Unless there are going to be more people  
attending and such, I'm not even going to try and get a booth or  
anything, given that I was alone manning the OFBiz booth at OSCON. It  
was nice to meet people and such, but the overhead was a little high  
to repeat.

Does anyone have plans to go, or present or other such?

-David

[cjhowe]

I'm in the Dallas area so it's a short jaunt down to
Austin and Austin is always a good time. I don't think
I would be interested in much of the other Apache
project presentations as most of the other projects
talk reminds me of Professor Frink and flux capacitors
with the exception of licensing.  

I'd certainly be interested in getting together the
weekend before or after for an informal gethering to
discuss OFBiz and other things of interest.



--- "David E. Jones" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>
> On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Chris Howe wrote:
>
> > What are you thoughts on graduation occuring
> before
> > ApacheCon 2006 in Austin (October 9-13)?
>
> It's possible. We are getting pretty close, but
> still have one iCLA  
> coming in (sending has been confirmed) and a few
> other little things  
> to do. Once the RC is done it will take some time
> for people on this  
> list to review it (especially the committers) and
> then for the  
> incubator board and others involved and interested
> there to review it  
> before it is final. Once that is done we should be
> ready to propose  
> graduation and request a vote.
>
> > Will there
> > be an OFBiz presense at ApacheCon?
>
> I don't know. I haven't heard back on my proposal so
> I'm pretty sure  
> I won't be presenting there. Unless there are going
> to be more people  
> attending and such, I'm not even going to try and
> get a booth or  
> anything, given that I was alone manning the OFBiz
> booth at OSCON. It  
> was nice to meet people and such, but the overhead
> was a little high  
> to repeat.
>
> Does anyone have plans to go, or present or other
> such?
>
> -David
>
>