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[Si Chen-2]

Did you do this manually?

Si

Charles Johnson wrote:

>>>This would be based on the "example" component
>>>      
>>>
>
>I don't know if this would be of any use David, but in an effort to
>understand that component, i put together the following UML diagram:
>
>http://www.cehjohnson.uklinux.net/dumpit/ExampleEntities.png
>
>CJ
>
>David E. Jones wrote:
>
>  
>
>>This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first few
>>months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this but as
>>thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford to work on.
>>
>>The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in
>>helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework part,
>>which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"
>>directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is
>>still more.
>>
>>That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot to
>>do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing
>>materials and training materials and such. We will probably split the
>>ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the framework and
>>another focused on the applications (or the business level/side more
>>generally).
>>
>>For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit of
>>work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort will
>>be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than attract.
>>The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical tour" that
>>goes over the architecture and tools in the framework and shows how
>>they all fit together. This would be based on the "example" component
>>and the artifact reference diagram in the quick reference book. There
>>is a link to an image of this diagram on the Undersun Store page for
>>the quick reference book at:
>>
>>http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/
>>~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>>
>>I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things like
>>containers, components, and the various widgets all in the same style
>>as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and various
>>others on the current Docs & Books page.
>>
>>-David
>>
>>
>>On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>David,
>>>
>>>Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/
>>>webtools
>>>and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether  this is
>>>still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could perhaps
>>>give
>>>a quick update.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your time.
>>>--
>>>Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>>>Sykes Development Ltd
>>>
>>>
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[Charles Johnson-2]

>>Did you do this manually?

Yes. If you can see any inaccuracies (multiplicity for instance), please
let me know and i'll correct them. More detail could go in if necessary,
such as field names. I could supply the model file too (ArgoUML)

I wasn't sure if the concept of navigability was wholly applicable in
OfBiz, but it points up the direction of the field relationships at least.

I'm a little puzzled too by the 'hanging' entity ExampleItem.

Has anyone, btw, written anything about this 'example application'?

CJ

Si Chen wrote:

> Did you do this manually?
>
> Si
>
> Charles Johnson wrote:
>
>>>> This would be based on the "example" component    
>>>
>>
>> I don't know if this would be of any use David, but in an effort to
>> understand that component, i put together the following UML diagram:
>>
>> http://www.cehjohnson.uklinux.net/dumpit/ExampleEntities.png
>>
>> CJ
>>
>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first
>>> few months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this
>>> but as thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford
>>> to work on.
>>>
>>> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in
>>> helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework part,
>>> which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"
>>> directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is
>>> still more.
>>>
>>> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot to
>>> do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing
>>> materials and training materials and such. We will probably split
>>> the ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the framework
>>> and another focused on the applications (or the business level/side
>>> more generally).
>>>
>>> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit
>>> of work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort
>>> will be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than
>>> attract. The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical
>>> tour" that goes over the architecture and tools in the framework and
>>> shows how they all fit together. This would be based on the
>>> "example" component and the artifact reference diagram in the quick
>>> reference book. There is a link to an image of this diagram on the
>>> Undersun Store page for the quick reference book at:
>>>
>>> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/
>>> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>>>
>>> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things
>>> like containers, components, and the various widgets all in the same
>>> style as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and
>>> various others on the current Docs & Books page.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/
>>>> webtools
>>>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether
>>>> this is
>>>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could perhaps
>>>> give
>>>> a quick update.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Users mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>    
>>>
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[David E. Jones]

Yes, there are training materials from the conference training this  
year that have diagrams and an overview of the example app. We  
haven't done anything more formal yet.

The ExampleItem shouldn't be hanging, it has a foreign key reference  
to the Example entity.

-David


On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Charles Johnson wrote:

>>> Did you do this manually?
>
> Yes. If you can see any inaccuracies (multiplicity for instance),  
> please
> let me know and i'll correct them. More detail could go in if  
> necessary,
> such as field names. I could supply the model file too (ArgoUML)
>
> I wasn't sure if the concept of navigability was wholly applicable in
> OfBiz, but it points up the direction of the field relationships at  
> least.
>
> I'm a little puzzled too by the 'hanging' entity ExampleItem.
>
> Has anyone, btw, written anything about this 'example application'?
>
> CJ
>
> Si Chen wrote:
>
>> Did you do this manually?
>>
>> Si
>>
>> Charles Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>>> This would be based on the "example" component
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if this would be of any use David, but in an effort to
>>> understand that component, i put together the following UML diagram:
>>>
>>> http://www.cehjohnson.uklinux.net/dumpit/ExampleEntities.png
>>>
>>> CJ
>>>
>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first
>>>> few months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this
>>>> but as thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford
>>>> to work on.
>>>>
>>>> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in
>>>> helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework part,
>>>> which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"
>>>> directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is
>>>> still more.
>>>>
>>>> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a  
>>>> lot to
>>>> do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing
>>>> materials and training materials and such. We will probably split
>>>> the ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the  
>>>> framework
>>>> and another focused on the applications (or the business level/side
>>>> more generally).
>>>>
>>>> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit
>>>> of work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort
>>>> will be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than
>>>> attract. The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical
>>>> tour" that goes over the architecture and tools in the framework  
>>>> and
>>>> shows how they all fit together. This would be based on the
>>>> "example" component and the artifact reference diagram in the quick
>>>> reference book. There is a link to an image of this diagram on the
>>>> Undersun Store page for the quick reference book at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/
>>>> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things
>>>> like containers, components, and the various widgets all in the  
>>>> same
>>>> style as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and
>>>> various others on the current Docs & Books page.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/
>>>>> webtools
>>>>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether
>>>>> this is
>>>>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could  
>>>>> perhaps
>>>>> give
>>>>> a quick update.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>
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[Charles Johnson-2]

>>The ExampleItem shouldn't be hanging, it has a foreign key reference
to the Example entity.

I might be being a bit stupid, but this is what i see:

=================================================================
    <entity entity-name="Example"
        package-name="org.ofbiz.example.example"
        title="Example Entity">
        <field name="exampleId" type="id-ne"><!-- primary sequenced ID
--></field>
        <field name="exampleTypeId" type="id-ne"></field>
        <field name="statusId" type="id-ne"></field>
        <field name="exampleName" type="name"></field>
        <field name="description" type="description"></field>
        <field name="longDescription" type="very-long"></field>
        <field name="comments" type="comment"></field>
        <field name="exampleSize" type="numeric"></field>
        <field name="exampleDate" type="date-time"></field>
        <prim-key field="exampleId"/>
        <relation type="one" fk-name="EXMPL_TYP"
rel-entity-name="ExampleType">
            <key-map field-name="exampleTypeId"/>
        </relation>
        <relation type="one" fk-name="EXMPL_STTS"
rel-entity-name="StatusItem">
            <key-map field-name="statusId"/>
        </relation>
    </entity>
    <entity entity-name="ExampleItem"
        package-name="org.ofbiz.example.example"
        title="Example Item Entity">
        <field name="exampleId" type="id-ne"></field>
        <field name="exampleItemSeqId" type="id-ne"><!-- secondary
sequenced ID --></field>
        <field name="description" type="description"></field>
        <field name="amount" type="floating-point"></field>
        <field name="amountUomId" type="id"></field>
        <prim-key field="exampleId"/>
        <prim-key field="exampleItemSeqId"/>
        <relation type="one" fk-name="EXMPLIT_UOM" title="Amount"
rel-entity-name="Uom">
            <key-map field-name="amountUomId" rel-field-name="uomId"/>
        </relation>
    </entity>
==============================================================
CJ

David E. Jones wrote:

>
> Yes, there are training materials from the conference training this
> year that have diagrams and an overview of the example app. We
> haven't done anything more formal yet.
>
> The ExampleItem shouldn't be hanging, it has a foreign key reference
> to the Example entity.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Charles Johnson wrote:
>
>>>> Did you do this manually?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. If you can see any inaccuracies (multiplicity for instance),
>> please
>> let me know and i'll correct them. More detail could go in if
>> necessary,
>> such as field names. I could supply the model file too (ArgoUML)
>>
>> I wasn't sure if the concept of navigability was wholly applicable in
>> OfBiz, but it points up the direction of the field relationships at
>> least.
>>
>> I'm a little puzzled too by the 'hanging' entity ExampleItem.
>>
>> Has anyone, btw, written anything about this 'example application'?
>>
>> CJ
>>
>> Si Chen wrote:
>>
>>> Did you do this manually?
>>>
>>> Si
>>>
>>> Charles Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> This would be based on the "example" component
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if this would be of any use David, but in an effort to
>>>> understand that component, i put together the following UML diagram:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cehjohnson.uklinux.net/dumpit/ExampleEntities.png
>>>>
>>>> CJ
>>>>
>>>> David E. Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first
>>>>> few months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this
>>>>> but as thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford
>>>>> to work on.
>>>>>
>>>>> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in
>>>>> helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework part,
>>>>> which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"
>>>>> directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is
>>>>> still more.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a  lot to
>>>>> do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing
>>>>> materials and training materials and such. We will probably split
>>>>> the ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the  framework
>>>>> and another focused on the applications (or the business level/side
>>>>> more generally).
>>>>>
>>>>> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit
>>>>> of work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort
>>>>> will be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than
>>>>> attract. The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical
>>>>> tour" that goes over the architecture and tools in the framework  and
>>>>> shows how they all fit together. This would be based on the
>>>>> "example" component and the artifact reference diagram in the quick
>>>>> reference book. There is a link to an image of this diagram on the
>>>>> Undersun Store page for the quick reference book at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/
>>>>> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things
>>>>> like containers, components, and the various widgets all in the  same
>>>>> style as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and
>>>>> various others on the current Docs & Books page.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/
>>>>>> webtools
>>>>>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could  perhaps
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> a quick update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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[Andreas Schmidt-4]

the new project i'm working on, doesn't need ofbiz' applications and i
just wanted to use the framework part of it.

so i'm tring to separate the framework from ofbiz.

as a first step, i just all subfolders of applications, added a new
folder myapp, modified build.xml and component-load.xml, and called ant
run-install.

build runs fine, but installation failed. i received an error message:

      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Party

so tried to re-added the party-application, but now i receive

      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Product

so it seem's, that the framework's entitymodels aren't completly
contained in the framework. before re-adding other applications step by
step, i think it's time to ask other about the right way.

any hints how to continue?

thanks in advance,
   andi

btw: i would really like to support this task of separating the
framework from the rest, as soon as we've finally decided to use ofbiz
for the project to come (some other technical requirements have to be
fulfilled before)

David E. Jones schrieb:

>
> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first few  
> months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this but as  
> thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford to work on.
>
> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in  helping...)
> are mostly centered around testing the framework part,  which is
> basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"  directory. We
> have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is  still more.
>
> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot to  do
> (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing  
> materials and training materials and such. We will probably split the  
> ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the framework and  
> another focused on the applications (or the business level/side more  
> generally).
>
> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit of  
> work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort will  be
> a waste and we will alienate more potential users than attract.  The
> highest priority here is some sort of a "technical tour" that  goes over
> the architecture and tools in the framework and shows how  they all fit
> together. This would be based on the "example" component  and the
> artifact reference diagram in the quick reference book. There  is a link
> to an image of this diagram on the Undersun Store page for  the quick
> reference book at:
>
> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/ 
> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>
> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things like  
> containers, components, and the various widgets all in the same style  
> as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and various  
> others on the current Docs & Books page.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/ webtools
>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether  this is
>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could perhaps  give
>> a quick update.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>> --
>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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[David E. Jones]

There is a better approach to this than adding the applications back  
one at a time and that is to trace down the data dependencies and do  
something about them. There shouldn't be any references to Party or  
Product in the framework (a Party slipping in I could imagine, but  
Product doesn't make much sense). This is the bulk of the technical  
work that needs to be done for the framework separation, ie tracing  
down dependencies.

-David


On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Andreas Schmidt wrote:

> the new project i'm working on, doesn't need ofbiz' applications  
> and i just wanted to use the framework part of it.
>
> so i'm tring to separate the framework from ofbiz.
>
> as a first step, i just all subfolders of applications, added a new  
> folder myapp, modified build.xml and component-load.xml, and called  
> ant run-install.
>
> build runs fine, but installation failed. i received an error message:
>
>      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
>      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Party
>
> so tried to re-added the party-application, but now i receive
>
>      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
>      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Product
>
> so it seem's, that the framework's entitymodels aren't completly  
> contained in the framework. before re-adding other applications  
> step by step, i think it's time to ask other about the right way.
>
> any hints how to continue?
>
> thanks in advance,
>   andi
>
> btw: i would really like to support this task of separating the  
> framework from the rest, as soon as we've finally decided to use  
> ofbiz for the project to come (some other technical requirements  
> have to be fulfilled before)
>
> David E. Jones schrieb:
>> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first  
>> few  months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on  
>> this but as  thing get more busy it is simply not something I can  
>> afford to work on.
>> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in  
>> helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework  
>> part,  which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the  
>> "applications"  directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I  
>> suspect there is  still more.
>> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot  
>> to  do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together  
>> marketing  materials and training materials and such. We will  
>> probably split the  ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one  
>> focused on the framework and  another focused on the applications  
>> (or the business level/side more  generally).
>> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit  
>> of  work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort  
>> will  be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than  
>> attract.  The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical  
>> tour" that  goes over the architecture and tools in the framework  
>> and shows how  they all fit together. This would be based on the  
>> "example" component  and the artifact reference diagram in the  
>> quick reference book. There  is a link to an image of this diagram  
>> on the Undersun Store page for  the quick reference book at:
>> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/ 
>> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things  
>> like  containers, components, and the various widgets all in the  
>> same style  as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine  
>> Guide, and various  others on the current Docs & Books page.
>> -David
>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/  
>>> webtools
>>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether  
>>> this is
>>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could  
>>> perhaps  give
>>> a quick update.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time.
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[BJ Freeman]

Some clarification please.
one the separation is done, would there still be effort to keep the
appliations in sync with the frame work.
if not how do you see the applications being supported.


David E. Jones sent the following on 11/18/05 10:24 PM:

>
> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first few  
> months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on this but as  
> thing get more busy it is simply not something I can afford to work on.
>
> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in  helping...)
> are mostly centered around testing the framework part,  which is
> basically everything in OFBiz exempt the "applications"  directory. We
> have isolated a lot of stuff, but I suspect there is  still more.
>
> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot to  do
> (probably various weeks of work) in putting together marketing  
> materials and training materials and such. We will probably split the  
> ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one focused on the framework and  
> another focused on the applications (or the business level/side more  
> generally).
>
> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit of  
> work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort will  be
> a waste and we will alienate more potential users than attract.  The
> highest priority here is some sort of a "technical tour" that  goes over
> the architecture and tools in the framework and shows how  they all fit
> together. This would be based on the "example" component  and the
> artifact reference diagram in the quick reference book. There  is a link
> to an image of this diagram on the Undersun Store page for  the quick
> reference book at:
>
> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/ 
> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>
> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things like  
> containers, components, and the various widgets all in the same style  
> as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine Guide, and various  
> others on the current Docs & Books page.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/ webtools
>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether  this is
>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could perhaps  give
>> a quick update.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>> --
>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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[Andreas Schmidt-4]

i don't feel deep enough into ofbiz to know how to "do something about"
references to entities outside the framework. the only idea i have, is
to move all entity-definitions that are referenced from the framework
into a new component inside the framework (or maybe into the
common-component).

this sould work without any code-changes. but is this the right way?


btw.: i started to reduce ofbiz to the framework, because i just wanted
to evaluate the entity-engine without the ofbiz-applications and
couldn't find documentation how to use the entity-engine without the
framework. any ideas, where i could find such information? or do i have
to use the whole framework for that, if i don't want to recode much of
the configuration/data-facilities of the entity-engine?

thanks,
        andi

David E. Jones schrieb:

>
> There is a better approach to this than adding the applications back  
> one at a time and that is to trace down the data dependencies and do  
> something about them. There shouldn't be any references to Party or  
> Product in the framework (a Party slipping in I could imagine, but  
> Product doesn't make much sense). This is the bulk of the technical  
> work that needs to be done for the framework separation, ie tracing  
> down dependencies.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Andreas Schmidt wrote:
>
>> the new project i'm working on, doesn't need ofbiz' applications  and
>> i just wanted to use the framework part of it.
>>
>> so i'm tring to separate the framework from ofbiz.
>>
>> as a first step, i just all subfolders of applications, added a new  
>> folder myapp, modified build.xml and component-load.xml, and called  
>> ant run-install.
>>
>> build runs fine, but installation failed. i received an error message:
>>
>>      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
>>      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Party
>>
>> so tried to re-added the party-application, but now i receive
>>
>>      [java] Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericModelException
>>      [java] Message: Could not find definition for entity name Product
>>
>> so it seem's, that the framework's entitymodels aren't completly  
>> contained in the framework. before re-adding other applications  step
>> by step, i think it's time to ask other about the right way.
>>
>> any hints how to continue?
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>>   andi
>>
>> btw: i would really like to support this task of separating the  
>> framework from the rest, as soon as we've finally decided to use  
>> ofbiz for the project to come (some other technical requirements  have
>> to be fulfilled before)
>>
>> David E. Jones schrieb:
>>
>>> This is something I'd like to do, or see done, and over the first  
>>> few  months of this year a fair amount of progress was made on  this
>>> but as  thing get more busy it is simply not something I can  afford
>>> to work on.
>>> The things that need to be done (if anyone is interested in  
>>> helping...) are mostly centered around testing the framework  part,  
>>> which is basically everything in OFBiz exempt the  "applications"  
>>> directory. We have isolated a lot of stuff, but I  suspect there is  
>>> still more.
>>> That is mostly it for the technical part, but there is also a lot  
>>> to  do (probably various weeks of work) in putting together  
>>> marketing  materials and training materials and such. We will  
>>> probably split the  ofbiz.org site into 2 sections with one  focused
>>> on the framework and  another focused on the applications  (or the
>>> business level/side more  generally).
>>> For training materials and documentation there is also quite a bit  
>>> of  work to do that I think _must_ be done or the marketing effort  
>>> will  be a waste and we will alienate more potential users than  
>>> attract.  The highest priority here is some sort of a "technical  
>>> tour" that  goes over the architecture and tools in the framework  
>>> and shows how  they all fit together. This would be based on the  
>>> "example" component  and the artifact reference diagram in the  quick
>>> reference book. There  is a link to an image of this diagram  on the
>>> Undersun Store page for  the quick reference book at:
>>> http://www.undersunconsulting.com/ecommerce/control/product/ 
>>> ~category_id=USC_PROMO/~product_id=RBPLATFORM
>>> I'd also like to see other documentation written to cover things  
>>> like  containers, components, and the various widgets all in the  
>>> same style  as the current Entity Engine Guide, Service Engine  
>>> Guide, and various  others on the current Docs & Books page.
>>> -David
>>> On Nov 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Sykes wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Just a quick enquiry about the idea of separating the framework/  
>>>> webtools
>>>> and distributing as a separate release, I've been asked whether  
>>>> this is
>>>> still on the agenda and as I don't know I thought you could  
>>>> perhaps  give
>>>> a quick update.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sykes Development Ltd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Users mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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[krishna383]

Hi All,
I am new to ofbiz. I have just setup ofbiz. I am trying to use the external application to use ofbiz via SOAP. I got the below exception
AxisFault
faultCode: {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Server.userException
faultSubcode:
faultString: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException

Then i came to know about the SSL Certificate Setup from http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-SSLCertificateSetup

It asks me to generate the CSR and submit it to any signing authority.
But the problem in my case is the enviroment in which i am trying to use is testing environment and so I dont have any domain nem like www.domainname.com(as in the example). Can you please tell me how can i generate the certificate to test in the intranet with out domain name?(I usually use http://machinename:8443/ to access)

[rajsaini]

You can use a self signed certificate that means you can act as your own
CA. I am not sure, how it will be done in your environment, but you can
search for "Self signed certificate" on Google.

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=self+signed+certificate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

Thanks,

Raj

krishna_ani wrote:

> Hi All,
> I am new to ofbiz. I have just setup ofbiz. I am trying to use the external
> application to use ofbiz via SOAP. I got the below exception
> AxisFault
> faultCode: {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envuelope/}Server.userException
> faultSubcode:
> faultString: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException
>
> Then i came to know about the SSL Certificate Setup from
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-SSLCertificateSetup
>
> It asks me to generate the CSR and submit it to any signing authority.
> But the problem in my case is the enviroment in which i am trying to use is
> testing environment and so I dont have any domain nem like
> www.domainname.com(as in the example). Can you please tell me how can i
> generate the certificate to test in the intranet with out domain name?(I
> usually use http://machinename:8443/ to access)
>
>