Press Release for Release Branch 9.3

[David E. Jones]

I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our  
upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned  
on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.

To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for  
it here:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3

Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some  
brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)  
or respond to this message with other thoughts.

I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and  
guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,  
so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably  
the most important part of what we as a community put into this.

Thanks!

-David

[David E Jones-3]

I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.  
Some reasons:

1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release

2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy  
of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the  
link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were  
closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for  
all of these to shake out)

3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework

4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and  
time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it

5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically  
effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps  
other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are  
a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance  
to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related  
to the release branch!)

6. other things?

In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to  
have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that  
the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in  
other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the  
focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.  
Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for  
the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the  
trunk before the branch will help things considerably.

We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the  
actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the  
sake of coordination.

Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right  
now! ;)

-David


On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had  
> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>
> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
> for it here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>
> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some  
> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)  
> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>
> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and  
> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press  
> release, so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are  
> probably the most important part of what we as a community put into  
> this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -David
>
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-4]

I agree,

hopefully this will give me the time to commit the code that Guo  
Weizhan is working on in OFBIZ-1235.

Jacopo

On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:19 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of  
> weeks. Some reasons:
>
> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>
> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security  
> policy of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL,  
> ie the link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we  
> were closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time  
> for all of these to shake out)
>
> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>
> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and  
> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback  
> on it
>
> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically  
> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and  
> perhaps other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie:  
> if you are a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this  
> is your chance to fancy up your web site and other things before the  
> PR push related to the release branch!)
>
> 6. other things?
>
> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to  
> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true  
> that the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary,  
> or in other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal  
> as the focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new  
> features. Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized  
> branch for the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know  
> are in the trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>
> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until  
> the actual date to release, so this is all about communication for  
> the sake of coordination.
>
> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right  
> now! ;)
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had  
>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
>> for it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some  
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a  
>> committer) or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help  
>> and guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press  
>> release, so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are  
>> probably the most important part of what we as a community put into  
>> this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>

[Adrian Crum]

I agree also.

I still need to finish the security UI move -
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1868.

I've been working on it a little each weekend. Progress was slow at
first because of all the massive changes to the trunk during the last
few months, but things seem to have settled down now, so I should be
able to get it finished soon.

-Adrian

Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> I agree,
>
> hopefully this will give me the time to commit the code that Guo Weizhan
> is working on in OFBIZ-1235.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:19 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
>> Some reasons:
>>
>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>
>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the
>> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were
>> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for
>> all of these to shake out)
>>
>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>
>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>>
>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are
>> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance
>> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related
>> to the release branch!)
>>
>> 6. other things?
>>
>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for
>> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the
>> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>>
>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the
>> sake of coordination.
>>
>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>> now! ;)
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
>>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had
>>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>
>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
>>> for it here:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3 
>>>
>>>
>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[BJ Freeman]

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someone set up a jiras list for the release.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
those jiras that need to be completed.
How about creating jiras for all these
then someone can be pointed to it as things they can do to help.


David E Jones sent the following on 3/26/2009 9:19 AM:

>
> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
> Some reasons:
>
> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>
> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the link
> to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were closer
> than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for all of
> these to shake out)
>
> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>
> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>
> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are a
> service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance to
> fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related to
> the release branch!)
>
> 6. other things?
>
> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for the
> next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the trunk
> before the branch will help things considerably.
>
> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the sake
> of coordination.
>
> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
> now! ;)
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
>> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for
>> it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>
>
>

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[Shi Yusen]

Personally, I would prefer keeping 9.3 rather than 9.4 for the version
number. 9.4 is a very bad number in Chinese. :) Or 9.5?

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-03-25三的 16:32 -0600，David E Jones写道：

> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our  
> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned  
> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>
> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for  
> it here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>
> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some  
> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)  
> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>
> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and  
> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,  
> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably  
> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -David
>
>

[David E Jones-3]

While not superstitious I do find numerology to be interesting...  
Could you explain some of the background behind 9.4?

Thanks,
-David


On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Shi Yusen wrote:

> Personally, I would prefer keeping 9.3 rather than 9.4 for the version
> number. 9.4 is a very bad number in Chinese. :) Or 9.5?
>
> Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
>
>
> 在 2009-03-25三的 16:32 -0600，David E Jones写道：
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
>> our
>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
>> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
>> for
>> it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>

[David E Jones-3]

This is a good tool to use. Just one small point of clarification: the  
decision on when to release will have nothing to do with what is in  
Jira. Because there is no top-down management of OFBiz, and we have  
not decided to take on the burden of the practice of voting about  
which features will go into a release, we can't really allow anyone  
who can create a Jira issue delay the release, or it would likely  
NEVER be released.

As I've said many times, the functionality of the release is somewhat  
arbitrary. A lot more has happened in the last 2 years than we can  
possibly do in the space of a few weeks, and the 2 years is the point  
of the new release branch, not the 2 weeks. In general the priority in  
a release branch is stability, and not new features. In fact, the  
whole idea is to support users who want to sacrifice new features for  
the sake of stability.

On the other hand, we don't want to leave too much hanging just before  
a release branch... mostly for our own sake because it means we'll  
have double the work back-porting all of the fixes that we already  
know will have to go into the trunk back to the release branch (mostly  
major fixes requiring refactoring and such).

-David


On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:23 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

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>
> someone set up a jiras list for the release.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
> those jiras that need to be completed.
> How about creating jiras for all these
> then someone can be pointed to it as things they can do to help.
>
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 3/26/2009 9:19 AM:
>>
>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of  
>> weeks.
>> Some reasons:
>>
>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>
>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security  
>> policy
>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the  
>> link
>> to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were closer
>> than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for all of
>> these to shake out)
>>
>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>
>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback  
>> on it
>>
>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and  
>> perhaps
>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you  
>> are a
>> service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your  
>> chance to
>> fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related to
>> the release branch!)
>>
>> 6. other things?
>>
>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true  
>> that
>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for  
>> the
>> next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the trunk
>> before the branch will help things considerably.
>>
>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the  
>> sake
>> of coordination.
>>
>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>> now! ;)
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
>>> our
>>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
>>> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>
>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
>>> for
>>> it here:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>>
>>>
>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press  
>>> release,
>>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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[BJ Freeman]

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I agree with you, I had assumed that a filter could be used that did not
include certian new feature so the list would only have those things
that have been agreed on like here in the ml.
maybe that is beyond the ability of the Jira and should be listed
somewhere else.

David E Jones sent the following on 3/26/2009 11:06 AM:

>
> This is a good tool to use. Just one small point of clarification: the
> decision on when to release will have nothing to do with what is in
> Jira. Because there is no top-down management of OFBiz, and we have not
> decided to take on the burden of the practice of voting about which
> features will go into a release, we can't really allow anyone who can
> create a Jira issue delay the release, or it would likely NEVER be
> released.
>
> As I've said many times, the functionality of the release is somewhat
> arbitrary. A lot more has happened in the last 2 years than we can
> possibly do in the space of a few weeks, and the 2 years is the point of
> the new release branch, not the 2 weeks. In general the priority in a
> release branch is stability, and not new features. In fact, the whole
> idea is to support users who want to sacrifice new features for the sake
> of stability.
>
> On the other hand, we don't want to leave too much hanging just before a
> release branch... mostly for our own sake because it means we'll have
> double the work back-porting all of the fixes that we already know will
> have to go into the trunk back to the release branch (mostly major fixes
> requiring refactoring and such).
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:23 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
> someone set up a jiras list for the release.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
> those jiras that need to be completed.
> How about creating jiras for all these
> then someone can be pointed to it as things they can do to help.
>
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 3/26/2009 9:19 AM:
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
>>>> Some reasons:
>>>>
>>>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>>>
>>>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
>>>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the link
>>>> to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were closer
>>>> than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for all of
>>>> these to shake out)
>>>>
>>>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>>>
>>>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>>>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>>>>
>>>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>>>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
>>>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are a
>>>> service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance to
>>>> fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related to
>>>> the release branch!)
>>>>
>>>> 6. other things?
>>>>
>>>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>>>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
>>>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>>>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>>>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>>>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for the
>>>> next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the trunk
>>>> before the branch will help things considerably.
>>>>
>>>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>>>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the sake
>>>> of coordination.
>>>>
>>>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>>>> now! ;)
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
>>>>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
>>>>> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for
>>>>> it here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>>>>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>>>>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[Shi Yusen]

Just for fun:
symbol            pronounce meaning
9                  immediately,now
.                      click
4                       die
9.4               now click and die

HAHA

Anyway, happy the great release is coming.

Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.


在 2009-03-26四的 11:37 -0600，David E Jones写道：

> While not superstitious I do find numerology to be interesting...  
> Could you explain some of the background behind 9.4?
>
> Thanks,
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Shi Yusen wrote:
>
> > Personally, I would prefer keeping 9.3 rather than 9.4 for the version
> > number. 9.4 is a very bad number in Chinese. :) Or 9.5?
> >
> > Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> >
> >
> > 在 2009-03-25三的 16:32 -0600，David E Jones写道：
> >> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
> >> our
> >> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
> >> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
> >>
> >> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
> >> for
> >> it here:
> >>
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
> >>
> >> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
> >> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
> >> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
> >>
> >> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
> >> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
> >> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
> >> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >
>

[Adam Heath-2]

David E Jones wrote:

>
> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned on
> doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>
> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for
> it here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>
> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer) or
> respond to this message with other thoughts.
>
> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release, so
> our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably the
> most important part of what we as a community put into this.

Dare I ask, why 9.3?

[Erwan de FERRIERES-3]

Adam Heath a écrit :

> David E Jones wrote:
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned on
>> doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for
>> it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer) or
>> respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release, so
>> our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably the
>> most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>
> Dare I ask, why 9.3?

2009 and 3rd month of the year. So we can't wait after the 31/03 !
>

--
- Erwan -

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Adam Heath" <[hidden email]>

> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned on
>> doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for
>> it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer) or
>> respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release, so
>> our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably the
>> most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>
> Dare I ask, why 9.3?

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan#ReleasePlan-GeneralReleasePolicies

Jacques

[Jacques Le Roux]

I plenty agree too

I'm just sorry to say to Adrian that I will soon begin to make a lot of changes
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2243

Jacques

From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>

>I agree also.
>
> I still need to finish the security UI move -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1868.
>
> I've been working on it a little each weekend. Progress was slow at
> first because of all the massive changes to the trunk during the last
> few months, but things seem to have settled down now, so I should be
> able to get it finished soon.
>
> -Adrian
>
> Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> I agree,
>>
>> hopefully this will give me the time to commit the code that Guo Weizhan
>> is working on in OFBIZ-1235.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:19 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
>>> Some reasons:
>>>
>>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>>
>>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
>>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the
>>> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were
>>> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for
>>> all of these to shake out)
>>>
>>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>>
>>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>>>
>>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
>>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are
>>> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance
>>> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related
>>> to the release branch!)
>>>
>>> 6. other things?
>>>
>>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
>>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for
>>> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the
>>> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>>>
>>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the
>>> sake of coordination.
>>>
>>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>>> now! ;)
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
>>>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had
>>>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>>
>>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
>>>> for it here:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>>>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>>>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[hans_bakker]

Hi David,

this sounds fine...thanks for taking the lead in this, excellent!

I do not quite understand what idea you have moving the myportal into
the framework because it think most of it is already there?

regards
Hans

On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:19 -0600, David E Jones wrote:

> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.  
> Some reasons:
>
> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>
> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy  
> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the  
> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were  
> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for  
> all of these to shake out)
>
> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>
> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and  
> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>
> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically  
> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps  
> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are  
> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance  
> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related  
> to the release branch!)
>
> 6. other things?
>
> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to  
> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that  
> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in  
> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the  
> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.  
> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for  
> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the  
> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>
> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the  
> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the  
> sake of coordination.
>
> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right  
> now! ;)
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> >
> > I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for  
> > our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had  
> > planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
> >
> > To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page  
> > for it here:
> >
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
> >
> > Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some  
> > brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)  
> > or respond to this message with other thoughts.
> >
> > I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and  
> > guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press  
> > release, so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are  
> > probably the most important part of what we as a community put into  
> > this.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
>

--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates

[guo weizhan]

Jacopo,

I don't konw you will commit OFBIZ-1235 to this branch until I read this
list. I think I should get more time to do this and try my best to finish
this in this weekend, then you have enough time to review the code.




2009/3/27 Jacopo Cappellato <[hidden email]>

> I agree,
>
> hopefully this will give me the time to commit the code that Guo Weizhan is
> working on in OFBIZ-1235.
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:19 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>
>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
>> Some reasons:
>>
>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>
>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy of
>> no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the link to form
>> conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were closer than we are,
>> and I'm guessing it will take a little time for all of these to shake out)
>>
>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>
>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and time
>> for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>>
>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically effort
>> going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps other
>> marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are a service
>> or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance to fancy up
>> your web site and other things before the PR push related to the release
>> branch!)
>>
>> 6. other things?
>>
>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to have
>> happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that the cutoff
>> date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in other words that
>> features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the focus for the release
>> branch is stabilization and not new features. Still, this release branch
>> should be the main stabilized branch for the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so
>> fixing issues we know are in the trunk before the branch will help things
>> considerably.
>>
>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the sake of
>> coordination.
>>
>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right now!
>> ;)
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for our
>>> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned on
>>> doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>
>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page for it
>>> here:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>>
>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer) or
>>> respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release, so our
>>> brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably the most
>>> important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[David E Jones-3]

I apologize, I thought we had discussed this and based on replies that  
there was a general understanding of what the point of a portal  
component in the framework would be.

The general idea is to have a webapp that is part of the framework  
that any user can go to and see a "home" screen sort of thing that is  
appropriate for their role(s). In other words we would have a number  
of portal pages pre-configured for different roles, and permissions to  
determine ability to access each. If a user has a permission then the  
portal page is available to them, and there could more than one portal  
page.

One of the nice things about the "portal" idea is that we can have a  
large library of "portlets", which would just be thinly wrapped  
screens and shouldn't be too hard to build (not automatic, but not  
tons of work either). With these in place a user can customize the  
OOTB portal pages or maybe even create their own.

Anyway, this OOTB application would be a generic place to see the  
portal pages available and such. The reason to have it in the  
framework is to have it be a fundamental part of the project that  
other components can build on, mostly by configuring portal pages and  
pointing to portlets made available in that component or others in  
depends on.

In short this enables an alternate, and easily configurable, UI.

-David


On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> this sounds fine...thanks for taking the lead in this, excellent!
>
> I do not quite understand what idea you have moving the myportal into
> the framework because it think most of it is already there?
>
> regards
> Hans
>
> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:19 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of  
>> weeks.
>> Some reasons:
>>
>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>
>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security  
>> policy
>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the
>> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were
>> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for
>> all of these to shake out)
>>
>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>
>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback  
>> on it
>>
>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and  
>> perhaps
>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you  
>> are
>> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your  
>> chance
>> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related
>> to the release branch!)
>>
>> 6. other things?
>>
>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true  
>> that
>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for
>> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the
>> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>>
>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the
>> sake of coordination.
>>
>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>> now! ;)
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
>>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had
>>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>
>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
>>> for it here:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>>
>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press
>>> release, so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are
>>> probably the most important part of what we as a community put into
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>

[guo weizhan]

David,

I’m very exciting about the new features and counting days for this release,
thanks for your effort.


2009/3/27 David E Jones <[hidden email]>

>
> I apologize, I thought we had discussed this and based on replies that
> there was a general understanding of what the point of a portal component in
> the framework would be.
>
> The general idea is to have a webapp that is part of the framework that any
> user can go to and see a "home" screen sort of thing that is appropriate for
> their role(s). In other words we would have a number of portal pages
> pre-configured for different roles, and permissions to determine ability to
> access each. If a user has a permission then the portal page is available to
> them, and there could more than one portal page.
>
> One of the nice things about the "portal" idea is that we can have a large
> library of "portlets", which would just be thinly wrapped screens and
> shouldn't be too hard to build (not automatic, but not tons of work either).
> With these in place a user can customize the OOTB portal pages or maybe even
> create their own.
>
> Anyway, this OOTB application would be a generic place to see the portal
> pages available and such. The reason to have it in the framework is to have
> it be a fundamental part of the project that other components can build on,
> mostly by configuring portal pages and pointing to portlets made available
> in that component or others in depends on.
>
> In short this enables an alternate, and easily configurable, UI.
>
> -David
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>>
>> this sounds fine...thanks for taking the lead in this, excellent!
>>
>> I do not quite understand what idea you have moving the myportal into
>> the framework because it think most of it is already there?
>>
>> regards
>> Hans
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:19 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
>>> Some reasons:
>>>
>>> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>>>
>>> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
>>> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the
>>> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were
>>> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for
>>> all of these to shake out)
>>>
>>> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>>>
>>> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
>>> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>>>
>>> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
>>> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
>>> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are
>>> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance
>>> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related
>>> to the release branch!)
>>>
>>> 6. other things?
>>>
>>> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
>>> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
>>> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
>>> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
>>> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
>>> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for
>>> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the
>>> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>>>
>>> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
>>> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the
>>> sake of coordination.
>>>
>>> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
>>> now! ;)
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
>>>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had
>>>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>>>
>>>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
>>>> for it here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
>>>>
>>>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>>>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>>>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>>>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press
>>>> release, so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are
>>>> probably the most important part of what we as a community put into
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>
>>
>

[guo weizhan]

hoho,  May be we will get branch 9.4 as delaying

2009/3/27 Shi Yusen <[hidden email]>

> Just for fun:
> symbol            pronounce meaning
> 9                  immediately,now
> .                      click
> 4                       die
> 9.4               now click and die
>
> HAHA
>
> Anyway, happy the great release is coming.
>
> Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
>
>
> 在 2009-03-26四的 11:37 -0600，David E Jones写道：
>  > While not superstitious I do find numerology to be interesting...
> > Could you explain some of the background behind 9.4?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Shi Yusen wrote:
> >
> > > Personally, I would prefer keeping 9.3 rather than 9.4 for the version
> > > number. 9.4 is a very bad number in Chinese. :) Or 9.5?
> > >
> > > Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> > >
> > >
> > > 在 2009-03-25三的 16:32 -0600，David E Jones写道：
> > >> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
> > >> our
> > >> upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had planned
> > >> on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
> > >>
> > >> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
> > >> for
> > >> it here:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3
> > >>
> > >> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
> > >> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
> > >> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
> > >>
> > >> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
> > >> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
> > >> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
> > >> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> -David
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

[Ashish Vijaywargiya-5]

+1

--
Ashish Vijaywargiya

David E Jones wrote:

>
> I'm thinking we should delay the release branch for a couple of weeks.
> Some reasons:
>
> 1. more opportunity to collaborate with the PRC on the press release
>
> 2. time to find and fix more issue relating to the new security policy
> of no fields submitted to service-backed events in the URL, ie the
> link to form conversion thingy that is underway (I thought we were
> closer than we are, and I'm guessing it will take a little time for
> all of these to shake out)
>
> 3. time to get myportal generalized and moved to framework
>
> 4. time to get the new OFBiz home page and sub-content in place, and
> time for more people (outside of the PMC so far) to offer feedback on it
>
> 5. opportunity to compile a larger list of new features (basically
> effort going into expanding the "Main New Features" page), and perhaps
> other marketing related things in and outside of OFBiz (ie: if you are
> a service or derivative work or whatever provider, this is your chance
> to fancy up your web site and other things before the PR push related
> to the release branch!)
>
> 6. other things?
>
> In short, there are a few things up in the air that would be nice to
> have happen around the same time as the release branch. It's true that
> the cutoff date for the release branch is somewhat arbitrary, or in
> other words that features in the branch aren't as big a deal as the
> focus for the release branch is stabilization and not new features.
> Still, this release branch should be the main stabilized branch for
> the next 1-2 years for OFBiz, so fixing issues we know are in the
> trunk before the branch will help things considerably.
>
> We haven't voted on an official date or anything, and won't until the
> actual date to release, so this is all about communication for the
> sake of coordination.
>
> Comments more than welcome. In fact, I demand that you comment right
> now! ;)
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:32 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> I've started putting together some ideas for the press release for
>> our upcoming release branch. The time is a little tight... I had
>> planned on doing this last week but it got lost among other things.
>>
>> To facilitate collaboration on this I've created a confluence page
>> for it here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Press+Release+for+Release+Branch+9.3 
>>
>>
>> Before writing the actual press release I thought we should do some
>> brainstorming, so please add thoughts there (if you are a committer)
>> or respond to this message with other thoughts.
>>
>> I'm going to send a message to the ASF PRC to ask for their help and
>> guidance on this. It may be that they write the actual press release,
>> so our brainstorming thoughts and details we add there are probably
>> the most important part of what we as a community put into this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>