Marketing

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hastily reading http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2014/08/all-you-ever-need-to-know-about-recursive-sql.html
I stumbled upon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Object_Oriented_Querying
wich leaded me to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software

Don't you think OFBiz should be mentionned in these 2 pages (and such relevant pages) even if it's not really an ORM but an viable alternative (look
at Jira and what became Atlassian)

I already maintain OFBiz in few Wikipedia pages but would appreciate an help here if you think it's relevant

Thanks

Jacques

[Ron Wheeler]

I don't see it but if it was to be included, how would you position it
against Hibernate or MyBatisor or TopLink or JPA.
Is there enough documentation that could be referenced from these pages
that would actually explain how to use OFBiz as tool?

No point pissing off people by pointing them to something that is not
fully suported as a tool.

Ron

On 03/09/2014 12:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hastily reading
> http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2014/08/all-you-ever-need-to-know-about-recursive-sql.html
> I stumbled upon
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Object_Oriented_Querying
> wich leaded me to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software
>
> Don't you think OFBiz should be mentionned in these 2 pages (and such
> relevant pages) even if it's not really an ORM but an viable
> alternative (look at Jira and what became Atlassian)
>
> I already maintain OFBiz in few Wikipedia pages but would appreciate
> an help here if you think it's relevant
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>

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[Pierre Smits]

First of all: the more references in other pages linking to
http://ofbiz.apache.org there are the better it is for the ranking of
OFBiz. However, just doing links is worse than doing links in referring
texts. As in text you can use the word OFBiz more often.

So yes, it would help regarding awareness. But the text itself can degrade
the brand and should be thought through carefully.

Maybe we should do a page in the wiki that list all the pages where OFBiz
is (and could/should be) referenced, so that we have an overview of what
external webpages need to be maintained as well.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hastily reading http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2014/08/all-you-ever-need-to-
> know-about-recursive-sql.html
> I stumbled upon
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Object_Oriented_Querying
> wich leaded me to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software
>
> Don't you think OFBiz should be mentionned in these 2 pages (and such
> relevant pages) even if it's not really an ORM but an viable alternative
> (look at Jira and what became Atlassian)
>
> I already maintain OFBiz in few Wikipedia pages but would appreciate an
> help here if you think it's relevant
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 03/09/2014 06:51, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
> I don't see it but if it was to be included, how would you position it against Hibernate or MyBatisor or TopLink or JPA.
> Is there enough documentation that could be referenced from these pages that would actually explain how to use OFBiz as tool?
>
> No point pissing off people by pointing them to something that is not fully suported as a tool.

You are right on your 2 last points. It's hard to excerpt the Entity Engine and we have no documentation for that.
So better forget theses pages. By and large if you (users) find other pages please let us (users) now in order to decide on this strategy for those pages

Thanks

Jacques

>
> Ron
>
> On 03/09/2014 12:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Hastily reading http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2014/08/all-you-ever-need-to-know-about-recursive-sql.html
>> I stumbled upon
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Object_Oriented_Querying
>> wich leaded me to
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software
>>
>> Don't you think OFBiz should be mentionned in these 2 pages (and such relevant pages) even if it's not really an ORM but an viable alternative
>> (look at Jira and what became Atlassian)
>>
>> I already maintain OFBiz in few Wikipedia pages but would appreciate an help here if you think it's relevant
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 03/09/2014 08:53, Pierre Smits a écrit :

> First of all: the more references in other pages linking to
> http://ofbiz.apache.org there are the better it is for the ranking of
> OFBiz. However, just doing links is worse than doing links in referring
> texts. As in text you can use the word OFBiz more often.
>
> So yes, it would help regarding awareness. But the text itself can degrade
> the brand and should be thought through carefully.
>
> Maybe we should do a page in the wiki that list all the pages where OFBiz
> is (and could/should be) referenced, so that we have an overview of what
> external webpages need to be maintained as well.

That would be an idea indeed, only major pages though (like Wikipedia) else it's endless I guess

Jacques

>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hastily reading http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2014/08/all-you-ever-need-to-
>> know-about-recursive-sql.html
>> I stumbled upon
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Object_Oriented_Querying
>> wich leaded me to
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software
>>
>> Don't you think OFBiz should be mentionned in these 2 pages (and such
>> relevant pages) even if it's not really an ORM but an viable alternative
>> (look at Jira and what became Atlassian)
>>
>> I already maintain OFBiz in few Wikipedia pages but would appreciate an
>> help here if you think it's relevant
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>