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what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving over there the videos that are now here? http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help anyway ! Having it on the youtube channer will: 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov download 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application screencasts -Bruno |
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Yes sounds like a good viral idea
Jacques From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> > Hi, > what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving over > there the videos that are now here? http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html > > At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help anyway > ! > Having it on the youtube channer will: > 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov download > 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site > 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application > screencasts > > -Bruno > |
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The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list.
I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit the page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? -Bruno 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > Yes sounds like a good viral idea > > Jacques > > From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> > > Hi, >> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving over >> there the videos that are now here? >> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >> >> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >> anyway >> ! >> Having it on the youtube channer will: >> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov download >> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >> screencasts >> >> -Bruno >> >> |
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Of course even all the video that are here:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams should be added to the channel. 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> > The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. > I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more > suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit the > page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). > > If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? > > -Bruno > > 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > > Yes sounds like a good viral idea >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >> >> Hi, >>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving >>> over >>> there the videos that are now here? >>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>> >>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >>> anyway >>> ! >>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>> download >>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>> screencasts >>> >>> -Bruno >>> >>> > |
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I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while back, but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much that the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant viewing experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. -David Bruno Busco wrote: > Of course even all the video that are here: > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams > should be added to the channel. > > 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> > >> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more >> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit the >> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >> >> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >> >> -Bruno >> >> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> >> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving >>>> over >>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>> >>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >>>> anyway >>>> ! >>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>> download >>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>> screencasts >>>> >>>> -Bruno >>>> >>>> > |
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Even now when HD-format is possible?
2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> > > I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while back, > but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much that > the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. > > The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant viewing > experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and > wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. > > -David > > > > Bruno Busco wrote: > >> Of course even all the video that are here: >> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >> should be added to the channel. >> >> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >> >> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more >>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit the >>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>> >>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>> >>> -Bruno >>> >>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>> >>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving >>>>> over >>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>> >>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >>>>> anyway >>>>> ! >>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>> download >>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>>> screencasts >>>>> >>>>> -Bruno >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> |
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Bruno, streaming it does seem like a reasonable idea.
Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 ----- "Sven Wesley" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Even now when HD-format is possible? > > 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> > > > > > I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a > while back, > > but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO > much that > > the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. > > > > The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant > viewing > > experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 > and > > wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. > > > > -David > > > > > > > > Bruno Busco wrote: > > > >> Of course even all the video that are here: > >> > >> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams > >> should be added to the channel. > >> > >> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> > >> > >> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action > list. > >>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even > more > >>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to > edit the > >>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). > >>> > >>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? > >>> > >>> -Bruno > >>> > >>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >>> > >>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea > >>> > >>>> Jacques > >>>> > >>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and > moving > >>>>> over > >>>>> there the videos that are now here? > >>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html > >>>>> > >>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could > help > >>>>> anyway > >>>>> ! > >>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: > >>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a > .mov > >>>>> download > >>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web > site > >>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own > application > >>>>> screencasts > >>>>> > >>>>> -Bruno > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> |
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I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest resolution possible is 480x360. Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for the conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It would be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is you'd have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and such. On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" ofbiz related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can I suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. -David On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > Even now when HD-format is possible? > > 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> > >> >> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a >> while back, >> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO >> much that >> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >> >> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >> viewing >> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 >> and >> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >> >> -David >> >> >> >> Bruno Busco wrote: >> >>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>> >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>> should be added to the channel. >>> >>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>> >>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is >>>> even more >>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to >>>> edit the >>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>> >>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>> >>>> -Bruno >>>> >>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and >>>>>> moving >>>>>> over >>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could >>>>>> help >>>>>> anyway >>>>>> ! >>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>>> download >>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web >>>>>> site >>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own >>>>>> application >>>>>> screencasts >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> |
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I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can
see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will remove it. Just let me know. -Bruno 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest > resolution possible is 480x360. > > Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for the > conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It would > be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is you'd > have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and > such. > > On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" ofbiz > related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF > infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things > change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can > certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can I > suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. > > -David > > > > On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > > Even now when HD-format is possible? >> >> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >> >> >>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while >>> back, >>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much >>> that >>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>> >>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>> viewing >>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and >>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> >>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>> >>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>> should be added to the channel. >>>> >>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>>> >>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more >>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit >>>>> the >>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>> >>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>> >>>>> -Bruno >>>>> >>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving >>>>>>> over >>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>> ! >>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>>>> download >>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> > |
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I think it's working rather well.
2008/11/24 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> > I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can > see here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > > these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. > The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > > I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > > Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > remove it. > Just let me know. > -Bruno > > 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > > > > I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest > > resolution possible is 480x360. > > > > Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for > the > > conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It > would > > be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is > you'd > > have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and > > such. > > > > On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" > ofbiz > > related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF > > infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things > > change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can > > certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can > I > > suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. > > > > -David > > > > > > > > On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > > > > Even now when HD-format is possible? > >> > >> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> > >> > >> > >>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while > >>> back, > >>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much > >>> that > >>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. > >>> > >>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant > >>> viewing > >>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and > >>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. > >>> > >>> -David > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Bruno Busco wrote: > >>> > >>> Of course even all the video that are here: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams > >>>> should be added to the channel. > >>>> > >>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> > >>>> > >>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. > >>>> > >>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even > more > >>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit > >>>>> the > >>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). > >>>>> > >>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Bruno > >>>>> > >>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and > moving > >>>>>>> over > >>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? > >>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could > help > >>>>>>> anyway > >>>>>>> ! > >>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: > >>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov > >>>>>>> download > >>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site > >>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application > >>>>>>> screencasts > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Bruno > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > > > |
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Sorry Bruno,
But I'm afraid, as David already outlined, that it can't be read, even in full screen and max resolution Jacques From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can > see here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > > these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. > The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > > I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > > Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > remove it. > Just let me know. > -Bruno > > 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > >> >> I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest >> resolution possible is 480x360. >> >> Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for the >> conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It would >> be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is you'd >> have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and >> such. >> >> On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" ofbiz >> related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF >> infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things >> change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can >> certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can I >> suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. >> >> -David >> >> >> >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: >> >> Even now when HD-format is possible? >>> >>> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >>> >>> >>>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while >>>> back, >>>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much >>>> that >>>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>>> >>>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>>> viewing >>>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and >>>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>>> should be added to the channel. >>>>> >>>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>>>> >>>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even more >>>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit >>>>>> the >>>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>>> >>>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and moving >>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could help >>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>> ! >>>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >> > |
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I'd like to hear what others think of these. Even with the "HD" (or whatever it's called) version it's really difficult to read the text. I guess I don't understand the reason for putting them on YouTube... and why that reason is better than being able to read the text and such. Could someone throw me a line? -David On Nov 24, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Bruno Busco wrote: > I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that > you can > see here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > > these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on > youtube. > The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > > I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > > Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > remove it. > Just let me know. > -Bruno > > 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > >> >> I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest >> resolution possible is 480x360. >> >> Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay >> for the >> conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. >> It would >> be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess >> is you'd >> have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the >> cursor and >> such. >> >> On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an >> "official" ofbiz >> related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF >> infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if >> things >> change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we >> can >> certainly put conference videos and related things up there... >> anyone can I >> suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. >> >> -David >> >> >> >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: >> >> Even now when HD-format is possible? >>> >>> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >>> >>> >>>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a >>>> while >>>> back, >>>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO >>>> much >>>> that >>>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>>> >>>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>>> viewing >>>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at >>>> 1024x768 and >>>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>>> should be added to the channel. >>>>> >>>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is >>>>>> even more >>>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities >>>>>> to edit >>>>>> the >>>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>>> >>>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and >>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they >>>>>>>> could help >>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>> ! >>>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through >>>>>>>> a .mov >>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web >>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own >>>>>>>> application >>>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >> |
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These are some of my lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqFwCk0C5fo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYIIuJtEklk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNI0BukgENY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7LDCeFfyvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbJEOCOzFqw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkRPmRUeXs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zON-LTwWcF4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fno1zUQOETU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fno1zUQOETU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7eb-KqVdsc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnuNojzZtY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnotFaDczz4 -Bruno 2008/11/25 David E Jones <[hidden email]> > > I'd like to hear what others think of these. Even with the "HD" (or > whatever it's called) version it's really difficult to read the text. > > I guess I don't understand the reason for putting them on YouTube... and > why that reason is better than being able to read the text and such. Could > someone throw me a line? > > -David > > > > On Nov 24, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Bruno Busco wrote: > > I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can >> see here: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 >> >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". >> >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz >> >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will >> remove it. >> Just let me know. >> -Bruno >> >> 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> >> >> >>> I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest >>> resolution possible is 480x360. >>> >>> Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for >>> the >>> conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It >>> would >>> be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is >>> you'd >>> have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and >>> such. >>> >>> On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" >>> ofbiz >>> related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF >>> infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things >>> change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can >>> certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can >>> I >>> suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: >>> >>> Even now when HD-format is possible? >>> >>>> >>>> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> >>>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while >>>>> back, >>>>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much >>>>> that >>>>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>>>> >>>>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>>>> viewing >>>>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and >>>>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>>>> should be added to the channel. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and >>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>>> ! >>>>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > |
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I think it's a good idea to have a easy found place for all videos. I also
like (really like) the idea with a format that works on all platforms without having to install more than a normal browser environment. I have systems where I have Flash, but not Quicktime nor a AVI-player. But if the resolution is too bad it may be a drawback. 2008/11/24 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > Sorry Bruno, > > But I'm afraid, as David already outlined, that it can't be read, even in > full screen and max resolution > > > Jacques > > From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> > >> I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can >> see here: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 >> >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". >> >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz >> >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will >> remove it. >> Just let me know. >> -Bruno >> >> 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> >> >> >>> I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest >>> resolution possible is 480x360. >>> >>> Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay for >>> the >>> conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. It >>> would >>> be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess is >>> you'd >>> have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the cursor and >>> such. >>> >>> On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an "official" >>> ofbiz >>> related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF >>> infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if things >>> change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we can >>> certainly put conference videos and related things up there... anyone can >>> I >>> suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: >>> >>> Even now when HD-format is possible? >>> >>>> >>>> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> >>>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while >>>>> back, >>>>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO much >>>>> that >>>>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>>>> >>>>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>>>> viewing >>>>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at 1024x768 and >>>>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>>>> should be added to the channel. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is even >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities to edit >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and >>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they could >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>>> ! >>>>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through a .mov >>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web site >>>>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own application >>>>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> |
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I may be wrong but I guess it's the social aspect which is researched.
It's like old links farms but for "Web 2.0", it give better page ranks and such. As it's a manual process, Google is less touchy about that. Jacques From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> > > I'd like to hear what others think of these. Even with the "HD" (or > whatever it's called) version it's really difficult to read the text. > > I guess I don't understand the reason for putting them on YouTube... > and why that reason is better than being able to read the text and > such. Could someone throw me a line? > > -David > > > On Nov 24, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Bruno Busco wrote: > >> I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that >> you can >> see here: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 >> >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on >> youtube. >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". >> >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz >> >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will >> remove it. >> Just let me know. >> -Bruno >> >> 2008/11/24 David E Jones <[hidden email]> >> >>> >>> I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest >>> resolution possible is 480x360. >>> >>> Is there any way to do more than that? That would probably be okay >>> for the >>> conference videos, but still not so much for the training videos. >>> It would >>> be interesting to try viewing them at that resolution, but my guess >>> is you'd >>> have a hard time reading the text on the screen and seeing the >>> cursor and >>> such. >>> >>> On a side note, I don't think we can/should really have an >>> "official" ofbiz >>> related channel or anything on youtube as it is not official ASF >>> infrastructure (and so one person would have the account, and if >>> things >>> change in the PMC that has to be moved around, etc, etc). Still, we >>> can >>> certainly put conference videos and related things up there... >>> anyone can I >>> suppose... and at least have an "ofbiz" tag on them or whatever. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: >>> >>> Even now when HD-format is possible? >>>> >>>> 2008/11/24 David E. Jones <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a >>>>> while >>>>> back, >>>>> but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO >>>>> much >>>>> that >>>>> the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful. >>>>> >>>>> The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant >>>>> viewing >>>>> experience), but the framework intro ones are recorded at >>>>> 1024x768 and >>>>> wouldn't be too helpful at a lower resolution. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Of course even all the video that are here: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams >>>>>> should be added to the channel. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/11/23 Bruno Busco <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> The videos on youtube are already on David's marketing action >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have looked into it and found that the youtube "channel" is >>>>>>> even more >>>>>>> suitable compared to single videos (offers some possibilities >>>>>>> to edit >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> page in which the videos, group them toghether and some other). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we are OK, should someone create the account and channel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/11/23 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes sounds like a good viral idea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what do you think about creating the OFBiz youtube channel and >>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> there the videos that are now here? >>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/VideosConf.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the moment they are not so attractive but I think they >>>>>>>>> could help >>>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>>> ! >>>>>>>>> Having it on the youtube channer will: >>>>>>>>> 1) let the video being server in streaming and not through >>>>>>>>> a .mov >>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>> 2) let us tag the videos and put a link back to the OFBiz web >>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>> 3) (hopefully) trigger developer to provide OOTB or own >>>>>>>>> application >>>>>>>>> screencasts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > |
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We could always add a subtitle, to run for 10 seconds or through out, or
even just an intro screen to the video that points to the high real resolution versions available on the site. Doesn't seem any harm from them being on youtube and it'll still be clear people can get higher quality if desired. Ray Bruno Busco wrote: > I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can > see here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > > these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. > The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > > I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > > Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > remove it. > Just let me know. > -Bruno |
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Good idea !
Jacques From: "Ray" <[hidden email]> > We could always add a subtitle, to run for 10 seconds or through out, or > even just an intro screen to the video that points to the high real > resolution versions available on the site. > > Doesn't seem any harm from them being on youtube and it'll still be > clear people can get higher quality if desired. > > Ray > > > Bruno Busco wrote: >> I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can >> see here: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 >> >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". >> >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz >> >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will >> remove it. >> Just let me know. >> -Bruno > |
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On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 13:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Good idea ! > > Jacques > - Yes! Bilgin > From: "Ray" <[hidden email]> > > We could always add a subtitle, to run for 10 seconds or through out, or > > even just an intro screen to the video that points to the high real > > resolution versions available on the site. > > > > Doesn't seem any harm from them being on youtube and it'll still be > > clear people can get higher quality if desired. > > > > Ray > > > > > > Bruno Busco wrote: > >> I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you can > >> see here: > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > >> > >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on youtube. > >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > >> > >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > >> > >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > >> remove it. > >> Just let me know. > >> -Bruno > > |
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DONE ! ;-)
2008/11/25 Bilgin Ibryam <[hidden email]> > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 13:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > > Good idea ! > > > > Jacques > > > > - Yes! > > Bilgin > > > From: "Ray" <[hidden email]> > > > We could always add a subtitle, to run for 10 seconds or through out, > or > > > even just an intro screen to the video that points to the high real > > > resolution versions available on the site. > > > > > > Doesn't seem any harm from them being on youtube and it'll still be > > > clear people can get higher quality if desired. > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > Bruno Busco wrote: > > >> I did some experiments uploading some of the training videos that you > can > > >> see here: > > >> > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrbmJesLp4&fmt=18 > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDufjjlF5G0&fmt=18 > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSHdgsSymE&ftm=18 > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EK3kadkzS4&fmt=18 > > >> > > >> these are the only shorter than 10 mins that can be uploaded on > youtube. > > >> The "&fmt=18" suffix is used to watch the video in "high resolution". > > >> > > >> I put some tags on that and also grouped into a channel: > > >> http://www.youtube.com/ofbiz > > >> > > >> Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will > > >> remove it. > > >> Just let me know. > > >> -Bruno > > > > > |
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