Hello,
During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I can start the cleaning ? Cheers, Nicolas (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte=1M:javaScriptEnabled -- logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> Nicolas Malin The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical decisions are made publicly [hidden email] 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way <http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE <http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> |
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Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . Cheers Paul Foxworthy On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, > > During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we > currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to > indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. > This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not > found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) > > Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: > * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen > * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a > dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. > > Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I > can start the cleaning ? > > Cheers, > Nicolas > (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 > (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= > 1M:javaScriptEnabled > -- > logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> > Nicolas Malin > The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical > decisions are made publicly > [hidden email] > 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 > > Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < > http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < > http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> > -- Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 2773 Cheltenham Vic 3192 Australia Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ Email: [hidden email]
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https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 Cheers Paul Foxworthy On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Nicolas, > > Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ > jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . > > Cheers > > Paul Foxworthy > > > On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >> >> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >> >> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >> can start the cleaning ? >> >> Cheers, >> Nicolas >> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >> -- >> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >> Nicolas Malin >> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >> decisions are made publicly >> [hidden email] >> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >> >> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >> > > > > -- > Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd > PO Box 2773 > Cheltenham Vic 3192 > Australia > > Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> > Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ > Email: [hidden email] > -- Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 2773 Cheltenham Vic 3192 Australia Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ Email: [hidden email]
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I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) Jacques Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : > See also > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 > > Cheers > > Paul Foxworthy > > > On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Foxworthy >> >> >> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>> >>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>> >>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>> can start the cleaning ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nicolas >>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>> -- >>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>> Nicolas Malin >>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>> decisions are made publicly >>> [hidden email] >>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>> >>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >> PO Box 2773 >> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >> Australia >> >> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >> Email: [hidden email] >> > > |
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I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix"
Jacques Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Hi Nicolas, Paul, > > I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) > > See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) > > Jacques > > > Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >> See also >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Foxworthy >> >> >> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Nicolas, >>> >>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul Foxworthy >>> >>> >>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>> >>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>> >>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nicolas >>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>> -- >>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>> Nicolas Malin >>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>> decisions are made publicly >>>> [hidden email] >>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>> >>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>> PO Box 2773 >>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>> Australia >>> >>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>> Email: [hidden email] >>> >> >> > > |
Hi Paul, Hi Jacques,
Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can manage it by a specific theme, if no objection I will remove this complexity. If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on new theme. Nicolas Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 > and subtasks as "won't fix" > > Jacques > > > Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >> >> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with >> Adrian then (2011) >> >> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks >> Paul) >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>> See also >>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul Foxworthy >>> >>> >>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming >>>>> javaScriptEnabled to >>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and >>>>> I not >>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>> >>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? >>>>> Or I >>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>> -- >>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>> >>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr >>>>> <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>> PO Box 2773 >>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>> Australia >>>> >>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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Hi Nicolas,
Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not broke some features Please see the issues broken by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 Thanks Jacques Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : > Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, > > Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can manage it by a > specific theme, if no objection I will remove this complexity. > > If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on new theme. > > Nicolas > > > Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix" >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>> >>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) >>> >>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>> See also >>>> >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>> >>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>> -- >>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>> >>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>> Australia >>>>> >>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Yes Jacques I will help to fix them before
Nicolas Le 30/08/2017 à 09:39, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Hi Nicolas, > > Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not > broke some features > > Please see the issues broken by > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 > > Thanks > > Jacques > > > Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >> Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, >> >> Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage >> the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can >> manage it by a specific theme, if no objection I will remove this >> complexity. >> >> If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on >> new theme. >> >> Nicolas >> >> >> Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> I we agree I'll close >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as >>> "won't fix" >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>>> >>>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with >>>> Adrian then (2011) >>>> >>>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>> (thanks Paul) >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>>> See also >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming >>>>>>> javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) >>>>>>> and I not >>>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled >>>>>>> ? Or I >>>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr >>>>>>> <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>>> Australia >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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Much appreciated, I'll try to help also (I'm used to manually "bisect" svn ;)) Jacques Le 30/08/2017 à 09:49, Nicolas Malin a écrit : > Yes Jacques I will help to fix them before > > Nicolas > > > Le 30/08/2017 à 09:39, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not broke some features >> >> Please see the issues broken by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >>> Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, >>> >>> Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can manage it by >>> a specific theme, if no objection I will remove this complexity. >>> >>> If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on new theme. >>> >>> Nicolas >>> >>> >>> Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix" >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>>>> >>>>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) >>>>> >>>>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>>>> See also >>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>>>> Australia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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Jacques Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix" > > Jacques > > > Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >> >> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) >> >> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>> See also >>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul Foxworthy >>> >>> >>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>> >>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>> -- >>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>> >>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>> PO Box 2773 >>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>> Australia >>>> >>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
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Ok I solved the different problem (I hope) with the common-theme
migration, I wait one week and if it's ok, I will remove it Nicolas Le 30/08/2017 à 10:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Thanks Nicolas, > > Much appreciated, I'll try to help also (I'm used to manually "bisect" > svn ;)) > > Jacques > > Le 30/08/2017 à 09:49, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >> Yes Jacques I will help to fix them before >> >> Nicolas >> >> >> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:39, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> Hi Nicolas, >>> >>> Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not >>> broke some features >>> >>> Please see the issues broken by >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >>>> Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage >>>> the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can >>>> manage it by a specific theme, if no objection I will remove this >>>> complexity. >>>> >>>> If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on >>>> new theme. >>>> >>>> Nicolas >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> I we agree I'll close >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as >>>>> "won't fix" >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>>>>> >>>>>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with >>>>>> Adrian then (2011) >>>>>> >>>>>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>>>> (thanks Paul) >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>>>>> See also >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin >>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming >>>>>>>>> javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) >>>>>>>>> and I not >>>>>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two >>>>>>>>> reasons: >>>>>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can >>>>>>>>> create a >>>>>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of >>>>>>>>> javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>>>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>>>>> Australia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>>>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>>>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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Jacques Le 31/08/2017 à 17:30, Nicolas Malin a écrit : > Ok I solved the different problem (I hope) with the common-theme migration, I wait one week and if it's ok, I will remove it > > Nicolas > > > Le 30/08/2017 à 10:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> Thanks Nicolas, >> >> Much appreciated, I'll try to help also (I'm used to manually "bisect" svn ;)) >> >> Jacques >> >> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:49, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >>> Yes Jacques I will help to fix them before >>> >>> Nicolas >>> >>> >>> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:39, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not broke some features >>>> >>>> Please see the issues broken by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : >>>>> Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can manage it >>>>> by a specific theme, if no objection I will remove this complexity. >>>>> >>>>> If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on new theme. >>>>> >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>> I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix" >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>>>>>> See also >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>>>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>>>>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>>>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>>>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>>>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>>>>>> The apache way <http://theapacheway.com/> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>>>>>> http://theapacheway.com/>|ofbiz-fr <http://www.ofbiz-fr.org/>|réseau LE < >>>>>>>>>> http://www.libre-entreprise.org/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>>>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>>>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>>>>>> Australia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ >>>>>>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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We patch to force JavaScript enabled always Y. I honestly can't see any good reason why it's in ofbiz now. Most widgets require the use of JavaScript. Most sites use javascript. It has actually caused us problems in the past where, for some reason, JavaScript enabled was set to Not even though it shouldn't have. Get rid of it and let the themes handle if JavaScript is used Gareth Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Gareth Carter Software Development Analyst Stannah Management Services Ltd IT Department Ext: 7036 DDI: 01264 364311 [http://logos.stannah.co.uk/stan150.jpg] [http://logos.stannah.co.uk/enviro.jpg]Please consider the environment before printing this email. -------- Original message -------- From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> Date: 30/08/2017 08:39 (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Keep javaScriptEnabled manage on the framework ? Hi Nicolas, Let's try, but we should also check that the common-theme has not broke some features Please see the issues broken by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-9138 Thanks Jacques Le 30/08/2017 à 09:26, Nicolas Malin a écrit : > Hi Paul, Hi Jacques, > > Thanks for your return, this interesting threads confirm to manage the javascript or not increase the code complexity. Now how we can manage it by a > specific theme, if no objection I will remove this complexity. > > If we detect that impact some users, we restore this complexity on new theme. > > Nicolas > > > Le 29/08/2017 à 11:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> I we agree I'll close https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 and subtasks as "won't fix" >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 29/08/2017 à 09:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> Hi Nicolas, Paul, >>> >>> I got to the same conclusion than Nicolas after discussing with Adrian then (2011) >>> >>> See last of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 (thanks Paul) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 29/08/2017 à 02:15, Paul Foxworthy a écrit : >>>> See also >>>> >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ffec3d998998db85655e1003f64268d52f9c7e9b6a4e537008e4b691@1295177952@%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4120 >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4121 >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 August 2017 at 10:08, Paul Foxworthy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>> >>>>> Adrian said something about this in https://issues.apache.org/ >>>>> jira/browse/OFBIZ-1648 . >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Paul Foxworthy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 August 2017 at 07:46, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> During my refactoring to introduce the common-theme I saw that we >>>>>> currently manage on the framework a variable naming javaScriptEnabled to >>>>>> indicate if a user want or not use the javascipt. >>>>>> This functionality has been introduction by Adrian in 2008 (1) and I not >>>>>> found the origin thread (2) (maybe pre-apache) >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I didn't see why we keep this on the framework for two reasons: >>>>>> * With Html5, without javascript we haven't operational screen >>>>>> * If we don't want javascript for a specific case, we can create a >>>>>> dedicate theme for that and simplify the current code. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have a reason to keep the management of javaScriptEnabled ? Or I >>>>>> can start the cleaning ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>> (1) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=655712 >>>>>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@...:lte= >>>>>> 1M:javaScriptEnabled >>>>>> -- >>>>>> logoNrd <https://nereide.fr/> >>>>>> Nicolas Malin >>>>>> The apache way <http://webdefence.global.blackspider.com/urlwrap/?q=AXicFcxBCsIwEAXQf6KJVGiobgQX9QIeYIihI6ZJmY4tPVihW5fexUOo-8dDi-MbWF-ApqWqmUadqOd7CiWblkSh9Jj81d8uXb3bN76p0LJGEzqzWtTTaJwzyw_S8wExGw7OmUQeOEicefkXDsBnA74WoSUb&Z> : *Openness* Technical >>>>>> decisions are made publicly >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> 8 rue des Déportés 37000 TOURS, 02 47 50 30 54 >>>>>> >>>>>> Apache OFBiz <http://ofbiz.apache.org/>|The Apache Way < >>>>>> http://webdefence.global.blackspider.com/urlwrap/?q=AXicFcxBCsIwEAXQf6KJVGiobgQX9QIeYIihI6ZJmY4tPVihW5fexUOo-8dDi-MbWF-ApqWqmUadqOd7CiWblkSh9Jj81d8uXb3bN76p0LJGEzqzWtTTaJwzyw_S8wExGw7OmUQeOEicefkXDsBnA74WoSUb&Z>|ofbiz-fr <http://webdefence.global.blackspider.com/urlwrap/?q=AXicY3BnsD7JwLD1IANDUU6lkVmiXnFRmV5uYmZOcn5eSVF-jl5yfi5DmXmoeYpHupmBsaW5pRGDe2JRakmGnnNiUUlqkUNxSWJeXmIGUKFeaTZDRklJgZW-fnl5uV5-WlJmlW5akV5-Ubo-AwPDmx0MDAATOiTi&Z>|réseau LE < >>>>>> http://webdefence.global.blackspider.com/urlwrap/?q=AXicDcxBCsIwEAXQfyEnUqGhuhFc1At4gLEOTTBNyiQ2eDDBrUvv4iHs_vHQ4_AFXh9Aw7NpmbIuNLEPQ4pFU6AhTVjsxd7OY7vddbZr0LNKcXRiLaLHXDhGdiukxx2ulHlvTK2Vgr-qbGRtZFafhZKOBsDvDfwBV08oPw&Z> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd >>>>> PO Box 2773 >>>>> Cheltenham Vic 3192 >>>>> Australia >>>>> >>>>> Phone: +61 3 9585 6788 <+61%203%209585%206788> >>>>> Web: http://webdefence.global.blackspider.com/urlwrap/?q=AXicFYxBCsIwEEX_iSalQkN1I7ioF_AAQ41GTBOZTBs8mODWZe_iIYzbx3sPA3Yr8PoAEp5tx5RloYlvYUxRJQUa04TFnuz5eO2aTW_7FgOLU08HFnWyz8oxsq8izXd41cfWmFJKBd6Ji5rTRUtN_ivi2QD4voEf2xYpgQ&Z >>>>> Email: [hidden email] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > To report this email as spam, please send the original message, complete with headers to [hidden email] This email is intended only for the above addressee. 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