Re: ApacheBookStore.com
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Rich,
Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a replacement for the wiki page? Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > >> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <[hidden email]>: >> >>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com? >>> >>> On the front page: >> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item >> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address >> >> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators" >> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action >> >> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and >> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008. >> > > Thanks. I totally missed those. > > Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites > that link to it. > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > > |
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And if not, at least show OFBiz books, if the ApacheBookStore gets updated
We have some in the learning section at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books#OFBizRelatedBooks-Learning As mentioned there, those sold by /Packt pay a percentage of the sales back to the ASF/ (I checked that some years ago) I tried to update the ApacheBookStore but I have no access with my Confluence credential Jacques Le 10/10/2014 12:07, Pierre Smits a écrit : > Rich, > > Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a > replacement for the wiki page? > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: >> >>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com? >>>> >>>> On the front page: >>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item >>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address >>> >>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators" >>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action >>> >>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and >>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008. >>> >> Thanks. I totally missed those. >> >> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites >> that link to it. >> >> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >> >> |
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Rich,
How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can handle that? That way no inventory would be required. With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop shipments. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > >> Rich, >> >> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a >> replacement for the wiki page? >> > > That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits > to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory? > > Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I > don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to try > to do, if someone wanted to take that project. > > --Rich > > > > Regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: >>> >>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com? >>>>> >>>>> On the front page: >>>>> >>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item >>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address >>>> >>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators" >>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action >>>> >>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and >>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008. >>>> >>>> Thanks. I totally missed those. >>> >>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites >>> that link to it. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>> >>> >>> > -- > Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > > |
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On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Rich, > > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can > handle that? That way no inventory would be required. > > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop > shipments. > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying taxes. rgds jan I. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > > >> Rich, > >> > >> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a > >> replacement for the wiki page? > >> > > > > That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits > > to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory? > > > > Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I > > don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to > try > > to do, if someone wanted to take that project. > > > > --Rich > > > > > > > > Regards, > >> > >> Pierre Smits > >> > >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- > >> Based Manufacturing, Professional > >> Services and Retail & Trade > >> http://www.orrtiz.com > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > >>> > >>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <[hidden email]>: > >>>> > >>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com? > >>>>> > >>>>> On the front page: > >>>>> > >>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item > >>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address > >>>> > >>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators" > >>>> -> > http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action > >>>> > >>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and > >>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. I totally missed those. > >>> > >>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites > >>> that link to it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen > >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > >>> > >>> > >>> > > -- > > Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen > > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > > > > > |
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Here is a blog about non-profits and "earned" income. It is certainly possible (and common). The two big things to look out for are:
- whether the goods sold are substantially related to the non-profit's purpose - and how much income is derived relative to other activities http://www.nonprofitlawblog.com/the-profitable-side-of-nonprofits-part-i-earned-income/ I know others who are more knowledgable can also comment. ~Roger Whitcomb Apache Pivot PMC > On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:27 AM, jan i <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Rich, >> >> How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can >> handle that? That way no inventory would be required. >> >> With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also >> promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment >> (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop >> shipments. > Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying > taxes. > > rgds > jan I. > > >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>> Rich, >>>> >>>> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a >>>> replacement for the wiki page? >>> >>> That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits >>> to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory? >>> >>> Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I >>> don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to >> try >>> to do, if someone wanted to take that project. >>> >>> --Rich >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the front page: >>>>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item >>>>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators" >>>>>> -> >> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action >>>>>> >>>>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and >>>>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I totally missed those. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites >>>>> that link to it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen >>>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>> -- >>> Rich Bowen - [hidden email] - @rbowen >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >> |
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Rich, > > > > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can > > handle that? That way no inventory would be required. > > > > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also > > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment > > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the > drop > > shipments. > > > Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying > taxes. > The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world). Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud companies). Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not sufficient. |
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True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the fiscal and social implications. But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the capabilities of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects (without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is today. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Dunning <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Rich, > > > > > > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they > can > > > handle that? That way no inventory would be required. > > > > > > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also > > > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the > payment > > > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the > > drop > > > shipments. > > > > > Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with > our > > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying > > taxes. > > > > > The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every > city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world). > > Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale > e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely > nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial > consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud > companies). > > Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not > sufficient. > |
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