Not official Apache OFBiz web site

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),

I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl

Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not and
official Apache OFBiz site.

The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...

This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use ofbiz in your domain names...
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains

see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"

Thanks

Jacques
PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its
domain name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz site would not hurt...
The same apllies for
http://www.ofbiz.biz/
http://www.ofbiz.de/
etc. (you know better than us... for now...)

This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask

[Jacopo Cappellato-4]

On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

>
> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>

As aside trivial note... the translation of

"The best things in life are FREE"

into

"Las mejores cosas de la visa son GRATIS."

is awful :-)

Jacopo

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Jacques & List:

I've had this discussion with the Apache Foundation in the past as I too
am concerned about copyright infringement and misrepresenting my
purpose. The Foundation's legal advisers found my "interpretation" of
the rules satisfactory.

FYI, I do clearly state the relationship with the Apache Foundation here:

http://www.myofbiz.com/control/faqs

More specifically, I clearly write:

    Is MyOFBiz.com affiliated with the Apache Foundation or Apache OFBiz?

    No.


Best Regards,
Ruth

On 4/17/12 5:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>
> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>
> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  
> http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not
> and official Apache OFBiz site.
>
> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did
> not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>
> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use
> ofbiz in your domain names...
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>
> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not
> '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain
> name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz
> site would not hurt...
> The same apllies for
> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
> http://www.ofbiz.de/
> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf
> of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Ruth,

I think it's pretty clear, even if a small sentence about it on the main page would not hurt ;o)
Anyway, if you got ASF consent I have nothing more to say

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>

> Hi Jacques & List:
>
> I've had this discussion with the Apache Foundation in the past as I too
> am concerned about copyright infringement and misrepresenting my
> purpose. The Foundation's legal advisers found my "interpretation" of
> the rules satisfactory.
>
> FYI, I do clearly state the relationship with the Apache Foundation here:
>
> http://www.myofbiz.com/control/faqs
>
> More specifically, I clearly write:
>
>    Is MyOFBiz.com affiliated with the Apache Foundation or Apache OFBiz?
>
>    No.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth
>
> On 4/17/12 5:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>>
>> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>>
>> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  
>> http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not
>> and official Apache OFBiz site.
>>
>> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did
>> not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>>
>> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use
>> ofbiz in your domain names...
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>>
>> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not
>> '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain
>> name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz
>> site would not hurt...
>> The same apllies for
>> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
>> http://www.ofbiz.de/
>> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
>> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf
>> of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask
>>
>

[Daniel Riquelme-2]

Ok Jaques thanks for the clarification, I will change the site appearance and will add a note to clearly state that my site is not an officil Apache OFBiz site.

Best regards,

Daniel Riquelme

Gerente General

F.: [phone]

Providencia 2331 of 401

Santiago, Chile

www.riab.cl

El 17-04-2012, a las 5:19, Jacques Le Roux escribió:

http://www.ofbiz.it

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Jacques:

Thanks for pointing this out. Initially I thought that no one really
cared. Next update to the site I will add such a disclaimer.

Regards,
Ruth
On 4/17/12 7:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Thanks Ruth,
>
> I think it's pretty clear, even if a small sentence about it on the
> main page would not hurt ;o)
> Anyway, if you got ASF consent I have nothing more to say
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>
>> Hi Jacques & List:
>>
>> I've had this discussion with the Apache Foundation in the past as I
>> too am concerned about copyright infringement and misrepresenting my
>> purpose. The Foundation's legal advisers found my "interpretation" of
>> the rules satisfactory.
>>
>> FYI, I do clearly state the relationship with the Apache Foundation
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.myofbiz.com/control/faqs
>>
>> More specifically, I clearly write:
>>
>>    Is MyOFBiz.com affiliated with the Apache Foundation or Apache OFBiz?
>>
>>    No.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>> On 4/17/12 5:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>>>
>>> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>>>
>>> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  
>>> http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not
>>> and official Apache OFBiz site.
>>>
>>> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did
>>> not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>>>
>>> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use
>>> ofbiz in your domain names...
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>>>
>>> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not
>>> '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain
>>> name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz
>>> site would not hurt...
>>> The same apllies for
>>> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
>>> http://www.ofbiz.de/
>>> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
>>> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on
>>> behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask
>>>
>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Ruth,

Appreciated

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>

> Hi Jacques:
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. Initially I thought that no one really
> cared. Next update to the site I will add such a disclaimer.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
> On 4/17/12 7:32 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Thanks Ruth,
>>
>> I think it's pretty clear, even if a small sentence about it on the
>> main page would not hurt ;o)
>> Anyway, if you got ASF consent I have nothing more to say
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>
>>> Hi Jacques & List:
>>>
>>> I've had this discussion with the Apache Foundation in the past as I
>>> too am concerned about copyright infringement and misrepresenting my
>>> purpose. The Foundation's legal advisers found my "interpretation" of
>>> the rules satisfactory.
>>>
>>> FYI, I do clearly state the relationship with the Apache Foundation
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://www.myofbiz.com/control/faqs
>>>
>>> More specifically, I clearly write:
>>>
>>>    Is MyOFBiz.com affiliated with the Apache Foundation or Apache OFBiz?
>>>
>>>    No.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> On 4/17/12 5:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>>>>
>>>> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  
>>>> http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not
>>>> and official Apache OFBiz site.
>>>>
>>>> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did
>>>> not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>>>>
>>>> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use
>>>> ofbiz in your domain names...
>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>>>>
>>>> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not
>>>> '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain
>>>> name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz
>>>> site would not hurt...
>>>> The same apllies for
>>>> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
>>>> http://www.ofbiz.de/
>>>> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
>>>> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on
>>>> behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask
>>>>
>>>
>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Daniel,

Appreciated

Looking forward

Jacques
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Daniel Riquelme
  To: Jacques Le Roux
  Cc: [hidden email]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Not official Apache OFBiz web site


  Ok Jaques thanks for the clarification, I will change the site appearance and will add a note to clearly state that my site is not an officil Apache OFBiz site.


  Best regards,


  Daniel Riquelme
  Gerente General







  F.: [phone]
  Providencia 2331 of 401
  Santiago, Chile
  www.riab.cl


  El 17-04-2012, a las 5:19, Jacques Le Roux escribió:


    http://www.ofbiz.it

[Daniel Riquelme-2]

Ok, I added a note at the top right in english and spanish.

I'm pending the appearance modification, I hope I can get it done by this weekend.

Best Regards,

Daniel Riquelme

Gerente General

F.: [phone]

Providencia 2331 of 401

Santiago, Chile

www.riab.cl

El 17-04-2012, a las 5:19, Jacques Le Roux escribió:

Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),

I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl

Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not and official Apache OFBiz site.

The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...

This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use ofbiz in your domain names...
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains

see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"

Thanks

Jacques
PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz site would not hurt...
The same apllies for
http://www.ofbiz.biz/
http://www.ofbiz.de/
etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks Daniel,

I think you can stay as is for the appearance, as long as nobody complains

The problem is actually more about ofbiz in the domain name. But you are not alone in this situation and nobody complained for others so far...

Other opinions?

Jacques
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Daniel Riquelme
  To: Jacques Le Roux
  Cc: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Not official Apache OFBiz web site


  Ok, I added a note at the top right in english and spanish.
  I'm pending the appearance modification, I hope I can get it done by this weekend.


  Best Regards,


  Daniel Riquelme
  Gerente General



  F.: [phone]
  Providencia 2331 of 401
  Santiago, Chile
  www.riab.cl


  El 17-04-2012, a las 5:19, Jacques Le Roux escribió:


    Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),

    I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl

    Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not and official Apache OFBiz site.

    The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...

    This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use ofbiz in your domain names...
    http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains

    see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"

    Thanks

    Jacques
    PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its domain name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz site would not hurt...
    The same apllies for
    http://www.ofbiz.biz/
    http://www.ofbiz.de/
    etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
    This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Guys,

I again stumbled upon this today. Could you please do the same than Daniel did at http://www.ofbiz.cl/
ie add the sentence "This site is not an official Apache Software Foundation Site" and its translation for the corresponding languages

As far as I can tell are at least concerned
http://www.ofbiz.nl/control/setSessionLocale?newLocale=nl
http://www.ofbiz.nl/control/setSessionLocale?newLocale=th
http://www.ofbiz.biz/
http://www.ofbiz.de/

If you know any other concerned sites please let us know in order for us to contact them directly

Thanks in advance

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:19 AM

> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>
> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>
> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not and
> official Apache OFBiz site.
>
> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>
> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use ofbiz in your domain names...
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>
> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its
> domain name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz site would not hurt...
> The same apllies for
> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
> http://www.ofbiz.de/
> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
>
> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask

[Jacques Le Roux]

OK, no answers after a week. I will talk about it with the PMC and maybe furter, rules shall be respected!

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> Hi Guys,
>
> I again stumbled upon this today. Could you please do the same than Daniel did at http://www.ofbiz.cl/
> ie add the sentence "This site is not an official Apache Software Foundation Site" and its translation for the corresponding languages
>
> As far as I can tell are at least concerned
> http://www.ofbiz.nl/control/setSessionLocale?newLocale=nl
> http://www.ofbiz.nl/control/setSessionLocale?newLocale=th
> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
> http://www.ofbiz.de/
>
> If you know any other concerned sites please let us know in order for us to contact them directly
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:19 AM
>> Hi Daniel (and any person in the same situation),
>>
>> I have noticed "your" site at http://www.ofbiz.cl
>>
>> Like did for instance Marco Risaliti some time ago with  http://www.ofbiz.it you need to clearly state that your site is not and
>> official Apache OFBiz site.
>>
>> The same applies to ofbiz.nl and ofbiz.th (maybe it's done but I did not find it clear like did Marco) and I guess others...
>>
>> This is the minimum required, and actually you should not even use ofbiz in your domain names...
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#domains
>>
>> see also there "Using the Apache Foo or similar graphic logos:"
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>> PS : I think it's ok for http://www.myofbiz.com because it does not '"mimic" official OFBiz site and does not use ofbiz in its
>> domain name. Though a little note about  not being an official Apache OFBiz site would not hurt...
>> The same apllies for
>> http://www.ofbiz.biz/
>> http://www.ofbiz.de/
>> etc. (you know better than us... for now...)
>>
>> This my own interpretation of the ASF rules and I don't act on behalf of APache OFBiz PMC, but I think I'm right to ask
>