Leveraging Youtube
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I thought occurs to me that putting up youtubes would promote ofbiz.
each person could take a focus and walk it through begin to end. the would promote ofbiz and the person doing the youtube. |
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Rishi Solanki Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:52 AM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote: > I thought occurs to me that putting up youtubes would promote ofbiz. > each person could take a focus and walk it through begin to end. > the would promote ofbiz and the person doing the youtube. > > |
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Yes this is certainly a good idea, viral marketing is very efficient. Keep it clean though (looks like even Google is doing evil
now...) Jacques From: "Rishi Solanki" <[hidden email]> > +1. > > Rishi Solanki > Enterprise Software Developer > HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:52 AM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I thought occurs to me that putting up youtubes would promote ofbiz. >> each person could take a focus and walk it through begin to end. >> the would promote ofbiz and the person doing the youtube. >> >> > |
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In reply to this post by Rishi Solanki
I was planning on like how to configure a component. what would evil? ======================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> <http://newforums.ystoretools.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49>Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/28/2010 2:01 PM: > Yes this is certainly a good idea, viral marketing is very efficient. > Keep it clean though (looks like even Google is doing evil now...) > > Jacques > > From: "Rishi Solanki" <[hidden email]> >> +1. >> >> Rishi Solanki >> Enterprise Software Developer >> HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:52 AM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> I thought occurs to me that putting up youtubes would promote ofbiz. >>> each person could take a focus and walk it through begin to end. >>> the would promote ofbiz and the person doing the youtube. >>> >>> >> > > > |
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my example of why you should leverage youtube..
When I was tasked by my boss to find a ERP+Ecommerce solution I first asked him, "do you have any Idea of what program you would like to use?". He said, "Sure, NetSuite but we can't afford it". The first thing I did was google "NetSuite Pricing" and one of the top five links was a You Tube video for a cloud based ERP-Ecommerce company out of England. Good video. I stopped my search, inquired and after 2 days of phone calls and demo driving I realized that this program could never meet my requirements. From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know it. A simple video that has all the right search keywords should do wonders. |
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Oops, soory I did not read the article completly
http://privacylaw.proskauer.com/2009/02/articles/international/google-execs-face-privacyrelated-and-other-criminal-charges-for-taunting-video/ For what it's said here I'd not say that Google is doing evil at all Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > > I was planning on like how to configure a component. > > what would evil? > > ======================= > > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > <http://newforums.ystoretools.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49>Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/28/2010 2:01 PM: >> Yes this is certainly a good idea, viral marketing is very efficient. >> Keep it clean though (looks like even Google is doing evil now...) >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Rishi Solanki" <[hidden email]> >>> +1. >>> >>> Rishi Solanki >>> Enterprise Software Developer >>> HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:52 AM, BJ Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> I thought occurs to me that putting up youtubes would promote ofbiz. >>>> each person could take a focus and walk it through begin to end. >>>> the would promote ofbiz and the person doing the youtube. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > |
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AGoens wrote:
> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know > it. Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. |
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Hi AGoens & Chris:
Complex and too confusing. They become discouraged and look elsewhere. Regards, Ruth Christopher Snow wrote: > AGoens wrote: >> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just >> don't know >> it. > Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too > complex. > |
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I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the
learning curve is too steep. On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: > AGoens wrote: > > From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know > > it. > Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. -- Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. |
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Chris, Ruth, Matt,
I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. Jacopo On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: > I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the > learning curve is too steep. > > On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >> AGoens wrote: >>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>> it. >> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. > > > -- > Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> > RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. > |
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Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences.
I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > Chris, Ruth, Matt, > > I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. > > Jacopo > > > On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: > > >> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the >> learning curve is too steep. >> >> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >> >>> AGoens wrote: >>> >>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>>> it. >>>> >>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. >>> >> -- >> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> >> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. >> >> > > |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
> Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences. No, no... you are complaining a lot!!! > I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. > And while doing this you complain... The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to perform a task. Kind regards, Jacopo > Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >> Chris, Ruth, Matt, >> >> I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. >> >> Jacopo >> >> >> On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: >> >> >>> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the >>> learning curve is too steep. >>> >>> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >>> >>>> AGoens wrote: >>>> >>>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. >>>> >>> -- >>> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> >>> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. >>> >>> >> >> > |
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In reply to this post by Chris Snow-3
+1. Have had several (I thought) useful discussions with Jacques and
others about how OFBiz can be improved. Helping where I can. Sorry it's pushing your buttons. On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 15:38 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences. > > I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as > documentation, bug fixes, etc. > > Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > > Chris, Ruth, Matt, > > > > I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. > > > > Jacopo > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: > > > > > >> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the > >> learning curve is too steep. > >> > >> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: > >> > >>> AGoens wrote: > >>> > >>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know > >>>> it. > >>>> > >>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. > >>> > >> -- > >> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> > >> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. > >> > >> > > > > -- Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. |
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In reply to this post by Jacopo Cappellato-4
Thanks for the frank feedback Jacopo. I guess you are having problems
with the way the community works? (is that another complaint? I'm not sure) >> I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. >> > And while doing this you complain... > The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to perform a task. > > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > |
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In reply to this post by Matt Warnock
Hi Matt, Me too, have the same experience like you do. - Charles TJ ======= -----Original Message----- From: Matt Warnock [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: 01 March 2010 21:58 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Leveraging Youtube I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the learning curve is too steep. On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: > AGoens wrote: > > From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know > > it. > Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. -- Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. |
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I agree with Jacopo,
On the other hand it's also true that Chris try to help and is tossing around some interesting ideas (OSGI, etc.). So if we could have only this good relation it would be better for everybody I think... My 2cts Jacques From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]> > On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: > >> Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences. > > No, no... you are complaining a lot!!! > >> I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. >> > > And while doing this you complain... > The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys > in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to > perform a task. > > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > > >> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>> Chris, Ruth, Matt, >>> >>> I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will >>> select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the >>>> learning curve is too steep. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>> >>>>> AGoens wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> >>>> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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In reply to this post by Jacopo Cappellato-4
Hi Jacopo:
How can you build great software or any product for that matter, if you don't listen to what your customer's have to say? In such a case, your "great software" is only great in your eyes. But perhaps that is what you want? Looks to me like you should put on your ear phones and get back to work. Regards, Ruth Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: > > >> Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences. >> > > No, no... you are complaining a lot!!! > > >> I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. >> >> > > And while doing this you complain... > The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to perform a task. > > Kind regards, > > Jacopo > > > >> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >> >>> Chris, Ruth, Matt, >>> >>> I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the >>>> learning curve is too steep. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> AGoens wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> >>>> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Christopher Snow wrote:
> Thanks for the frank feedback Jacopo. I guess you are having problems with the way the community works? (is that another complaint? I'm not sure) Do not put words in my mouth: I have specifically addressed my complains (!!!) to you, Matt and Ruth mostly because of the number of messages that you find the time to post, while struggling with OFBiz: I think it is amazing that you are still able to find out the time to study and progress with OFBiz. I don't have any problem with the community. Jacopo > >>> I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. >>> >> And while doing this you complain... >> The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to perform a task. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jacopo >> > |
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Jacopo: > > How can you build great software or any product for that matter, if you don't listen to what your customer's have to say? In such a case, your "great software" is only great in your eyes. But perhaps that is what you want? > Still complaining? > Looks to me like you should put on your ear phones and get back to work. Yeah, you are right Jacopo > Regards, > Ruth > > Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jacopo, I'm not complaining - I'm merely stating my experiences. >> >> No, no... you are complaining a lot!!! >> >> >>> I am also trying to help with the areas that are a problem, such as documentation, bug fixes, etc. >>> >>> >> >> And while doing this you complain... >> The way I see the public lists is like an open space office, where people are building together a great software; and having guys in the near desk that can't work in silence, or that have to jump in in every conversation is annoying if you are trying to perform a task. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jacopo >> >> >> >>> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>> >>>> Chris, Ruth, Matt, >>>> >>>> I am sorry to know that your experience with OFBiz was not good; I wish you all the best with the software package that you will select for your business: but please, please, please, stop complaining here. >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I AM a small business owner, and you're both right. I need it, but the >>>>> learning curve is too steep. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:31 +0000, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> AGoens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From my perspective, small business owners need OFBiz, they just don't know >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Really? I've found that small business owners find ofbiz much too complex. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matt Warnock <[hidden email]> >>>>> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> |
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To turn this into a positive, perhaps we need somewhere on the wiki
where we catalog the issues of the community? that way we won't need to keep fighting these battles. This shouldn't become an area for slating ofbiz, it shown be used to document actual issues and what is happening to resolve them. At the moment, every one has their own opinion what is best for ofbiz. However, we all agree that ofbiz needs more people interested in it - let's find out what users/developers really want from ofbiz? How about putting the ofbiz survey to use? Ruth is right, we should listen to our customers, especially those that are disheartened. Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I agree with Jacopo, > > On the other hand it's also true that Chris try to help and is tossing > around some interesting ideas (OSGI, etc.). > So if we could have only this good relation it would be better for > everybody I think... > > My 2cts > > Jacques > |
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