Mobile E-Commerce

[Scott.]

Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.

Thanks.

[BJ Freeman]

Lawyer advised against it with our current federal and state laws about
using hand held devices with driving, under the product liability of the
software.

Scott. sent the following on 7/28/2010 10:57 AM:
>
> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>
> Thanks.

[Scott.]

In all honesty BJ, your lawyer ought to be strung up by the nuts. This is what Internet Retailer reported this morning;

The Urgency of Mobile Commerce for E-Retailers

These facts that should be an urgent wake-up call for Internet retailers on the need to add mobile commerce sites and apps to their online retail businesses.
 
There are now 60 million web-enabled smartphones in the U.S., double the number of one year ago.
 
At the end of last year, smartphones accounted for 21% of cell phones in the U.S. and by the end of Q1 of this year they accounted for 29%, according to the Nielsen Company. Nielsen projects that by the third quarter of next year, smartphones will outnumber conventional cell phones.
 
Traffic at m-commerce sites is up more than 50% in the first half of this year, and the number of mobile commerce sites is now growing so fast, it’s hard to keep track of the number.
 
Sales are booming at m-commerce sites. Last week, Internet Retailer reported that Amazon booked more than $1 billion in mobile commerce sales in the last 12 months.

If we as internet retailers want to stay relevant, this is a priority.

[Scott Gray-2]

Haha, you've gotta be making that up.

Regards
Scott

On 29/07/2010, at 8:57 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Lawyer advised against it with our current federal and state laws about using hand held devices with driving, under the product liability of the software.
>
> Scott. sent the following on 7/28/2010 10:57 AM:
>>
>> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
>> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
>> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>>
>> Thanks.

[Jacques Le Roux]

:D (I was not sure it was a joke, subtle ;o)

Jacques

From: "Scott Gray" <[hidden email]>
Haha, you've gotta be making that up.

Regards
Scott

On 29/07/2010, at 8:57 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Lawyer advised against it with our current federal and state laws about using hand held devices with driving, under the product
> liability of the software.
>
> Scott. sent the following on 7/28/2010 10:57 AM:
>>
>> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
>> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
>> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>>
>> Thanks.

[BJ Freeman]

it is extreme I know, but let me tell you a real story.
we manufactured a Pilot for boats.
all over the equipment we have tags that states it requires a constant
attention of a human when in use.
the Pilot is so accurate you can set it, miles, out in the sea and it
would get you were you want.
Many single fisherman would set the pilot and a alarm clock and wake
enough time to navigate the ship the last few mile or so into harbor.
Well one such person did this but did not wake up and his ship ran into
the marina, damaging a lot of vessels.
His lawyer saw a chance to go after a large source of money and sued us,
under product liability that it did not stop the fisherman from using it
that way.
He lost but it took time and money to defend. Way more than what we sold
the pilot to him for.

So the lawyer's advice, who has been our legal adviser for decades, was
I would have to have so much liability insurance against such possibilities.
It was more than I felt I would make on a yearly basis for that feature.


Scott Gray sent the following on 7/28/2010 2:37 PM:

> Haha, you've gotta be making that up.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 29/07/2010, at 8:57 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> Lawyer advised against it with our current federal and state laws about using hand held devices with driving, under the product liability of the software.
>>
>> Scott. sent the following on 7/28/2010 10:57 AM:
>>>
>>> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
>>> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
>>> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>

[Shi Jinghai]

Not difficult. You can use the user-agent in http header to redirect the
visits from mobile to suitable websites. Here is an iphone's user-agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us)
AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11
Safari/528.16

Regards,

Shi Jinghai/Beijing Langhua Ltd.

在 2010-07-28三的 10:57 -0700，Scott.写道：
> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>
> Thanks.

[Jacques Le Roux]

Ha, so finally you was serious. The real world is full of surprises, this is what makes it so exciting.
This said it's a very specific case, since it was piloting. Driving would be the same, but it has to be a feature of the software.
OFBiz is not at this level yet ;o)

Thanks for the tip though!

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>

> it is extreme I know, but let me tell you a real story.
> we manufactured a Pilot for boats.
> all over the equipment we have tags that states it requires a constant attention of a human when in use.
> the Pilot is so accurate you can set it, miles, out in the sea and it would get you were you want.
> Many single fisherman would set the pilot and a alarm clock and wake enough time to navigate the ship the last few mile or so into
> harbor.
> Well one such person did this but did not wake up and his ship ran into the marina, damaging a lot of vessels.
> His lawyer saw a chance to go after a large source of money and sued us, under product liability that it did not stop the
> fisherman from using it that way.
> He lost but it took time and money to defend. Way more than what we sold the pilot to him for.
>
> So the lawyer's advice, who has been our legal adviser for decades, was I would have to have so much liability insurance against
> such possibilities.
> It was more than I felt I would make on a yearly basis for that feature.
>
>
> Scott Gray sent the following on 7/28/2010 2:37 PM:
>> Haha, you've gotta be making that up.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On 29/07/2010, at 8:57 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> Lawyer advised against it with our current federal and state laws about using hand held devices with driving, under the product
>>> liability of the software.
>>>
>>> Scott. sent the following on 7/28/2010 10:57 AM:
>>>>
>>>> Have any of the devs/service providers here tackled a fully fledged mobile
>>>> e-commerce site for iphone/blackberry/wm/droid, etc? It seems it's going to
>>>> be an essential part of business for anyone selling B2C.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>
>