Production Run "Fail If Items Are Not Available" in "Materials Required By Running Task" section not working

[Christian Carlow-OFBizzer]

When the "Fail If Items Are Not Available" options are set to "No" and
the "Materials Required By The Running Task" form is submitted, the same
thing that happens when the value is set to "Yes" occurs. Is the "No"
option supposed to allow issuances to occur even if the materials do not
exist anywhere in inventory?  What is the purpose of that field?

[Christian Carlow-OFBizzer]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. The same error indicating that
there is insufficient material inventory that occurs for the "Yes
options also occurs for the "No" option.

On 03/07/2014 09:44 AM, Christian Carlow wrote:
> When the "Fail If Items Are Not Available" options are set to "No" and
> the "Materials Required By The Running Task" form is submitted, the
> same thing that happens when the value is set to "Yes" occurs. Is the
> "No" option supposed to allow issuances to occur even if the materials
> do not exist anywhere in inventory?  What is the purpose of that field?

[Jacopo Cappellato-4]

Hi Christian,

that part of the system definitely needs some love and I understand your confusion.
If I well remember the intended behavior is the following:

* if "Fail If Items Are Not Available" is set to Yes: the system will only issue materials that are not reserved by a sales order; i.e. in order to succeed you will need enough ATP
* if "Fail If Items Are Not Available" is set to No: the system will possibly "steal" reserved items, if needed; i.e. in order to succeed you will need at least enough QOH
* in both cases, if there is not enough QOH for the materials, the operation will fail

I hope it helps,

Jacopo

On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Christian Carlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Sorry, I should have been more clear. The same error indicating that there is insufficient material inventory that occurs for the "Yes options also occurs for the "No" option.
>
> On 03/07/2014 09:44 AM, Christian Carlow wrote:
>> When the "Fail If Items Are Not Available" options are set to "No" and the "Materials Required By The Running Task" form is submitted, the same thing that happens when the value is set to "Yes" occurs. Is the "No" option supposed to allow issuances to occur even if the materials do not exist anywhere in inventory?  What is the purpose of that field?
>

[Christian Carlow-OFBizzer]

Thanks Jacopo,

It definitely helps.  I thought its intended use was to issue
materials/components even if they didn't exist in inventory. Since
that's not the case I don't think its broken.

On 03/07/2014 11:04 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Hi Christian,
>
> that part of the system definitely needs some love and I understand your confusion.
> If I well remember the intended behavior is the following:
>
> * if "Fail If Items Are Not Available" is set to Yes: the system will only issue materials that are not reserved by a sales order; i.e. in order to succeed you will need enough ATP
> * if "Fail If Items Are Not Available" is set to No: the system will possibly "steal" reserved items, if needed; i.e. in order to succeed you will need at least enough QOH
> * in both cases, if there is not enough QOH for the materials, the operation will fail
>
> I hope it helps,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Christian Carlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I should have been more clear. The same error indicating that there is insufficient material inventory that occurs for the "Yes options also occurs for the "No" option.
>>
>> On 03/07/2014 09:44 AM, Christian Carlow wrote:
>>> When the "Fail If Items Are Not Available" options are set to "No" and the "Materials Required By The Running Task" form is submitted, the same thing that happens when the value is set to "Yes" occurs. Is the "No" option supposed to allow issuances to occur even if the materials do not exist anywhere in inventory?  What is the purpose of that field?

[Pierre Smits]

Christian,

Indeed, the 'No' option is to ensure that issuance does not fail when
criteria aren't met.

This functionality has been modified in the last year. Prior to the
modification you could have an inventory of 0 (or even negative) for the
component (in the facility where you do your manufacturing) needed in the
production run, so that you could still continue with the tasks in the
production run.

Which, in a way was making sense as following scenario will explain.
Suppose you have the components for the production in stock (physically),
but they haven't been registered due to staff shortage. You know that the
goods are intended for your production run and they are handed to you (as
the manufacturing manager) by the warehouse clerk.
So while you can physically manufacture the product with the components
that you have, you would like to complete the admin process as soon as
possible. And you would be able to. The only downside was that the
inventory of the component could go to negative.

With the modification this got more restrictive. Now you must have the
quantities of the components needed in your inventory before you can do an
issuance to a task in a production run. Not failing is not an option
anymore.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

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